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JohnnyCanuck -> RE: Gay marriage (10/23/2008 4:56:02 PM)
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ORIGINAL: kdsub
Johnny I do understand what you are saying....But... there was an error in nature... The normal brain as determined by nature needs a man to desire a woman...just so the species can reproduce. There is a mistake that short-circuits this development in gays. I did not say it was bad...just a mistake of nature.
Same with the body...a truly gay man is a woman in a mans body. In some cases everything gets messed up both physically and mentally. They are mistakes at least compared with the norm.
I am not using mistake in a derogatory way…maybe another term like outside the norm would be better…but silly.
Butch
I think I see the cause for confusion.
You are viewing this from the macro level: for the species to continue there must be offspring, anything that prevents that is a "mistake".
I do not share that point of view.
First off the idea of survival of a species does not mean every member of the species must propagate. Only enough to replace those who are lost.
As there will never be a perfect harmony of 1:1 replacement, there will always be some who have more than enough, and some who have none.
I see no reason to argue that homosexuality is not one of the ways in which this balance is struck.
As for being a woman trapped in a man's body, I must object to that point of view as well.
It is entrenched in the social belief that only men find women attractive, and vice versa.
What do we make of societies where homosexuality was not viewed as an aberration: such as Athenian society?
Do we say an entire society of people existed where women were trapped in men's bodies?
We live in a heterosexual-centric society where all paradigms start with the assumption that boy meets girl, boy marries girl.
Remove the ~cultural~ bias and review the beliefs: there is precious little to support them outside the bias.
Thus I refuse to view any gender preference as an "error" because the basis for that judgment is cultural, not biological.
There is no biological evidence to support the belief that ~all~ members of a species must prefer members of the opposite gender. The survival of a species does not require such an adaptation. It is enough to replace those that are lost, and not all need propagate to accomplish this.
And if you wish to argue that someone truly gay is a person trapped in the body of the opposite gender, how do you explain femme lesbians?
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