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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

You know, I hope to one day fuck a porn starlet. After looking at my income I don't think  I make enough money

so that John McCain's tax plan would help me realize My dream.

Perhaps if I had some media attention..............

Jeff The Auto Guy

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ORIGINAL: NumberSix

Jeff, I think you got potential.

Thing is; if you are gonna sit there from the Reagan years with tax liens against your ass, you could see how all us rich folk could get a little huffy; no?

You ungrateful bastard.

Pay the shit you owe, it is patriotic.

Gen. Benedict Arnold

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

Joe  can't even afford to but the bizz, he just one day hopes too. Who gives a shit what an un licensed plumber thinks?

Is this the state of political debate in this country now? Any knucklehead who stands in front of a microphone can  sway people?

I mean....... WHAT THE FUCK?

Jeff

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ORIGINAL: maybemaybenot

I will pretend to go along with Obama's tax plan, keeping in mind it is a plan and he can only propose it he cannot unilaterally create it.
So we raise the taxes on the " Joe Plummer's " of the country. Fair enough, take his money and give it to the " little folks". So now the Joe Plummers are feeling the crunch and some will fold their businesses, but more likely " the little people" will absorb the tax hike anyway. Joe Plummer will raise his prices to offset the tax hike, and the " little people" will be paying $350 for Joe Plummer to come out and snake their toilet.

In the meantime, my big strapping 40 year old next door neighbor who is on disability for some unheard of mental condition, who consumes a 30 pack+ a day beer habit ( $ 700/month ), who was given a mortgage for $ 1250 with condo fees of  $ 300, whose only income is his SSI check for $ 950 is facing forclosure and can't figure out why he " ain't getting some kind of funding to help me out of my bind" will be given some of " Joe Plummer's cash to drink up.  Guess who my neighbor is voting for ? He can't lay enough praises on Obama, this tax plan has him drooling like a dog. More money for contributing absolutely nothing to society. And he is just one of a good percentage of Americans who will get this money.

Keep in mind I am a Libertarian so ANY taxation is against my core beliefs.  I work two jobs to keep a roof over my head and food on MY table, not any one elses.If I chose to help out the less fortunate it should be at my discretion, not the governments.  Not a popular position around here, but there it is.

                                  mbmbn

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ORIGINAL: NumberSix

OK, Sanity you can see me, so lets for one instance quit hepping folks to our wisdom.

Obama had cash money for votes? Or he was offering a 'sort of thingie' for votes, or what?

What does McCain offer except blood, sweat, toil and tears, and we aint going to be at war.............(or for a hundred years)


You be careful of me, slick; and I will of you.

Ron Melby   

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


He intends to have the thugs down at the IRS raid those who have earned a certain degree of wealth in order to financially reward the low and middle-income people to whom he is counting on to put him over the top in this election.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Alright Ron -

I linked to the video itself numerous times in this thread already in which Senator Obama is clearly bragging to the voters who are surrounding him how if he is elected he will begin "spreading the wealth around".

Now if you'll have a look at this analysis of his tax plan you will see as plainly as you spoke that Senator Obama fully intends to back his words with action. He intends to have the thugs down at the IRS raid those who have earned a certain degree of wealth in order to financially reward the low and middle-income people to whom he is counting on to put him over the top in this election.

Cash for votes.

If this works out for him, what's to stop the next Democrat who wants to be President (or Republican for that matter) to promise even more cash for people's votes. How carried away can these politicians get with this madness? Where is the end to it.

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Its low and middle income people that are drug addicts that are robbing grocery stores for a living?

Well, at least theyre paying some income tax on their ill gotten gains

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ORIGINAL: NumberSix

OK, Obama bad and terrorist and Hussein and whatnot.

SSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO..

Mr whiney does what?

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I liked it better when you were more plain-spoken, and on topic...

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

I can imagine the scandal now

"Obama wins by offering the majority of voters more attractive policy options"

How will the democratic process recover from such a thing?

E

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

What's wrong with it?

What if someone who isn't quite as well off as you are hires someone to put a gun to your head and demand some of your belongings.

It's only fair, right? You have more, so that makes it okay.

That's what you're arguing! The federal government taking bribe money is no different! They use the threat of force and then actual force if anyone fails to comply, it is absolutely no different.

Some taxes have to be raised for necessities, sure. But what Obama is promising is flat out thievery.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Ssssshhhhhh!

McCain will steal our issues!

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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Its low and middle income people that are drug addicts that are robbing grocery stores for a living?

Well, at least theyre paying some income tax on their ill gotten gains

Don't be silly.

With these prices, so few people shop that those stores aren't worth robbing.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

Cheaper, more abundant energy would help keep inflation in check, keeping the store prices lower so people can shop more.

What's Obama's energy plan again? Handing out tire gauges? Clean coal?

Do you believe in it?

What about gasoline and fuel oil. What's his plan for that.

Oh yeah, he said we can't eat as much as we want anymore...

Nice.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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Its low and middle income people that are drug addicts that are robbing grocery stores for a living?

Well, at least theyre paying some income tax on their ill gotten gains

Don't be silly.

With these prices, so few people shop that those stores aren't worth robbing.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

S,

First, you just quoted not a point, but a joke in return for a joke by another poster.

Second, Obama has already laid out his plans (it not to anyone's satisfaction, at least as well as McCain's), and rather to list them endlessly here for you to ignore, visit his website if you're truly interested, or read any number of articles on the topic from an extremely wide range of publications.

But then you weren't really interested in those plans anyway.