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KobudoKnight -> RE: WHY NO POLITE RESPONSES??? (10/12/2008 10:19:39 AM)
Any 'master' or 'dom' that speaks that way to strangers. or those who have not agreed to submit to them, are merely children whose fragile egos cannot withstand rejection. These people have no right to those titles. Respect is earned, not demanded.

Sandyshores29718 -> RE: WHY NO POLITE RESPONSES??? (10/12/2008 10:20:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterChip2008 I am growing deeply concerned about the sub's and slave's that do not ever reply/respond to message's sent to them by Masters/Mistreess's, not even a polite 'Thanks, but no thanks' would be nice. However, increasingly, I find that its virtually impossible to receive a response from sub's and slave's when they are contacted thru here. A sub/slave's 'duty' is first and foremost 'to serve', this includes, but is definitely not limited to, responding when a Master/Mistress say's something to them...even if the response is in the 'negative'. And yet...there are so very many who just never reply/respond or react in any way whatsoever. Master Chip 2008 I do not reply most of the time. If someone just says "hi" why should I waste my time? I do not owe anything to anyone BUT my Sir and the people I choose to talk to. I may be submissive, but that does not mean I am to everyone. I do not go out of my way to be rude, but I dont go out of my way to make someone I dont even know think theres a chance when theres not. If someone sends me a simple message I might reply depends on my mood and what they have said; however, I'm starting to see that if I even do that they come back acting like Im interested in them or they are me. So, by not replying Im ending it before it starts. :-)

NuevaVida -> RE: WHY NO POLITE RESPONSES??? (10/12/2008 10:29:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ShatteredSoul123 The truth is, as much as I didn't like the question you are asking.... the replies to you are even worse IMHO. So let me answer you honestly... The problem as I see it, is you have a predefined notion of what a sub/slave is to you. This is not a bad thing at all, but rather a good one. The thing you have to understand is, not everyone uses your definitions. That's why you are getting so many responses telling you that the problem is your thoughts on the subject. Thats why you keep hearing "as a sub I owe you, a stranger, nothing". The fact is, you should take the lack of response to mean exactly what it does mean - that by your definition the person not replying is not a real sub or slave. Thats fine... move on. Keep sending out your emails exactly as you do, because when you do find someone who agrees with your definition, that person is CERTAINLY going to reply! I actually see your point in this post, but the question I have after reading it is, is the OP really better off with a limited perspective such as this, rather than understanding the why's and why not's of what is happening? Or would a broader understanding of what's going on be more helpful in easing his frustration?

Missokyst -> RE: WHY NO POLITE RESPONSES??? (10/12/2008 10:37:09 AM)
I was feeling a little reactive to this response as well. Until I read it again. Note the colored highlighted text below. In this case it is correct. By the OP's definition of what it is to be a real sub or slave, those who do not respond do not fit his idea of what should work. I don't feel it is of any benefit for the OP to continue to believe that bunk but if it is his fantasy then only those that share that view will respond and possible they will hook up. In my view that is one less irritant. Kyst quote: ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl quote: ORIGINAL: ShatteredSoul123 The fact is, you should take the lack of response to mean exactly what it does mean - that by your definition the person not replying is not a real* sub or slave*. Thats fine... move on. please universally define what a real submissive/slave is for us then so we might follow your "wise" teachings. also it's his predefined notion that will never land him that special submissive/slave he so desires.

