RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you?

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colouredin -> RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you? (10/19/2008 8:21:32 AM)
Im agreeing with everyone who says its just a way to say you are in a relationship, due to the nature of what we are into we just tend to use differant terms from boyfriend/girlfriend/partner but doesnt mean much diferant to me. I dotnt see being collared as overly dramatic either i think we put too much stock in stuff like that really, changing the word or title doesnt change the realtionship, adding a collar into the mix doesnt make the feelings more profound. If I am with a Dom i consider myself collared because I do as he tells me to do from the moment I agree to be in the relationship. Otherwise it seems a bit to me like holding out some part of you until its official or whatever, and just as i never wanted to wait til marriage for sex I dont wait till being given a collar to belong to someone

sailorfrank -> RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you? (10/19/2008 8:42:03 AM)
Taken: means to me unavalible to anyone else. My slave wont be shared with others, mostly to protect her. Owned: Body and Mind by me as I care for her in all ways mentally and pysically. She will surrender all to me her stress and anything troubling her. Her money is hers of course as is my own. But we do own each other for now and soon it will be more complete after training! Collared: Like others stated Very meaningful more so than marriage. For me it means two souls joined as one. Trust absolute between us, meaning no one else will come between us ever. She will serve me out of Trust and Love only not from fear of pain or threats!

NorthernGent -> RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you? (10/19/2008 8:59:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CelticPrince Here I go pondering again. Being constantly interested in the mix of our path walkers I, when time permits, review the stats on newcomers. both the "D"s and the "s"s for a general profile of who and why they have come to the path. Many time I come across an eyeopener of a supposed newcomer to the path and its concepts and bingo after 3 days on CM they are "owned" So what do the titles mean to you and clearly it is a question for both sides of the slash. CP When both parties reach an informed agreement on the terms of the relationship. 'Informed' is subjective, of course; for me it would be a period of getting to know one another (real time), at least 6 months, to give yourself a fighting chance that 'what you see is what you get', and 'what you get' is viable. Ownership requires a far greater degree of informed decision making and comittment to the relationship, than a 'let's start going out for a few weeks and see how it goes' scenario (i.e the usual approach to relationships).

NihilusZero -> RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you? (10/19/2008 9:41:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark It's just another way of 'saying' you are in a relationship. the.dark. Bingo. I'm actually surprised that the small uprising that usually happens revolving around a "i don't like labeling me or you!" mentality (when discussin, for instance, the 'definitions' of "slave" versus "sub") hasn't surfaced here when it's essentially the same thing: subjective interpretations of an act/word.

CelticPrince -> RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you? (10/19/2008 11:03:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NuevaVida I was owned. To me it meant, quite literally, that he owned me. That he had the ultimate authority on all decisions having to do with me - what I learned, what I did, where I went, who I hung out with, what I ate, where I spent my money - I could go on. Everything. If he didn't like my thoughts, he would work with me (manipulate?) to change them. He could use me or store me away. In short, he managed my life. It's too soon to say but I am doubtful I will give so much of myself over again. And if I do, it would be to someone who gave me more autonomy and authority over my life. My thoughts and feelings are not up for manipulation anymore, and I won't give them away like that. I tend to be really literal in my translations and I also tend to go to extremes with my experiences. I'm learning to find some better balance for myself. But that's what owned meant to me. I don't know what it means to me anymore; I don't really think about it. Collared was a symbolic measure of degree of ownership. I don't know what I think about that anymore, either, nor do I spend any energy on it. Taken? Eh. It's an emotional expression of being totally enthralled with someone. Being in a state of transition, I'm currently moving away from labels and their definitions, as I find they were pretty limiting for me. In time they may have meaning to me again. But right now, not so much. newlife, there is little in life than a strong relatioship gone sour as it causes us to want to not do that again; that said, it sounds like it was a really good thing while it was there! I do agree with your thoughts on "taken" CP

CelticPrince -> RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you? (10/19/2008 11:05:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: greyjay Very good discussion topic. I have owned one before, but it is not something I jumped into lightly. A true connection and love are required before I can even think about it. I think alot of people have the wrong idea in here. It takes more than a few days. It takes really getting to know each other. If it's an online or long distance realtionship, I would think it would take at least months to really get to that point. (Personally I can't imagine falling in love without first meeting the other person--its easy to not be yourself when you are typing) greyjay, Wise words indeed but what about the other criteria, Collared, taken? CP

CelticPrince -> RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you? (10/19/2008 11:07:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark It's just another way of 'saying' you are in a relationship. the.dark. dark, For all three? CP

