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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: HeavansKeeper

I am sorry... Sarah Palin is, without doubt, the worst thing that can happen to America.

She has little or no interest in economic matters, simply ignoring the huge American deficit.

Her personal agenda is a witch hunt on civil rights and freedom, with a heavy desire to pass laws which enforce her style of parenting. Which works great.

If McCain wins this election, I'm looking at Canadian real estate.

If McCain dies, and she becomes office, I'm moving.

Thank god for checks and balances.

*rant off* I feel better now. Whew.

Do you really mean that? I remember when Barbra was going to leave if Bush got elected....but she is still here.

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ORIGINAL: philosophy

...it's all very well saying that this Police chief wanted to charge the accused (note the fact that they can't be treated as rapists until after conviction) the price of providing evidence against them. However, how would that work in practice? No rape kit is used until the accused ponies up? That's not going to happen, and while i'm no constitutional scholar isn't there a fifth amendment issue here?
i can see a system working where, if an accused is found guilty, then costs are recouped. But there was no budget to pay for the kits in the first place, which meant if a victim wanted this to be done they would have to pay for the thing themselves.
Crass, penny pinching program, which clearly disadvantaged rape victims. Thadius, from my pov, this issue of charging the accused is a bit of a red herring.

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

PS: another thing: what would happen if victims had no health insurance?

         Probably a referral to these folks...

http://www.state.ak.us/admin/vccb/

    But with a rough average of two rapes per year in Wasilla (2000-2006 numbers), it may have never come up. 

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ORIGINAL: Daes

This seems to me a fairly simple matter.

If you are sexually assaulted you should not be forced to pay more fees - being an uninsured young woman as it is I cant even imagine having to pay Lawyer fees and whatnot in addition to having to pay for these things. I dont think anyone should have to either, it can be a traumtic experience in itself without all the excess crap, particularly if it isnt necessary.

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ORIGINAL: Daes

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth
Begs the question though - on what basis from that agreed upon history, of no accomplishments, is he qualified to to anything but what his history indicates he is most qualified? It would indicate is is most qualified for what he does best; which is - nothing. Now if he were runing for that - he has my vote!

Wouldnt it be better to start a thread Specifically on Obama's lack of experience than continuously trying to ignore the main point of the thread? You could actually have a good relevant discussion that way rather than indirectly encouraging a thread hijack. Just my opinion.

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ORIGINAL: bestbabync

if you are ever a victim of crime, you can file for compensation through your states victim's compensation fund.  every state has this, it is the law!  if you as the victim cannot file for compensation because of death or serious injury, your family can file on your behalf even. 

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Aaah, public policy isn't always a pretty thing. Whoever finds these gems: thank you.

"Despite denials by the Palin campaign, new evidence proves that as mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, Sarah Palin had a direct hand in imposing fees to pay for post-sexual assault medical exams conducted by the city to gather evidence.

Palin's role is now confirmed by Wasilla budget documents available online.

Under Sarah Palin's administration, Wasilla cut funds that had previously paid for the medical exams and began charging victims or their health insurers the $500 to $1200 fees."

The beauty of this: "The city budget documents demonstrate Palin read and signed off on the new budget. A year later, alarmed Alaska lawmakers passed legislation outlawing the practice."

Will Palin try to spin this one, and claim the restablishment of the old non-fee system as her own? Watch this space.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jacob-alperinsheriff/sarah-palin-instituted-ra_b_125833.html

PS: another thing: what would happen if victims had no health insurance?

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

What about rape kits? That's a real issue to me and to a lot of others, by the looks of things. If you don't like it, tough.

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ORIGINAL: bipolarber

Not that there's anything wrong with bitches and cunts... (in the right context, of course.)

But yeah, she seems the type to give bitches and cunts a bad name.

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Love it when you talk dirty  .

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ORIGINAL: bestbabync
this thread is a joke.  this is stating untrue facts by the leftist of the Dem party

victim's compensation act protects victims from being weighed down with expenses that they would not have incurred otherwise.  it is not the city or the city police departments responsibility to pay for the rape kit or any medical treatment given to the victims.
http://www.state.ak.us/local/akpages/ADMIN/vccb/pdf/Application.pdf
every state has this!