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RE: Sex with slaves? - 1/7/2009 10:12:13 AM

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In my view, what makes a relationship better or worse --- is very elastic in nature. So, take your Alpha Male's views under advisement and then try to see what works best for you.

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RE: Sex with slaves? - 1/7/2009 10:15:01 AM

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He mentioned last night that if there was a male slave in the house, not only would it compromise my position as a Mistress to fuck him, but also to french kiss him. He says that would put a crack in the structure.

Perhaps, he just doesn't play well with others. Talk to him about why he feels that way. If you don't understand his reasoning, then I see nothing wrong with you wanting to understand better why he feels that way. Just be respectful in your inquiry. Personally I love to kiss my boy, we haven't started having sex yet, yet being the key term there. But we will. There are lots of Domly things you can do while sitting on someones face, ie... CBT.

I think your Master just doesn't want to share. He can let you train others, but the sex is something that he feels should be reserved for him and only him. That is something special between you two. Just like my boy has a collar that only he wears when he is here, no one else. It maintains that he was first in my heart and holds a special place. That may be the issue with your Master. Talk to him about it.

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RE: Sex with slaves? - 1/7/2009 2:04:50 PM

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I can not know the level of communication you two have,
so I am going to presume it is an open and honest exchange.

That being said,
your Master may have only been sharing a bit of fundamental male psychology,
in that males may make presumptions regarding [apparent] gestures of affection.

Well intended advise, from One to whom your success or failure is of interest?

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RE: Sex with slaves? - 1/7/2009 3:32:34 PM

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For those beautiful Ladies who have male slaves, what do you think of this idea? Do you think your slave sees you as less than Dominant if you kiss them, or share other acts of intimacy with them?

Nothing you choose to do makes you less dominant in my opinion. A slaves job is to give up control/power/authority, and anything else you say, whenever and wherever you say it, and to your exact specifications.

There are plenty of "slaves" who come at you with rules about how you should treat them/do them as slaves, but those are to me bottom dominants, and it will be up to you as to whether you want to be directed by them or yourself. They can't do it with me or in my space. M

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RE: Sex with slaves? - 1/7/2009 3:35:58 PM

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This sounds a lot like the ongoing discussion/argument: "Is allowing a slave to give a Dominant an orgasm relinquishing her control over him?" This might be what the Alpha is eluding to.

The talks I have been ivolved with have only been regarding FemDommes-is allowing a male slave to perform oral until she cums giving him more power-the freedom to control her? OR is it his duty and service to do that for her?

I can't imagine not kissing, fondling, groping, or any combination including having sex if I so desired. After all, what good is it being the Queen when I can't do what I want with My subjects?

BTW-regarding the above discussion: I see no problem in allowing a slave to perform oral to the satisfaction of the Dominant.

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RE: Sex with slaves? - 1/7/2009 3:49:39 PM

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I have trust issues when it comes to allowing a submissive to give me an orgasm... but that is true if I am in a vanilla relationship as well! I can't imagine making full use of a submissive, regardless of what that use was.

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RE: Sex with slaves? - 1/7/2009 5:24:06 PM

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ORIGINAL: Sylverdawn

I think your Alpha Master or whatever you call him... is a bit possessive and while you may like the idea of exploring your boundries ..clearly his boundaries are no touchie no fuckie the boys ... I would have a really clear discussion with him about expectations and limits. He probably doesnt have a problems with girls because his male position in your life would not be challenged and then there is always the ole on girl on girl thing that men have.. so he figures he will get in on that piece of tail literally and figuratively.. just my two cents .. good luck..SD

Thanks, SD, for saving me all that pesky typing.

