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Men who dont like Dominant women - 10/27/2008 3:03:01 PM   
AllforFun


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Now, as I subbie I really enjoy Dominant women and I truly understand the meaning of the word.
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Recently, I was at work and a guy I have worked with quite a bit, who does make chauvinist comments quite a bit, refused to help a Director because she was, "Too Dominant" and he couldnt stomach it. Needless to say, I very nearly couldnt stomach his reaction. I know this Director and I really like her. She is very sweet and is always extremely nice, definately NOT what I would call Dominant with the exception that she has a job to do and gets it done.

What kills me is that our boss is a woman and its always "yes, Ma'am" and "Right away, Ma'am" to which I stand in a corner grining ear to ear (I tease him about it later). I thought this "I dont like dominant women" crap was just that, crap. That is until last week.

This got me wondering.... are there really guys who really believe this crap? I dont mean someone who makes a smart remark in  a machismo way to get attention (which I sometimes do to provoke the "I'll show you" reaction".lol), but in a serious way. I work in a field which is by no means dominated by women and the common attitude amongst the guys is to treat them like crap. Over the last year, I have made it very clear that I will go above and beyond to show them anything they want to know. I think I get viewed as a "traitor" for this, but in my heart I know its right.


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RE: Men who dont like Dominant women - 10/27/2008 3:15:19 PM   
Lockit


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Status: offline 		I took over my ex's business or our business that he ran... I made the men tow the line and work because I paid them well, but they couldn't stomach working for a woman or taking orders from them.  Tough... I told them I would go to the local welfare office and find single mother's who would have no problem working for a woman and accepting the good pay.  They towed the line, but hated me, I know.  When I took over, I would walk in and the business men would see me right out there working along side the men and would get this weird lil smile... something between... respect and I'd do that... lol  That's okay... I used that too. 

Things have changed a lot, but in the beginning it seemed like you were titled bitch and out of place at that.  Anyone so stuck in the history of women entering the work force and doing well... well... they remind me of a guy reading porns on the toilet, redneck, uneducated and socially backwards... hehe... I guess I have my attitudes too!  Don't fuck'em... they do a fine job of that themselves. lol

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RE: Men who dont like Dominant women - 10/27/2008 3:23:01 PM   
HelenaTroy


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Status: offline 		Discrimination against women in the workplace is very real, especially if the woman is intelligent and pretty - a double threat. If she's too pretty they won't take her seriously, and if she's too smart then she is considered a threat. And the pretty girls don't get promoted. No male manager wants to be the one to promote the pretty girl in the office, because everyone will talk. Most of the time she'll get passed over for promotions and handed the "busy work" projects which the men don't want to do. The men get handed the projects that will make them shine. In order to get ahead, women have to be ruthless bitches. They have to demand those sweet projects and they have to demand respect. They'll get accused of being a bitch and also of being hormonal. I know its better than it used to be, though, but it's still a big problem. 

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RE: Men who dont like Dominant women - 10/27/2008 3:36:10 PM   
VampiresLair


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Status: offline 		I run a department and get it alot. Whenever I make a judgment call, my customers want to talk to a manager because they are men and I am not. Sad thing is, this doesnt only come from men. There are women who also question a female in authority because they believe a man could be doing a better job.
Personally, I dont give much of a damn about who gives me shit at work, and my managers back me 100% but I still hate having to go to them just to have them tell the customer that my word is law in the photo department.
I have had to dimiss technicians for deciding that they knew how to run my lab better than I did and saying things like its "man's work" and the like. I told them I woudnt have that sort of attitude in my lab, and they laughed. It wasnt as funny when they found themselves back at front register ringing up customers. I told them they were lucky I didnt have their asses tranfered to cosmetics.

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RE: Men who dont like Dominant women - 10/27/2008 3:41:01 PM   
Lockit


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Status: offline 		ROFL VampiresLair!  Love the cosmetic's comment!

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RE: Men who dont like Dominant women - 10/27/2008 3:50:21 PM   
StrictnSaucy


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Status: offline 		In my experience as a female, at mid-management there was alot of oppostion from both men and women.  In later years as I became more senior it declined alot.

I think alot of men felt threatened and it took time to get used to a new management style (male dominated industry).  I enjoyed the challenge!

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RE: Men who dont like Dominant women - 10/27/2008 3:55:33 PM   
LadyConstanze


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Status: offline 		It winds me up no end if guys seriously have an attitude problem about working for a woman, unfortunately it happens a lot, less than maybe a decade ago but still.

What has my gender got to do with my brain? Essentially I think those guys have a massive self-esteem problem and being a woman and possibly better educated or qualified than they are really freaks them out.

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RE: Men who dont like Dominant women - 10/27/2008 4:05:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		I call them Republicans...

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RE: Men who dont like Dominant women - 10/27/2008 4:30:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AllforFun

Disclaimer:
Now, as I subbie I really enjoy Dominant women and I truly understand the meaning of the word.
/Disclaimer

Recently, I was at work and a guy I have worked with quite a bit, who does make chauvinist comments quite a bit, refused to help a Director because she was, "Too Dominant" and he couldnt stomach it. Needless to say, I very nearly couldnt stomach his reaction. I know this Director and I really like her. She is very sweet and is always extremely nice, definately NOT what I would call Dominant with the exception that she has a job to do and gets it done.

