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ORIGINAL: subtee

FORT WAINWRIGHT, Alaska, Sept. 11 -- Gov. Sarah Palin linked the war in Iraq with the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, telling an Iraq-bound brigade of soldiers that included her son that they would "defend the innocent from the enemies who planned and carried out and rejoiced in the death of thousands of Americans."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/11/AR2008091103789_pf.html

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

And repudiated the remark and later the pastor in question.

Now, if you're done evading the question---

God's war?

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ORIGINAL: subtee

This is from the article you cited, clearly showing they are not the same group:
The senior al Qaeda leadership saw the problem, and tried to convince the "Al Qaeda In Iraq" leadership to cool it. That didn't work. As early as 2004, some Sunni Arabs were turning on al Qaeda because of the "involuntary martyrs" problem. The many dead Shia Arab civilians led to a major terror campaign by the Shia majority. They controlled the government, had the Americans covering their backs, and soon half the Sunni Arab population were refugees.   Meanwhile, the "Al Qaeda In Iraq" leadership was out of control. Most of these guys are really out there, at least in terms of fanaticism and extremism. This led to another fatal error. They declared the establishment of  the "Islamic State of Iraq" in late 2006. This was an act of bravado, and touted as the first step in the re-establishment of the caliphate (a global Islamic state, ruled over by God's representative on earth, the caliph.) The caliphate has been a fiction for over a thousand years. Early on, the Islamic world was split by ethnic and national differences, and the first caliphate fell apart after a few centuries.  Various rulers have claimed the title over the centuries, but since 1924, when the Turks gave it up (after four centuries), no one of any stature has taken it up. So when al Qaeda "elected" a nobody as the emir of the "Islamic State of Iraq", and talked about this being the foundation of the new caliphate, even many pro-al Qaeda Moslems were aghast. When al Qaeda could not, in 2007, exercise any real control over the parts of Iraq they claimed as part of the new Islamic State, it was the last straw. The key supporters, battered by increasingly effective American and Iraqi attacks, dropped their support for al Qaeda, and the terrorist organization got stomped to bits by the "surge offensive" of last year. The final insult was delivered by the former Iraqi Sunni Arab allies, who quickly switched sides, and sometimes even worked with the Americans (more so than the Shia dominated Iraqi security forces) to hunt down and kill al Qaeda operators.

And as to point #4. HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!  Do you actually expect me to believe rhetoric from this administration?

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ORIGINAL: IamElise

And I find war in general disgusting Thadius. I would find killing white people disgusting. Why didn't we invade Boznia when there was obvious genocide? We had U.N. force but why not all out declared war? Not race baiting. I truely don't understand why we didn't invade Boznia and the former Soviet Union if the criteria is human rights, democracy and WMD?

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Sarah Palin, praying that America is on the right path?

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ORIGINAL: Thadius


Nope. Continue to believe the rhetoric and spin from articles on the internet.  You seem to want to gloss over the fact that even if we assume that "Al Qaeda in Iraq" is now a seperate entity, that their original founding and backing came about from the original.  Who is being naive here?  Those believing that Al Qaeda is some small little group only in Afghanistan and Pakistan, or those that believe they are spread out into many regions and countries of the world?

IF one wants to make a mountain out of this molehill, I can surely oblige. 

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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Sarah Palin, praying that America is on the right path?

Nope, not what she said.

Completely different from declaring Iraq "God's war."

Seems you aren't going to address the point, but rather continue to throw up smokescreens.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


I'm sure that if Governor Palin had ever called Iraq "Gods War" then you would have no problem providing us with a credible link verifying she used words expressing exactly that, but you can't.

So who's throwing up what?

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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Sarah Palin, praying that America is on the right path?

Nope, not what she said.

Completely different from declaring Iraq "God's war."

Seems you aren't going to address the point, but rather continue to throw up smokescreens.

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ORIGINAL: IamElise

Thadius. Are you saying we're in yet another undeclared war? Is that legal? I insulted no one's intelligence. But as you are someone who clearly believes it okay to invade a country without provocation I am someone who does not believe in military reaction unless we are being threatened. Where is the threat from Iraq?

And speaking of intelligence. Where is Al-Qaeda? Where are the WMD? Now that Saddam is dead where are the human right violations?

Basically, to get back to the theme of the thread, Sarah Palin is Bush in lipstick if she believes this war is viable and warrants victory . She is dangerous.

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that our leaders, our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God

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Switching to the war in Iraq, Palin told the group of students that they should not only pray for men and women in the military but to make sure the leaders of this country are sending U.S. soldiers "out on a task that is from God. That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan.""

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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that our leaders, our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God

Yup.