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RE: Sex with slaves? - 1/8/2009 1:10:20 AM

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my mistress and i have sex together

and yes the vanilla kind and its awesome indeed

love when she allows me to cum inside of her then i can lickup and cleanup the mess i made

our cums mixed together do taste rather well ..glad our fluids have bonded so well together that we dont use condoms

she dont like them either ...awesome lady indeed

whats really special is when she allows me to cum inside of her ass ...something about cumming in a womans ass is special indeed

gawd knows she fucks my ass a heck of a lot more but when shes in the mood i gladly will to please her

been with her now for a number of years ...yes shes the only one i have sex with so i am faithfull to her ...why waste a awesome thing that we have together ? have fun ..mal

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RE: Sex with slaves? - 1/8/2009 6:19:56 AM

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I guess I have a different POV. ( Shocking I know!)
If you are His property (The Alpha Master), He gets to set the rules. If you no longer like the dynamic, then communicate that to Him and take it from there.
However, if in fact you enjoy being His property, then you must abide by his rules. It does not really make any difference if others do not understand His rules, motives, thoughts etc. It is between the 2 of you. Pure and simple.

As a Mistress/ Master. I do not intend ever to take into account the public consent of what I like, do, believe etc.
My houses My rules.

So, My response to you is this. If you choose to continue to be His ( Alpha Master), then live by his rules ( no kissing or sex with your male slaves). If they do not work for you any longer. Talk to him and if that does not work, leave. Respect each other and be friends.

And Just for the record, there are plenty of male slaves that would consider ownership without sex. I have several male slaves that serve Me and W/we never have sex, however, that is communicated up front.

The beauty of this lifestyle is IMHO whatever you chooe to make it. It's your coloring book, make the pictures to your liking.

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RE: Sex with slaves? - 1/8/2009 11:24:42 AM

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A lot of people seem to be reading a lot of things into this thread. All the OP said was that her Master had said that,

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... if there was a male slave in the house, not only would it compromise my position as a Mistress to fuck him, but also to french kiss him. He says that would put a crack in the structure. [Later, both `would's were corrected to `could'.]

At no point did she say that he had forbidden her to fuck or kiss any male slave she might have; she merely said that he had advised her that it would compromise her dominant position.

beeble.

(Edited to mention would/could.)

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RE: Sex with slaves? - 1/8/2009 5:02:04 PM

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Good point beeble. You are correct. However, and I am reading between the lines. Her Alpha does not seem to want her to have sex or kiss. I agree that his explanation is a little weak, however, it is between the 2 of them. Yes? No? Maybe?

Sex does not have to enter into a Ds dynamic. Now having said that, I personally can only have sex with a slave ( female in My case) However, ownership of a non sexual slave I have found can be profoundly rewarding for both parties, if in fact it is discussed and agreed upon from the conception (yes the pun was intended LOL)

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RE: Sex with slaves? - 1/9/2009 12:04:17 AM

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ORIGINAL: MsCfromMelbourne
Gosh, I think the long languid kiss of a beautiful man in bondage is one of the high points of living.

Who are "real" Dommes supposed to have hetsex with if they do not have sex with their submissives? Having vanilla sex with vanillas is vanilla (doh). Having sex with a male Dominant makes you a bedroom submissive (unless the Dom switches for you ).

The only kind of man you can dominate both in and out of bed is a male sub/slave.

I agree, and look forward to how this works out for the OP and her Master.
Good to see you again MsC. (from former BlkTall...) M

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RE: Sex with slaves? - 1/9/2009 1:06:38 PM

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I would have thought that a slave knowing the OP was doing as she was told by a man would compromise her dominance far more than having sex or kissing him.

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RE: Sex with slaves? - 1/9/2009 1:23:54 PM

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I would have thought that a slave knowing the OP was doing as she was told by a man would compromise her dominance far more than having sex or kissing him.

Absolutely, but I would imagine these dom/sub/sub or dom/sub/slave mixes are an interesting structure, and I suppose it works for some. I was approached by a lovely couple once, where she explained that they thought I was attractive, and she was a slave to him, but she would have to be dominant to me, as she doesn't submit to women... Needless to say it was a short conversation. M

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