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MysticalPhoenix -> RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? (2/13/2006 6:02:45 AM)
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ORIGINAL: openmindedslave
Is it not possiable that a prodom may offer a safer experience for newbees to play. Many not all , have studios or better equipment to cater to the host of fetishes they are offering their clients . To clarify this further.This is not to suggest every prodom is trained in cpr or is better qualified in all fetishes than a lifestyle dom. But money speaks .And if a pro does not have something special , either in their qualifications, their host of toys, their knowledge of role playing or something else I have lacked in discribing. then the prodom will not have return clients . Would that not make sense?
It would make sense, but...One thing to keep in mind is that there is no licensing authority, no certificate, no degree, etc., covering Pro Domination. Anyone can call themselves a Pro, and charge people money to do scenes with them. As various posters have indicated, there are those out there who do exactly that, just to get money. You see their ads in the underground newspapers. And they don't give the value for the money that people are looking for. People have bad experiences and, if they don't know any better, assume that all Pro's are like them.
I've never known any of the above type of Pro's. I have known some dedicated scene people who were Pro's. And I would recommend these type of Pro Dominants to anyone who was looking for first experiences, was a do me boy, or who was married and wanted to do scenes but could not be involved in a relationship, etc.
Sure, they charge money (and I only recently found out how much going hourly rate is in our area-hoo boy!) for something that some believe should be given away free (sort of like Net Zero whose premise was that Internet access should be free-even they charge for it now), but outside of a relationship, when the sub has a vanilla wife or girlfriend, or where the submissive is looking only to get and not to give, or with someone that doesn't even know what they want in a bdsm relationship? They are lucky they find someone willing to engage in bdsm activities with them at all.
I think that people who do scenes for other people's benefit, should be compensated. For their time, for the effort involved in setting up and carrying out the scene, as well as reimbursed for any out of pocket costs that are exclusive to that client(i.e. purchasing toys that can only be used on a single person).
People have a choice. Nobody forces you to see someone who charges for their time if you are looking to scene. Nobody holds a gun to your head and makes you go back to a person who isn't good at it. You can sulk and whine about it, and demand that things be done your way (how submissive is that) but that's not going to win you any friends in the bdsm community, and only makes you unattractive to the few, rare, people who might actually be willing to scene with you and not expect cash, tribute, gifts, or anything else from you. They can afford to be very, very picky. I know, I used to be one of them.
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ORIGINAL=MichMasochist
All I have ever said is that PROdommes are in the same class as prostitute in my opinion, when they either imply or expressed that they are to be paid for their services.
A professional is usually someone who charges a flat hourly rate for their time, bills for their travel expenses, and expects reimbursement for their out of pocket costs.
I'm not doing it now, but I used to get paid a rather steep hourly rate for my professional services, including catering to clients' needs, doing exactly what they wanted in order to satisfy them, etc. I spent time with them on the phone, discussing their needs, and then planned everything out and delivered it. They paid for my travel expenses when I went to see them, and reimbursed my expenses on their behalf. So, even though I didn't have intercourse with them that would make me a prostitute, right?
I was a software development project manager.
Classing Pro Dommes as prostitutes in this day and age is not likely to win friends and influence people. Regardless of what you think, there are times when it's prudent to keep your opinions to yourself. That's called "wisdom" and "good manners". Professional Dominants are just that, they are paid an hourly rate to engage in bdsm activities with people. Street prostitutes are women who are paid by the act to engage in sex acts (usually oral and vaginal sex) with people. Escorts are paid a very high hourly rate, as they are a much higher level of prostitute than the crack whore on the street. Pretty Woman notwithstanding, you can't take a street prostitute to the opera or a black tie business dinner, after all.
I think the big issue that causes the gray area is that prostitutes can and do provide bdsm services-see books like the Mayflower Madam for more on that subject-and there have always been those who specialize in it. And a prostitute who specializes in bdsm activities is not the same as a Pro Dominant.
Just as sub males seem to have trouble differentiating between Pro and non-Pro Dominants, they also can't seem to tell the difference between a prostitute who specializes in bdsm and a Pro Dom.
Phoenix
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