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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

She believes the Bible is literally true.  Is there really any more to be said?

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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

She believes the Bible is literally true.  Is there really any more to be said?

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

Do you hate everyone who is religious, LAM?

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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

She believes the Bible is literally true.  Is there really any more to be said?

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen
But she doesnt LaM - she violates so many of the "rules for women" given in the Bible she either hasnt read it (rightfully too, since she's a woman she shouldnt be permitted to), doesnt believe it (and its all a PR stunt), is adopting a "pick and mix" attitude or is deliberately violating that which she holds to be literally true in terms of proper female decorum

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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Absolutely not.  But someone who believes the Bible is LITERALLY true belongs on a different planet.  There's no possibility of rational discussion with someone like that.

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

       Of course there is more to be said, LaM.  That's the beauty of Palin on the ticket.  What pew did Obama sit in for 20ish years? 

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

But does Obama claim to take the Bible literally?

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

So, you're argiuing that Senator Obama isn't a "real" Christian, despite his claims.

And therefore, because he's only doing it for show, as a political stunt to win votes, that makes him the better candidate.

That about sum it up?

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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Absolutely not.  But someone who believes the Bible is LITERALLY true belongs on a different planet.  There's no possibility of rational discussion with someone like that.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

 
He says he's a Christian. What does that mean to you?

That he's an athiest?

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

But does Obama claim to take the Bible literally?

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ORIGINAL: bipolarber

The reasons I don't like her are simple:

1) She doesn't have a fucking clue. She didn't even know the definition of the job, according to the Constitution, the other night at the debate. Biden had to remind her of Article One. (You'd think that someone running for an office would at least look up it's definition before spouting off.)

2) Her religious views, and my idea of personal liberty clash. She's fundie Christian, and wants to shut down women's choices over their own reproductive systems. She wants to dumb down the American school system by teaching creationisim. She wants to ban books. She's anti-wiccan.

3) From all reports, she abuses power, and outright lies, on a regular basis. Troopergate, the bridge to nowhere fiasco, the lie about her supporting Alaska's divestment from Darfur, how the troops are at "pre-surge levels" (we actually have about 17,000 more than when the surge started) the deliberate lies about McCain's tax and health care plans... etc., etc..

4) She just plain gives me the creeps. I grew up in the middle of Illinois, around people like her. Let me tell you, anyone who waves the "I'm from a small town" flag and thinks it's a positive, is either deluded, or just plain doesn't know what the fuck they are talking about. Small towns, my friends, are where folks drink themselves into stupors, attend church to support their own narrow world views by surrounding themselves with like minded people, and get their political opinions from right wing radio and TV. Take a look at the mid-winter suicide rate in small towns sometime, compared to the rest of the nation. Small towns are vest pocket universes of boredom, desperation, and ignorrance.  

Believe it or not, the world is a much, much bigger, and more complex place than even a lifetime in Wassilla, Alaska would have you believe.  

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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Absolutely not.  But someone who believes the Bible is LITERALLY true belongs on a different planet.  There's no possibility of rational discussion with someone like that.

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

This does not negate their feeling that Jesus was a divinely inspired individual and perhaps sent here from God.

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

Being a Christian doesn't require taking the Bible literally.

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But what is happening here, DC, unless someone has video of Sarah reciting the Falwell Creed, is that the positions and dogma of her church are being directly assigned to her.

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ORIGINAL: bipolarber

4) She just plain gives me the creeps. I grew up in the middle of Illinois, around people like her. Let me tell you, anyone who waves the "I'm from a small town" flag and thinks it's a positive, is either deluded, or just plain doesn't know what the fuck they are talking about. Small towns, my friends, are where folks drink themselves into stupors, attend church to support their own narrow world views by surrounding themselves with like minded people, and get their political opinions from right wing radio and TV. Take a look at the mid-winter suicide rate in small towns sometime, compared to the rest of the nation. Small towns are vest pocket universes of boredom, desperation, and ignorrance.