CelticPrince -> RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you? (10/19/2008 11:11:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kiwisub12 I lived with my Sir for 8 months before he collared me. I was in a relationship with him before the collaring, the collaring formalised with us the degree of our relationship, and the depth of said relationship. For us, the collaring was akin to getting married in its symbolism and seriousness. At the time i really wanted the symbol - it made me more secure in how i felt about my Sir, and how he felt about me. Two years later, my Sir could take my collar off and it wouldn't bother me. I don't need the physical symbol any more. I have internalised the symbol. kiwi, So am I correct is saying you were taken for 8 months? and what of owned??? thanks for your input. CP

CelticPrince -> RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you? (10/19/2008 11:13:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: celticlord2112 quote: So what do the titles mean to you and clearly it is a question for both sides of the slash. When I "take" a slave, it means I accept her into my household--she becomes part of my life and part of my world. She agrees to be ruled, and I agree to rule. When I "collar" a slave, it means I will keep her in my household permanently--that whatever issues and challenges arise we will work through, and that I won't just put her out the door because she's pissed me off. Both are a part of "owning" a slave--which to me is the process of building and nurturing a relationship predicated on a power exchange dynamic. celticlord, Tis a fine explanation lad / thanks for your thoughts. CP

CelticPrince -> RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you? (10/19/2008 11:15:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JustDarkness quote: ORIGINAL: CelticPrince quote: ORIGINAL: JustDarkness I must love a girl or she must be a very very very good friend....before I even want her. With out that ..I don't want to own Darkness, Well that takes care of owned, what about collared and taken? Grins, CP lol you made me think :P unfair owned... collared..taken.... lovely words...and the same meaning to me..( I collar what I own...then I see her as taken) now I was thinking..when I use what word... I do use them differently..just don't know the reason yet.. JD, Well be sure to let us know when you know! grins CP

JustDarkness -> RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you? (10/19/2008 11:17:24 AM)
lol in time.. CP soemtimes I confuse myself..lol will take time..this answer..

CelticPrince -> RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you? (10/19/2008 11:18:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kallisto Taken - I see as a term loosely meaning a Dom has grabbed a sub's attention. A genuine showing of interest. Owned - A committment has been made between a Dom and sub. They are in a committed relationship to each other (whatever that relationship may be to them). Collared - Most times meaning an outward symbol of that committment, that others can see. However, there doesn't have to be any outward symbol of "being owned". It can simply rest in the hearts of those in the relationship. kallisto, congrats girl, your the first to diffenciate between the three! CP

CelticPrince -> RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you? (10/19/2008 11:21:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweedydaddy What women I choose to collar belong to me, where play is concerned, what they do with their husbands and lovers outside of my company is of course completely up to them. A girl in a collar belongs to me when she is in my company and I will do what I like with her, which usually involves either dress up and spanking or undress and a few hours on a leash. LadyLove is a tad more possessive, but her slaves are pretty damn loyal and I respect that. tdaddy, The image of you racing down the back steps dodging 9mm's does come to mind. CP

greeneyes600 -> RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you? (10/19/2008 11:57:17 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JustDarkness I must love a girl or she must be a very very very good friend....before I even want her. With out that ..I don't want to own For me, thats how it should be, otherwise its worthless

leadership527 -> RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you? (10/19/2008 1:18:55 PM)
Hold on, let my consult my handy dandy quick reference.... Oh yeah, there we go.. Taken: bright red hanky, upper right Owned: black hanky, lower right Collared: blue hanky, tied around neck In my mind, they all mean "I'm in the relationship of my lifetime... this week"

