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....(clipped for brevity)....Female fantasy Women engage in sexual fantasies about rape or coercion with apparent frequency. In one study of college-age women, over half had engaged in such fantasies. Some claim that force fantasies in women are a way of handling sexual guilt -- of expressing sexual desire without responsibility -- but others claim that rape fantasies are simply a variation within a normal range of approaches to female sexuality. [3] (Source:  Wikipedia)

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ORIGINAL: GirlGenius

TO ROVER, JOHN, BLGIRL, ANGELA-

I am deeply dissapointed that you feel you can speak for, "most" or "70%" of women, where you have decided based on whatever personal experience you have that, that a rape fantasy is that common.

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who the H** do you think you are?

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You don't get to prescribe what you think the world thinks. Since it is scientifically impossible to have been with 70% of ALL WOMEN, you don't really get the right to say what they want.

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Rape fantasies are in my experience rare.

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I hate that you said these things. It bothers me that you think you know so much, when clearly what you are saying is 100% impossible to prove.

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Please think about the statements you have made and wonder why a woman like me would be totally 100% in disagreement with you.

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I find your comments wrong, irresponsible, and ignorant and even possibly, subversive and hurtful to people.

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ORIGINAL: GirlGenius

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ORIGINAL: Rover

I believe that rape fantasies constitute the most common sexual fantasy amongst all women. 

I'm just curious, but can you prove this flagrantly unprovable statement?

AND you're a man, so how is it you think you can make this statement?

Did I say, "I believe that castration fantasies constitute the most common sexual fantasy amongst ALL men"..

our sexual fantasies are great, but when you feel you can make such an egregiously irresposonsible statement for "all women", that's where you set off the like of women like me.

You don't get to speak for women.

 
Here we go....He said he "believes"...commonly known as an opinion. Your opinion differs. No need to attack his. That's the joys of the world....everyone has their own opinions.

(in reply to GirlGenius)

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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

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....(clipped for brevity)....Female fantasy Women engage in sexual fantasies about rape or coercion with apparent frequency.

Hi GirlGenuis,

I'm not sure where the animosity comes from, and part of me wants to just hug you because I wonder if your anger isn't somewhat misplaced.
(HUGS)
WinD

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I hate that you said these things. It bothers me that you think you know so much, when clearly what you are saying is 100% impossible to prove.

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You don't get to prescribe what you think the world thinks. Since it is scientifically impossible to have been with 70% of ALL WOMEN, you don't really get the right to say what they want.

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Rape fantasies are in my experience rare.

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I find your comments wrong, irresponsible, and ignorant and even possibly, subversive and hurtful to people.

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ORIGINAL: Pseudonomic

GirlGenius, I am a new poster on here but I felt I must take sides with the accused in your posts.

No, Rover does not get to "prescribe what the world thinks" but yes, he very well may do some simple research.

"...Person reports that 44 percent of men have had fantasies of dominating a partner. Other studies found that 51 percent of women fantasized about being forced to have sex,..."
http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/pto-1268.html

"A recent analysis of 20 studies over the last 30 years indicates that between 31% and 57% of women have rape fantasies, and these fantasies are frequent or preferred in 9% to 17% of women."
http://blogs.psychologytoday.com/blog/brainstorm/200805/why-do-women-have-erotic-rape-fantasies

"...An inspection of prevalence across decades reveals that studies published in the 1970s show prevalence rates ranging from 36% to 49%; studies from the 1980 s show prevalence rates ranging from 31% to 57%; studies from the 1990s show prevalence rates ranging from 36% to 55%; and the study from the 2000s shows a 34% rate...."
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Women%27s+erotic+rape+fantasies:+an+evaluation+of+theory+and+research.-a0176374283

While Rover's percentage may be off, he is still right in saying that according to scientific research, rape fantasies are a rather common sexual fantasy. Those three examples above are just what I found in five minutes of research. If you would prefer, as I am a psychology student at a major university, I could hit the Stacks and conduct a formal literature review. My prediction would be that I would find rather similar information.

You view points are valid, your attacks are not. He/they made a post giving their opinion, and very little harm comes from that. I highly doubt that their comments are subversive or dangerous. The overwhelming majority knows to take what people say with a grain of salt on this forum.

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ORIGINAL: Pseudonomic

While Rover's percentage may be off, he is still right in saying that according to scientific research, rape fantasies are a rather common sexual fantasy. Those three examples above are just what I found in five minutes of research. If you would prefer, as I am a psychology student at a major university, I could hit the Stacks and conduct a formal literature review. My prediction would be that I would find rather similar information.

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ORIGINAL: MistressOfGa

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It's surprising the number of men who have that fantasy, too.  Of course, a woman can't use brute strength to overpower him, so she needs to use a prop, such as knife, to "subdue" him, and . . . and . . . I have to go lie down now.

Venatrix,
Who says a woman can't use "brute strength"? When I engage in this type of role playing, it is all out "Mr. and Mrs. Smith" style. There are no holds barred. It is, of course, agreed upon, and safe words are firmly in place for both of us, before we even begin. I have never been one to go half way with something I love doing. I feel fortunate that I have had play partners who have the same passion about it as I do.


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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

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ORIGINAL: manxcat
No offense taken, but having been raped and almost murdered, not on my hit list.  Before that though it was.  The reality took all the fun out of it, even as a perpetrator, in fantasyland.

Having been in the same situation, I was surprised that I was eventually able to overcome it and enjoy it again.  I never thought that would happen, it just seemed inconceivable to me, and I know for a lot of people, it will never happen.


Cali

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ORIGINAL: Pseudonomic

My apologies, I misinterpreted when another person lumped all of your posts and BLgirl's posts together.

Although, in my defense, I was in your defense.

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Yes, MoGa, you're absolutely right that a woman *could* use brute strength.  I confess that I was thinking in terms of my own experience.  I rarely play with men who are smaller than I am, as I'm simply not attracted to them, and even though I lift weights several times a week, a man my size or larger could still inflict a fair amount of damage on me if he inadvertently fought back, and I think the potential for a man to want to struggle physically with an adversary who is approximately the same size or smaller might be high. 

Using psychological control, such as a knife (dipped in wax to dull the blade, but the dear lad doesn't need to know that), adds, for me, a delightful note of terror to the scene, reducing (I hope) the risk of either one of us sustaining a serious injury.  A few scratches or bruises on either side would be fine, but I'd like to avoid breaking anything.  Your comments emphasise to me what I enjoy most about BDSM:  that there are several ways to approach a scene, depending on what the parties feel comfortable with.

I love the way you think. I have read past comments from you and have had reactions from wincing in pain to laughing my ass off. No doubt you are much more sadistic than I am lol (Although my KoKo may disagree!)

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ORIGINAL: BLGirl

I absolutely love rape play. The struggle, pain, and eventual humiliation involved, is fabulous and afterward there is a calm like no other.
Does anyone else enjoy this type of play, or am I more of a freak than I realize?
 
(Note: Before anyone that has been sexually assaulted gets offended by the aforementioned, let me say that I too have been sexually assaulted. Therefore, no offense is intended.)
 
BLGirl

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I believe that rape fantasies constitute the most common sexual fantasy amongst all women.  So you have plenty of company.
 
John