LadyEllen
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i did not say that businesses should not pay taxes. but it is not right to pay such high taxes! smaller government means lower taxes. giving to charity should be choice not forced.
I dont know of anyone that gladly pays the full tax burden placed on them in order to fund the services we all need in order to live as social animals in our societies. But I equally dont know of anyone with any sense that thinks these services are in any way charitable giving, or that they would spontaneously arise from out of nothing were they not funded by taxation. The money has to come from somewhere - the only debating point is how much from where and what we as societies democratically deem worthwhile or needful to spend money on for the common benefit.
Our country tried for a long time with low taxes and relied otherwise on charitable giving. It didnt work - there was not enough tax revenue and charitable giving did not fill the gaps. That indeed is why we are where we are, with the decision being made long ago that for the common benefit, we all had to pay more in tax. Guess what, the country didnt collapse because of it, the economy adjusted and now we have all the things that are so desperately needed in the US to make up for the growing disparities found there.
Are there a proportion of the population who are indolent, stupid, fraudulent and otherwise ne'er do wells who exploit the system? For sure there are and I will rant and rave about them and what needs to be done to make sure they contribute. But would I swap our system for the old way on those grounds? Absolutely not.
And the reason is simple - and indeed staring us all in the face as we enter what might be a depression; shit can happen to anyone, anytime and most of us are only one or two paychecks from being in that shit up to our eyeballs. When that happens, it doesnt matter what qualifications, experience, drive or determination you have, it happens and it doesnt matter either how much effort you put in at your job or business it can still happen because just as my success can be attributed to others all around me, the failure of those others can just as easily become my failure without me having set a foot wrong.
Like it or not, we are all in this together and to look out for others less fortunate is to look out for yourself too when you join their ranks. In the presence of a system such as ours, I'm not going to be well off when shit happens to me, but at least I will have somewhere to live, something to eat and healthcare available to me under a social contract which however much it hurts to pay for it, however much it is abused by the undeserving, is a most valuable thing - whose value only becomes apparent when its needed.
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