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you? (10/19/2008 2:52:34 PM)
Reposted: Generally, ownership is considered a state of being within a relationship. Collared generally tends to be a statement of going through a specific act of having a collar placed upon you. But, many people consider themselves collared without the element of ownership, and many people consider themselves owned without ever putting on a collar. http://www.collarchat.com/m_972728/mpage_1/key_collared/tm.htm#973007 collared vs owned http://www.collarchat.com/m_498653/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#498670 The Coveted and Legendary Collar http://www.collarchat.com/m_531609/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#531610 Collaring vs Wearing a collar http://www.collarchat.com/m_547321/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#547475 The meaning of a collar http://www.collarchat.com/m_485613/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#485797 Please share with me (what being collared means to you) http://www.collarchat.com/tm.asp?m=427111&mpage=1&key=collaring&#427257 being collared http://www.collarchat.com/tm.asp?m=410988&mpage=1&key=collaring&#411019 public collar http://www.collarchat.com/m_291301/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#291301 Collar vs Wedding Ring http://www.collarchat.com/m_287566/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#287566 Another Question Regarding the Collar http://www.collarchat.com/tm.asp?m=323687&mpage=1&key=collaring&#323702 collars (2) http://www.collarchat.com/m_287140/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#287140 Collar http://www.collarchat.com/m_264867/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#264867 Sub Thoughts on collars http://www.collarchat.com/m_248345/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#248345 collar before love http://www.collarchat.com/m_247668/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#247668 ring or collar, what's the difference? http://www.collarchat.com/m_219135/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#219135 What does a collar mean? http://www.collarchat.com/m_190240/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#190240 collar or what else? http://www.collarchat.com/m_187244/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#187244 Accepting a collar http://www.collarchat.com/m_184946/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#184946 Timeframe for a Collar? http://www.collarchat.com/m_177155/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#177155 collar (2) http://www.collarchat.com/m_165733/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#165733 collars http://www.collarchat.com/m_151638/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#151638 Collar Ceremony http://www.collarchat.com/m_150934/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#150934 Losing the Collar http://www.collarchat.com/m_132702/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#132702 From chat to collar http://www.collarchat.com/m_124898/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#124898 Wearing training collar in public http://www.collarchat.com/m_81449/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#81449 What are the collar types/levels please? http://www.collarchat.com/m_80281/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#80281 When is the right time to collar? http://www.collarchat.com/m_70392/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#70392 Collars and collaring http://www.collarchat.com/m_61337/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#61337 Collar conundrum? http://www.collarchat.com/m_59686/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#59686 Color of collars? http://www.collarchat.com/m_55592/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#55592 Collars when? http://www.collarchat.com/m_27368/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#27368 Kind of a collar question? http://www.collarchat.com/m_11451/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#11451 Collaring a submissive? http://www.collarchat.com/m_428/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#428 What is your definition of a training collar? http://www.collarchat.com/m_402/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#402 Multiple collars or single collar?

IvyMorgan -> RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you? (10/19/2008 3:49:13 PM)
Well... (fast reply not having read the rest of the thread - bad Ivy) Currently I am "taken" in that I and the other side of the slash are talking about and considering the possibility of a relationship and what that would entail. Should we decide that there will be a relationship, then I would be "owned" by them, in that, I will be "theirs", I will not be shared with others, I will do what they ask, and we'll all be considering me their (joint) property. Then, on the flip side, collared is what I am in a club so that a)bondage is easier and b)gropey men might at least ask the person with me if they can do X as opposed to asking me, because the person with me is a whole lot better at being assertive with a "no" than I am, and I invariably don't want to be covered in cream/moisturised/have my feet worshipped etc c)someone bought me a pretty thing and have told me to wear it/I wear it to please them. Yes, I guess there is collared as a statement of a long term commitment in a relationship, but, that is a far away and still intabgilbe idea in m y young head, so, let's not dwell on that one yet. We'll talk about taken, and move on to owned first... should this survive my going to uni (which is only a year away now) for (3?) years... who knows. Collared would mean part of their lives and them part of mine, although not necessarily defining the way in which we are part of each others lives. (I could be collared but now owned, for example.)

CelticPrince -> RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you? (10/19/2008 4:02:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: masterofdrkness2 collar, own and taken all have the same meaning to me ...I am not one who just randomly collars anyone.. took me 3 years to collar wenchy ,to me it is the same as being married . some thing I wont be rushed into , it is a lasting commitment from me . as LadyPact said ... they have become family ..... to the op I have seen some get collared in under 3 hours lol masterofdrk, Ahmen to the 3 hours thing, I just hope the new comers read the boards. CP

CelticPrince -> RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you? (10/19/2008 4:06:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Padriag What do they mean... to many these days, apparently not very much. I must confess, they don't mean nearly as much nor the same as they once did to me. I tend to view owner ship today... of anything... as that which I can keep, hold onto, claim, etc. through my own means. If it can be taken away from me, it was never really mine. For example... do I own my home... no, the bank does and if I missed some mortgage payments they'd probably remind me of that. When I pay the mortgage off then I can really say I own it. Do I own my own businesses... for now, but only so long as I'm clever enough and hard working enough to maintain that... it isn't permanent. Do other's own "slaves"... I dunno... if they can be taken away from you, seduced by someone else, etc... then I would say that ownership was very much an illusion. If on the otherhand they remain with you regardless of circumstance or enticements... you might make a good argument that you own them. For me ownership comes down to what you can actively possess and hold on to. Anyone can claim to own something. Many can take things. But far fewer can claim or take something and hold on to it... those are the ones who "own." Padriag, An interesting analysis!!! CP

sublizzie -> RE: Taken, Owned, Collar / meanings to you? (10/19/2008 7:46:31 PM)
~fr~ For me, taken meant I was seriously considering a long-term relationship with someone and was not looking for anyone else. Collared meant that he put his seal on me and was serious about being my Dominant. Owned is something we are working toward together. We've been together a year. Getting to a place where he feels comfortable owning me and I'm comfortable being owned is going to take a little more time. But that's the end goal.

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