RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you?

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masterofdrkness2 -> RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you? (10/18/2008 3:13:05 PM)
collar, own and taken all have the same meaning to me ...I am not one who just randomly collars anyone.. took me 3 years to collar wenchy ,to me it is the same as being married . some thing I wont be rushed into , it is a lasting commitment from me . as LadyPact said ... they have become family ..... to the op I have seen some get collared in under 3 hours lol

ResidentSadist -> RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you? (10/18/2008 3:20:10 PM)
I'm in accord with Webster on all those meanings.

natasha66 -> RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you? (10/18/2008 3:40:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: littlewonder To be owned and collared means we have made a commitment to each other, we're in a relationship together, we're devoted to each other because we've taken the time to know each other and have taken the next step. It's not something I rush into, it's not something I take lightly. It means that I am now officially HIS. I wholeheartedly agree with this. Unfortunately my brain isn't functioning at full enough capacity at the moment to put my feelings into words. You said it much better than I could have.

Padriag -> RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you? (10/18/2008 4:07:19 PM)
What do they mean... to many these days, apparently not very much. I must confess, they don't mean nearly as much nor the same as they once did to me. I tend to view owner ship today... of anything... as that which I can keep, hold onto, claim, etc. through my own means. If it can be taken away from me, it was never really mine. For example... do I own my home... no, the bank does and if I missed some mortgage payments they'd probably remind me of that. When I pay the mortgage off then I can really say I own it. Do I own my own businesses... for now, but only so long as I'm clever enough and hard working enough to maintain that... it isn't permanent. Do other's own "slaves"... I dunno... if they can be taken away from you, seduced by someone else, etc... then I would say that ownership was very much an illusion. If on the otherhand they remain with you regardless of circumstance or enticements... you might make a good argument that you own them. For me ownership comes down to what you can actively possess and hold on to. Anyone can claim to own something. Many can take things. But far fewer can claim or take something and hold on to it... those are the ones who "own."

Roselaure -> RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you? (10/18/2008 4:11:07 PM)
Titles are essentially just that, and meaningless except as understood by the people in the relationship. My personal definitions are: "Taken", is seeing someone seriously, more than a play partner, but less than complete committment. "Owned" is a deepening of that relationship. Committed as understood by the parties in the relationship. "Collared" to me is the same as "Owned" except it includes jewelry.

CelticPrince -> RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you? (10/18/2008 6:12:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: littlewonder To be owned and collared means we have made a commitment to each other, we're in a relationship together, we're devoted to each other because we've taken the time to know each other and have taken the next step. It's not something I rush into, it's not something I take lightly. It means that I am now officially HIS. littlewonder, But you left out "taken"????? CP

patina -> RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you? (10/18/2008 6:47:55 PM)
Greetings: Recently i posted i was owned then within a week to 2 week period i had left him. I actually felt pressured into stating i was own. i just find myself agreeing against my better judgement to posting such statements. I think i may have finally learned though to say to a Dom, no i will not do as you say you do not own me. Anyway i a really do value and hold the idea of being owned/collared as a serious action in my life. Unfortunatly i seem to have gotten the majority of fakes and players as they all say oh but i know we are made for each other and you must do as i say now. I am finally learning these are the fakes to tell them to go fly a kite. I have been a silly gal to trust so quick. patina

littlewonder -> RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you? (10/18/2008 7:29:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CelticPrince quote: ORIGINAL: littlewonder To be owned and collared means we have made a commitment to each other, we're in a relationship together, we're devoted to each other because we've taken the time to know each other and have taken the next step. It's not something I rush into, it's not something I take lightly. It means that I am now officially HIS. littlewonder, But you left out "taken"????? CP When I say I'm "taken" then it simply means I'm currently seeing/dating someone.

LadyPact -> RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you? (10/18/2008 7:48:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CelticPrince quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact Owned, collared, property.... To Me, these are family. A place that can not be taken from My boy. That he is Mine fills My heart with love and pride. That this is My boy. My sub. That the trinket I place on his neck compares little to what he has in My heart. Then again, I'm sentimental. Not everyone feels this way. LP, so I assume the terms are all inclusive for you! CP The three I used are, but I don't see them on the same level as taken.

DavanKael -> RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you? (10/18/2008 7:57:18 PM)
For me, ideally, it means the same thing a wedding band would connote to most. For me, at least, it means valued, cherished, not optional. Davan

daddysliloneds -> RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you? (10/18/2008 8:04:18 PM)
titles mean nothing to me; it's the way the relationship actually operates that does, and only if it's my relationship.

sravaka -> RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you? (10/19/2008 5:57:58 AM)
I think I'm in a minority here (nothing new)... to me "owned" means that everything I am, feel, think, do belongs to my partner for him to use, mold, enjoy, take care of, over a long if not permanent haul. I wouldn't think of myself as "owned" unless I had given absolute authority/control to my partner and he was in fact exercising that authority/control. Not something that can be accomplished in 3 days, though the intent to create such a relationship would likely be present well in advance of its being realized. "Collared" to me represents the formal commitment to the relationship, and one might be collared in a relationship that didn't involve being owned, as I define it.... though for me personally it's inseparable from "owned" and yes, as serious as or more serious than a wedding ring. "Collared" is the relationship-vessel, and "owned" one particular kind of content. "Taken" just means unavailable because of whatever kind of involvement, at whatever stage.