SoulPiercer -> RE: WHY NO POLITE RESPONSES??? (10/12/2008 10:51:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterChip2008 I am growing deeply concerned about the sub's and slave's that do not ever reply/respond to message's sent to them by Masters/Mistreess's, not even a polite 'Thanks, but no thanks' would be nice. However, increasingly, I find that its virtually impossible to receive a response from sub's and slave's when they are contacted thru here. A sub/slave's 'duty' is first and foremost 'to serve', this includes, but is definitely not limited to, responding when a Master/Mistress say's something to them...even if the response is in the 'negative'. And yet...there are so very many who just never reply/respond or react in any way whatsoever. I'll bite: Why are you deeply concerned? Do you fear their immortal souls will forever be condemned to hell if they do not change their evil ways? Do you fear they may never find a worthy master (such as yourself) and thus be doomed to walk the earth alone forever? Where is it written that a sub/slave's "duty" is first and foremost "to serve"? The solution to getting responses is simple. Start with yourself and work outward from there. For Example: If it were me, I would actually read profiles and only send messages to subs/slaves who clearly stated "I dig guys who wear cowboy hats and sunglasses." I'd be willing to bet, if you did that, you would get tons of responses. Just sayin'. quote: ORIGINAL: MasterChip2008 Another matter, on a different subject is...there has been a huge outbreak of 'supposed' subs/slaves sending message's to Masters and Mistresses from out of the USA, from Ghana for example. They claim they want a 'owner', but then go on to 'demand' extreme funds for plane tickets, visa's, and passports, making claims that all can be had within 72 hours time, IF they have the money. I have, personally, checked this out....the shortest time anyone can get a passport/visa from Ghana, or most anywhere else is actually 6 months or more, and even then, some governments require that the person requesting thses documents have a large bank account balance and real property in they're country, there-by assureing thery're return. I have not found any country willing to grant visa's and passports within 72 hours, and normally there is a long and detailed process by which said items are gotten anyway. My advise to all Masters and Mistresses, if you get a message from someone outside of your own country, simply do not reply, its most likely a 'con-game' to simply get your money. And for those who receive message's from those in your country, be sure that if you assist with transportation for these subs/slave's, you pre-pay for the ticket, so you can get a refund if the ticket is not used and it cannot be cashed in by anyone else... On a final note, I hope everyone here, Masters,Mistresses, slaves and subs have a wonderful day and night!! Master Chip 2008 I've received a few messages like this. It's interesting to me that you seem to know an awful lot about how these operations work. Have you perhaps replied to these messages and discovered that said slave from Ghana (who lists her weight as 75 lbs.) was in fact only after your money? Thanks for the warning Chip. However, I think most of us had this one figured out, without even replying to the messages. Now I am beginning to suspect that there is a direct correlation between "Masters" who complain about not getting responses from subs/slaves and "Masters" who have been ripped off or come close to being ripped by the Ghana Slave Scam.

GreedyTop -> RE: WHY NO POLITE RESPONSES??? (10/12/2008 10:59:42 AM)
adores SP

ShatteredSoul123 -> RE: WHY NO POLITE RESPONSES??? (10/12/2008 11:01:08 AM)
I thank you so much for what you said Missokyst. I was about to type the same thing when I read what you said... I want people to understand one thing very clearly.... HIS definition of what is real and what is not is NOT BY ANY STRETCH OF IMAGINATION MY OWN VIEWS. The fact is though, I realize not everyones views are the same. Do you tell the slave who wants to be locked in a basement and never brought into public to stop seeking a master because you don't agree with her definition? Do you think the concept of a slave is actual unrealistic? Perhaps you think a slve is just a more extreme version of a sub? Or maybe you are gorean and think all women are subject to be slaves and submissiveness is a quality all women have? My point is, everyones defintions are different. Use what works for you, find like minded people to surround yourself with, and move on. But in the process keep an open mind that not everyones beliefs are that of your own. I don't mean to offend anyone with the things I say, I just think more people need an open mind, and as such, they need to be explained HOW first.

faerytattoodgirl -> RE: WHY NO POLITE RESPONSES??? (10/12/2008 11:02:10 AM)
in light of this thread i made a new sig line!!!!

zakkan -> RE: WHY NO POLITE RESPONSES??? (10/12/2008 11:09:26 AM)
If that works I'm not replying to mail too![:D]

