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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic
Life does keep coming at us, Kitten.  Somebody has to go to work and all that.

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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou
Of course it helps that I am so damn cute. 

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ORIGINAL: corysub

If I have offended anyone personally here, it certainly was not my purpose, and I apologize.  We get passionate about our views and, at times, the chat can get kinda contentious.  I believe that we all care deeply about our political views, right or left...middle of the road, or whatever. I assume everyone here is an adult and the language we use to express our emotions is simply that..."words". 

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

I see a desperate people desperate for relief.

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I really don't give a fuck.

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

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ORIGINAL: corysub

If I have offended anyone personally here, it certainly was not my purpose, and I apologize.  We get passionate about our views and, at times, the chat can get kinda contentious.  I believe that we all care deeply about our political views, right or left...middle of the road, or whatever. I assume everyone here is an adult and the language we use to express our emotions is simply that..."words". 

cory,
Never worry about your beliefs offending. Whether you are labeled Conservative or liberal to suit an opposing argument focus on the facts. Few here respond to questions. Even fewer address pragmatic facts in opposition. Better instead to name call and ridicule or debate critical nuances of language. Appreciate a label or being called a name for what it is; admission that there is no counter argument. Don't fall into the trap of doing the same.

As to the debates on CM they stop being productive when the vocal majority only have rhetoric as a resonse or 'good intent' as an excuse. Should Senator Obama prevail in November you'll see an Administration run based upon those ideals. Combined with a socialist agenda majority in Congress and it will be a dangerous situation.

However, you, me and anyone else can only be absolutely correct in hindsight. There were no WMD's discovered in Iraq so that reason to go to war in Iraq was wrong. There were others that proved correct; Saddam's people shredder for instance, however why be happy or have ended that torture at the expense of supporting a President you dislike? Better to focus only on the facts supporting your stance.

Pragmatism has no place in the social agenda sought by those supporting the socialist agenda of Senator Obama. Giving money to people doesn't invigorate them or make them productive; it makes them lazy and expectant. If entitlements worked, there'd be nobody on welfare, let alone generations of welfare families. Expanding failure seems to be the goal and since we, as a government, have been rewarding it at both the corporate and individual levels; maybe Obama is the right choice in two weeks. His policies in place will expand failure to previously unrealized depths.

Standing on the need for more taxes, more regulation, more social engineering, and redistribution of income; seems to be a winning scheme thus far. Apparently there is a core of US citizens believing the the government should control your income, your ability to earn income, what you hear on the radio, the transportation you use, the fuel you use, and the community you live. All are the problematic results of implementing the Obama campaign platform. Just today Senator Bingaman of New Mexico verbalized that the government should control what is on the radio: http://www.breitbart.tv/html/203333.html 

Meanwhile, the socialist candidate lives by the soviet model. A man of the people living the elitist life: http://www.breitbart.tv/html/203333.html Based upon what I see on the streets of LA; Obama as messiah posters, Obama votive candles, Obama tee shirts; I see a desperate people desperate for relief. Unfortunately they are so desperate they are willing to give up liberties, freedom, and self determination to achieve a relief that will come in the form of having no choice and no potential for self sufficiency. They are voting to rely on the government to make them comfortable and feel better. Who among us reliant on the government has ever achieved contentment?

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Reading some of the responses here,you get the feeling perhaps the wrong conservative got moderated....
Merc,I truly appreciated your mention of stopping Saddam's torture,so much better when we do it ourselves huh?Abu Ghraib ring a bell Merc.

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Reading some of the responses here,you get the feeling perhaps the wrong conservative got moderated....
Merc,I truly appreciated your mention of stopping Saddam's torture,so much better when we do it ourselves huh?Abu Ghraib ring a bell Merc.

I was thinking more of how there is genocide in Darfur, but that isn't our problem... I suppose that the lack of oil in Sudan makes those human rights abuses less egregious than those of Saddam...

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ORIGINAL: mrbob726

I hand it to you, Mercnbeth - this is right on. You said what I would have said if I were more articulate. Few people outside of the chicago area, and even many in it, simply have no idea of the real agenda of the person they are supporting, and have a closed mind to the facts.

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

I was thinking more of how there is genocide in Darfur, but that isn't our problem... I suppose that the lack of oil in Sudan makes those human rights abuses less egregious than those of Saddam...

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This entire post comes from a McCain stump speech... that is "pragmatic facts" for ya... yeah right

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My Daddy wanted me to add on edit...

"You mean the way the Republican president George W Bush nationalized the banking system with McCain's support isn't socialist?" ~ Sinergy

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Reading some of the responses here,you get the feeling perhaps the wrong conservative got moderated....
Merc,I truly appreciated your mention of stopping Saddam's torture,so much better when we do it ourselves huh?Abu Ghraib ring a bell Merc.