leadership527
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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael I can own a book and never have to read it, never open its covers to discover its contents, never explore the deeper meanings or allow it to expand my mind. I truly own that book but so what? That ownership is meaningless in any way that matters. A child can own a book, a pompous ass can own a book as strongly and firmly as I. There is no reason to be proud of that sort of ownership. Not true. There is, simply, pride of ownership. For instance, let's suppose the book in question is a rare copy of god-knows-what. Then someone might well have pride that they are able to own this thing when others cannot (perhaps material success?). The book in this case becomes a status symbol. quote:
ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael I strive to make my partner strong and free with no invisible chains, no fraud and deceit. I want her bound to me not by chains but by joy. I want to give her the heavens to be free in so that when she returns I know she could kneel at any man’s feet but chooses mine out of all the men in the world. Yup, I'm with you there. Others, however, have different goals. In some cases I dislike them. In other cases, I find them morally reprehensible. In some cases, I might even find them legally actionable. But still, my goals for my life happiness our mine alone. I can only project them on other people when the laws of the land happen to coincide with my own viewpoints. In this case, however, I am not "making" them do anything other than to honor their own agreements and commitments and be law-abiding citizens in the country they choose to live in. quote:
ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael Part of the difficulty of all this is how we use language. Yeah, no doubt. Part in this case equates to about 99%. The language and terminology used in the BDSM sphere is notably nonsenical in a wide variety of ways. Sloppy wording leads to impossible questions with no right answer. quote:
ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael I push her to be a better person, not because I am a beacon of perfection but because I want her to be a better person. The respect comes in because I respect her enough to listen when she pushes me to be a better person as wel.l I do not fear her being strong or having an opinion, in fact I encourage her to be strong and to have opinions. She is bound to me not because I put a lock on her yesterday but because I inspired her today. She sees me allow someone else the last word, or share credit for an idea that was mine, or stop what I am doing to kneel down and give my full attention to her child. That is why she is bound to me. I am not alone in this, I know others who have bound their partner to them not by chains, not by manipulation, but by showing their partner how to be free and find joy and they are together because nothing makes them freer and more joyful than being together. I truly treasure those people and those friendships. All of which is fine and dandy and something I agree with. But again, there are LOTS of ways to bind someone. If two people want to be bound together in fear, anger and intimidation, I will avoid them but hey, it's their lives. So while I get what you're saying and, in fact, it's my style also, I don't reasonably see how it can be said to be inherently better or worse than some other style. Better and worse can only be evaluated in the context of a specific relationship.
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~Jeff I didn't so much "enslave" Carol as I did "enlove" her. - Me I want a joyous, loving, respectful relationship where the male is in charge and deserves to be. - DavanKael
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