RealSub58 -> RE: WHY NO POLITE RESPONSES??? (10/12/2008 11:11:38 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterChip2008 A sub/slave's 'duty' is first and foremost 'to serve', this includes, but is definitely not limited to, responding when a Master/Mistress say's something to them...even if the response is in the 'negative'. And yet...there are so very many who just never reply/respond or react in any way whatsoever. Master Chip 2008 I have almost always responded to anything, positive or negative unless I find that it is time to stop the conversation. It has NOTHING to do with my desire to serve. Character identity is incredibly difficult to define. We all have ideas in our minds of who we are, who we want to become, or how we want to live. The single greatest gift a human being possesses is free will… our ability to think, make choices, and take action with the decisions we make. These decisions eventually mold the person we are, our character identity. The character identity on anonymous boards such as these is apathy and to do nothing. It is a shame, but it is free will.

AMaster -> RE: WHY NO POLITE RESPONSES??? (10/12/2008 11:18:28 AM)
I have pretty much stopped trying to contact people here because there is seldom a response. A "no, thanks" or even a "fuck you" is better than now answer at all.

persephonee -> RE: WHY NO POLITE RESPONSES??? (10/12/2008 11:20:28 AM)
i call shenanigans on that AM...you sent me a very nice email in response to a question i had and i responded promptly and with love.....smootch blinkblink perse

Icarys -> RE: WHY NO POLITE RESPONSES??? (10/12/2008 11:22:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterChip2008 I am growing deeply concerned about the sub's and slave's that do not ever reply/respond to message's sent to them by Masters/Mistreess's, not even a polite 'Thanks, but no thanks' would be nice. However, increasingly, I find that its virtually impossible to receive a response from sub's and slave's when they are contacted thru here. A sub/slave's 'duty' is first and foremost 'to serve', this includes, but is definitely not limited to, responding when a Master/Mistress say's something to them...even if the response is in the 'negative'. And yet...there are so very many who just never reply/respond or react in any way whatsoever. Another matter, on a different subject is...there has been a huge outbreak of 'supposed' subs/slaves sending message's to Masters and Mistresses from out of the USA, from Ghana for example. They claim they want a 'owner', but then go on to 'demand' extreme funds for plane tickets, visa's, and passports, making claims that all can be had within 72 hours time, IF they have the money. I have, personally, checked this out....the shortest time anyone can get a passport/visa from Ghana, or most anywhere else is actually 6 months or more, and even then, some governments require that the person requesting thses documents have a large bank account balance and real property in they're country, there-by assureing thery're return. I have not found any country willing to grant visa's and passports within 72 hours, and normally there is a long and detailed process by which said items are gotten anyway. My advise to all Masters and Mistresses, if you get a message from someone outside of your own country, simply do not reply, its most likely a 'con-game' to simply get your money. And for those who receive message's from those in your country, be sure that if you assist with transportation for these subs/slave's, you pre-pay for the ticket, so you can get a refund if the ticket is not used and it cannot be cashed in by anyone else... On a final note, I hope everyone here, Masters,Mistresses, slaves and subs have a wonderful day and night!! Master Chip 2008 Some people just aren't polite..Count yourself lucky and move on. I do. I don't care what excuse you make up for being impolite, your still an arse just like those Nasty "Dom's" that respond cruelly , no?

KyttynTheMynx -> RE: WHY NO POLITE RESPONSES??? (10/12/2008 11:24:56 AM)
Edited because the coffee is weak, and I was just echoing...lol

CalifChick -> RE: WHY NO POLITE RESPONSES??? (10/12/2008 11:25:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Icarys Some people just aren't polite..Count yourself lucky and move on. I do. I don't care what excuse you make up for being impolite, your still an arse just like those Nasty "Dom's" that respond cruelly , no? I'm trying to understand what you said... are you saying that people that don't respond to every email they get are impolite and an ass? Cali

Icarys -> RE: WHY NO POLITE RESPONSES??? (10/12/2008 11:26:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CalifChick quote: ORIGINAL: Icarys Some people just aren't polite..Count yourself lucky and move on. I do. I don't care what excuse you make up for being impolite, your still an arse just like those Nasty "Dom's" that respond cruelly , no? I'm trying to understand what you said... are you saying that people that don't respond to every email they get are impolite and an ass? Cali If it's a polite email. I'd say yes. Works on both sides as far as I'm concerned.

subforu2903 -> RE: WHY NO POLITE RESPONSES??? (10/12/2008 11:27:35 AM)
i had a strange event last night...received a borderline rude first email from a "Dom" and when i went to give a polite "Thanks but no thanks" reply, i found he had blocked me...He describes himself as a Daddy Dom....but who is the child here?