What kills me is that our boss is a woman and its always "yes, Ma'am" and "Right away, Ma'am" to which I stand in a corner grining ear to ear (I tease him about it later). I thought this "I dont like dominant women" crap was just that, crap. That is until last week.

This got me wondering.... are there really guys who really believe this crap? I dont mean someone who makes a smart remark in  a machismo way to get attention (which I sometimes do to provoke the "I'll show you" reaction".lol), but in a serious way. I work in a field which is by no means dominated by women and the common attitude amongst the guys is to treat them like crap. Over the last year, I have made it very clear that I will go above and beyond to show them anything they want to know. I think I get viewed as a "traitor" for this, but in my heart I know its right.





Yes, there are genuinely many men that just plain don't like dominant women.

Heck, there are many that just don't like competent women, especially in regards to jobs.

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RE: Men who dont like Dominant women - 10/27/2008 4:44:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: OttersSwim

I call them Republicans...



I dunno, I thought their wet dream would be Palin in a bikini, killing lots of mooses before "forcing" them into body worship

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RE: Men who dont like Dominant women - 10/27/2008 5:22:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've been called a bitch at work, by men and women alike. But that always seems to go away when they realize i am the one who actually cares and will be able to get something done. I do think the fact that i love football and can talk the talk with sports helps a bit. I have also shown i can snake a toilet, run a weedeater, or install insulation (none of this is my job in any way, but sometimes you just need to step up and do it). When i was younger i did alot more of those "masculine" things because i felt i had to prove i was as tough as the guys. As i have gotten older, i don't feel that need anymore, and i have no problem batting my eyelashes at someone and giving the special smile if it means they will do the dirty work :)

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RE: Men who dont like Dominant women - 10/27/2008 7:39:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have two signs in my office......... one says "this is not burger king, you will not get it your way, you will get it my way or you won't get it."  the other one says " that's Ms. Bitch to you".
I have been in middle to upper managment in male dominanted fields all my life. I have been treated very well, and other times, very poorly.... it goes with the job. I have owned my own business's for year and years, I treat everyone equally based on their job performance not their gender. If people can't handle working with me or for me, then so be it, their loss.

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RE: Men who dont like Dominant women - 10/27/2008 7:55:19 PM   
mummyman321


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Status: offline 		LOL.....I love the Burger King sign!!!! That is hillarious. I need to make one up for work tomorrow. My Boss will flip his lid when he sees it. You just made my day!.....thanks

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RE: Men who dont like Dominant women - 10/27/2008 7:56:18 PM   
Lashra


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Status: offline 		He is insecure is all and feels threatened by her. There are quite a few men out there like that unfortunately. I've had a few cross my path over the years and they are very hostile, for usually no reason other than their own fear.

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RE: Men who dont like Dominant women - 10/27/2008 8:04:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		i don't know crap about cars except how to change a tire and roll down a window, but i've been asked to accompany a female friend to the mechanic so she doesn't get screwed over.


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RE: Men who dont like Dominant women - 10/27/2008 8:58:35 PM   
ShaktiSama


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Status: offline 		I'll ditto DL's post in spades. Women are just as guilty as men of being unable to cope with female authority or even equality--sometimes much more so than men. Nothing makes me more ill than having some simpering vanilla-sub twat refuse to listen just because the person speaking doesn't have a penis. I don't even particularly have to be in authority--I can just be offering information because I know the answer to a question. The freaking idiots will deliberately ignore me and continue to seek out a cock to tell them the same thing--or something incorrect, but preferable because it comes from a mouthpiece for the XY chromosome pair.

Whether men or women do it, misogyny is sickening and deeply entrenched. Being unable to listen to a female boss or a female peer is a sign of serious mental illness. These people need help.

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RE: Men who dont like Dominant women - 10/28/2008 5:58:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		That's funny... I call them Democrats.  They fear Bikini Sara.

There are women smokejumpers out there.  That is one place you don't go unless you earned it.

"Type A" personalities clash with "Type A" personalities.  Men learn to have a confrontation, hash things out. put it behind them and get on with it.  We're not to sure the same dynamic works when a woman enters the equation. 

This guy has a clear idea how to deal with a woman boss; but, he has no idea how to proceed with a woman as an equal.  As I said above, "Type A"....  You get the idea.

It's been said that a Domme and a Dom can't live together.  I can't say on way or the other; but. I have observed an exquisite tension in those situations.

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RE: Men who dont like Dominant women - 10/28/2008 6:22:26 AM   
LadyConstanze


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Status: offline 		Funny, I am not a Democrat and I fear Palin, well, not exactly her, just the effect somebody like her could have on the world...

I think a Domme and a Dom can live very well together, there is that thing called mutual respect, works quite well

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RE: Men who dont like Dominant women - 10/28/2008 7:14:36 AM   
cjan


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Status: offline 		I think competence, intelligence and self-assertiveness is equally attractive in both genders. I also think it is particularly sexy in women in the work place. They are also qualities that I appreciate in submissives, btw. It's the doormats and needy that I have no interest in.

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RE: Men who dont like Dominant women - 10/28/2008 7:16:28 AM   
Live4ServeYOU


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Status: offline 		Fear = hate = overcompensation= these dudes

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