SultryMomma -> RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you? (10/19/2008 6:39:33 AM)
I have been reading all of the replies, trying to figure out the best wording for me to describe what those words mean to me, and to be honest, LadyPact hit it on the nail for me. SM (Kris)

catize -> RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you? (10/19/2008 7:08:14 AM)
*fast reply* taken: I had it, it was taken from me owned: Ow! Ned, that hurt! collared: The collar red is a safe word (feeling punny today!)

CelticPrince -> RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you? (10/19/2008 7:11:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OttersSwim Total Noob Reply Here: Through discussions with my Lady it has come to me that for most, a collar is a very serious thing - akin to a wedding ring in commitment and level of trust. While I would someday desire to receive Her collar, we are waayyy to early in our relationship for anything like that, and for this moment, I am her submissive and quite happy with that. To me, Owned implies a M/s connotation and that's all I can say about that. Otters, Seems to me then that taken would suit your sitrep; correct? CP

silkenfire -> RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you? (10/19/2008 7:12:02 AM)
Fast Reply To me, I am taken. Taken means that I am not looking for a romantic or D/s relationship of any kind because I have my master and am content. Owned is a step from where I am. Owned is when he will control every aspect of my life and I will be secure in myself enough to allow it to happen, to allow myself to be completely dependent on his decisions. Collared to me is a touchy issue -- I feel that a collar means something, but I'm also a bit too sentimental. I see a collar as something that shows one is owned, and I believe that it is something important and not to be done lightly. I also see it as a gift of the D side to label the s side as theirs. I don't expect this to honestly happen to myself, and certainly don't feel worthy of it myself. Now, I know it means different things to different people, and I don't judge their views on the matter. But to me it is akin to, but different than marriage. Marriage for the M/s D/s side, but not for the legal, romantic, "real life" side. And something that comes with connotations in my mind that I may never be ready for. But that's me. ETA: I do however see the use of "play collars" as a totally different and viable thing than the idea of "being collared" -- sort of like how I wear plenty of rings in real life but that doesn't mean I'm "engaged or married" like it could mean.

CelticPrince -> RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you? (10/19/2008 7:14:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CallaFirestormBW "Taken" and "Collared" are flexible terms for us. I'll 'take' a bottom for play, or collar a servant to the House in a training or probationary/prospective collar without a lot of preparatory expectations. When an individual is taken as a long-term servant and moves from a probationary to a full House collar, there will have been extensive preparatory time. Individuals who get to that point have been with us for six months to a year. We've talked about all the aspects of the potential relationship, and everyone is pretty clear what xhe can expect. Beyond this, we have had bond-servants. This is a deep and abiding commitment to unlimited service to the Household. Boundaries are set aside, and whatever will best serve the needs of the Keepers and the House becomes the driving force for the servant. This kind of commitment is our equivalent to what some call a TPE or no-holds-barred servitude, and typically takes -years- to take shape. We -never- accept someone directly into bond-servitude. It is something that, for us, grows organically as understanding grows and trust develops between the participants. Hope this is answering the questions, Calla Firestorm Calla, Thanks for your thoughts, but what happened to "owned" Does it not exist in your house? CP

CelticPrince -> RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you? (10/19/2008 7:18:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: oceanwynds On my profile, i believe i do not have owned or not owned. My heart is with Sir. I am not looking for a Domaniant here or anywhere. I have accepted what Sir can offer me and am willing to live with that, which is not to collar me. I will not beg for a collar, since that is not his way. If later on he chooses differently, then He will let me know. I cannot speak for other submissives or slaves. They have other wants and needs, and I honor that. I just happy to serve Sir. oceanwynds wynds, Truely humble thoughts, so I will assume a "taken" status. Thanks for your input. CP

CelticPrince -> RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you? (10/19/2008 7:20:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lockit A collar is a serious thing to me and has more to do with what is in our hearts than what is on the neck. I see those who come here seeking and are quickly collared or taken and think... see you next week on the boards honey... wondering where master/mistress has gone or what to do about them. Or a quick change artist. Oh well... life is made up of many people and if they want the roller coaster... I will give them my ticket too... I don't need it. Lockit, Very well stated, thanks. CP

lizcgirl -> RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you? (10/19/2008 8:16:01 AM)
Taken was what I used in vanilla terms to say that I was with some one. It could be dating, engaged, whatever. Basically it meant I wasn't available. Collared and owned to me are the same thing. I will not wear a collar if I am not owned by a person. If I did, it would trivialize something that means alot to me and I won't do that. I can't be owned by a person I don't care for and want to be with for a long time. A collar actually means more to me than an engagement ring so I refuse to jump from one to another to another. When I'm collared, I think of that person first, I behave as though they're with me at all times, I give all of me to them. I don't do that in every relationship so I choose to keep it seperate for my own peace of mind.

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