Divyacheri -> RE: WHY NO POLITE RESPONSES??? (10/12/2008 11:31:12 AM)
~Fast Reply~ I think the OP is not understanding that real life is completely different than virtual life. In real life you approach someone, you are likely to get a response, "No thanks." or "No way asshole." The problem with the internet and the communication with in it- is that people have forgotten what it is like to simply be human. I for one use to have a rule to simply delete e-mails (sometimes I still do especially if it is an insane person to whom NO is not sufficient), but now I open each one and simply read it. Reading the e-mail to me is enough. If I don't respond they get it. With the sincere e-mails...I will say something. But many and I mean MANY on this site...are simply not serious or simply not serious enough for me. they play games and waste your time. So you become protective, cautious, and sometimes I have become defensive. What humans don't realize that behind the screen and the words...there's an actual human. Human beings that HAS feelings. However, we have allowed the politically correctness of "the internet," to allow us to be rude, nasty, and most of all game players. I remember years ago actually about 12 years ago on IRC (Internet Relay Chat)- it was a lot different. People were family and you made an effort to not only get to know them...you met them. That has change my friend.

Kindandcruel -> RE: WHY NO POLITE RESPONSES??? (10/12/2008 11:32:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NuevaVida quote: ORIGINAL: ShatteredSoul123 The truth is, as much as I didn't like the question you are asking.... the replies to you are even worse IMHO. So let me answer you honestly... The problem as I see it, is you have a predefined notion of what a sub/slave is to you. This is not a bad thing at all, but rather a good one. The thing you have to understand is, not everyone uses your definitions. That's why you are getting so many responses telling you that the problem is your thoughts on the subject. Thats why you keep hearing "as a sub I owe you, a stranger, nothing". The fact is, you should take the lack of response to mean exactly what it does mean - that by your definition the person not replying is not a real sub or slave. Thats fine... move on. Keep sending out your emails exactly as you do, because when you do find someone who agrees with your definition, that person is CERTAINLY going to reply! I actually see your point in this post, but the question I have after reading it is, is the OP really better off with a limited perspective such as this, rather than understanding the why's and why not's of what is happening? Or would a broader understanding of what's going on be more helpful in easing his frustration? This has little to do with if you are a slave or not... it has everything to do with common curtesy which is no longer so common. How much does it take to go into the reply area and select a pre-written answer like "No thank you" This is nothing more than a show of the attitudes of the majority of slaves/women here that are focused on me me me and don't care about anybody else. The standard woman is only interested in laying around the house and being sexually available, they don't want to serve, they don't want to do any housework, they are totally worthless as submissives or slaves. They are selfish as well as self centered. Then they complain endlessly about getting one liners and cut and past letters... Duh! Why should I spend hours on a letter to a woman that will most likely be rude or most likely not even answer? The women on this board are definately not worth the time and effort because of their low caliber and lack of integrity. But in case one does return a letter, I will go to the max in sharing communications and making shre she is aware of what she is getting into. That is usually when they dissappear and don't bother to say a word... agan how much does it talk to show a little bit of good character by saying "Sorry this isn't what I am looking for?" Apparently it is far more integrity than the women here can attain.

GreedyTop -> RE: WHY NO POLITE RESPONSES??? (10/12/2008 11:34:44 AM)
:X quote: ORIGINAL: Icarys If it's a polite email. I'd say yes. Works on both sides as far as I'm concerned. so, Icarys.. have you missed the posts about even a polite "thanks, but no thanks" response getting vitriolic responses?

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