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BLGirl -> Thoughts on Rape Play? (10/31/2008 9:50:48 PM)

I absolutely love rape play. The struggle, pain, and eventual humiliation involved, is fabulous and afterward there is a calm like no other.
Does anyone else enjoy this type of play, or am I more of a freak than I realize?
 
(Note: Before anyone that has been sexually assaulted gets offended by the aforementioned, let me say that I too have been sexually assaulted. Therefore, no offense is intended.)
 
BLGirl



Rover -> RE: Thoughts on Rape Play? (10/31/2008 10:23:47 PM)

I believe that rape fantasies constitute the most common sexual fantasy amongst all women.  So you have plenty of company.
 
John



Venatrix -> RE: Thoughts on Rape Play? (10/31/2008 10:26:46 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Rover

I believe that rape fantasies constitute the most common sexual fantasy amongst all women.  So you have plenty of company.
 
John


It's surprising the number of men who have that fantasy, too.  Of course, a woman can't use brute strength to overpower him, so she needs to use a prop, such as knife, to "subdue" him, and . . . and . . . I have to go lie down now.



BLGirl -> RE: Thoughts on Rape Play? (10/31/2008 10:30:25 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Rover

I believe that rape fantasies constitute the most common sexual fantasy amongst all women.  So you have plenty of company.
 
John


All of my training tells me this is so (I believe it stands at 70% of women), but have never actually talked to one who admitted it. Thank you for the reassurance. Do you enjoy rape play as a Dominant?

BLGirl (Angela)



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Thoughts on Rape Play? (10/31/2008 10:35:28 PM)

http://www.collarchat.com/m_1120310/mpage_1/key_rape/tm.htm#1120316
Do you really feel scared in rape play?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_754129/mpage_1/key_rape/tm.htm#754370
Rape Fantasies

http://www.collarchat.com/m_533332/mpage_1/key_rape/tm.htm#533553
Rape Fantaies- How do you do them?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_406675/mpage_1/key_rape/tm.htm#406833
Rape Scenarios

http://www.collarchat.com/m_336357/mpage_1/key_force%252Cplay/tm.htm#336362
Fighting back

http://www.collarchat.com/m_257243/mpage_1/key_force%252Cplay/tm.htm#257283
Fighting back for fun!

http://www.collarchat.com/m_157286/mpage_1/key_force%252Cplay/tm.htm#157426
Fighting Back

http://www.collarchat.com/m_139472/mpage_1/key_force%252Cplay/tm.htm#139477
A challenging submissive

http://www.collarchat.com/m_110661/mpage_1/key_force%252Cplay/tm.htm#110673
Force

http://www.collarchat.com/m_76392/mpage_1/key_force%2Cplay/tm.htm
The premise of forced play

http://www.collarchat.com/m_214517/mpage_1/key_primal/tm.htm#214524
Releasing the beast within

http://www.collarchat.com/m_153621/mpage_1/key_primal/tm.htm#153823
Rage




Rover -> RE: Thoughts on Rape Play? (10/31/2008 10:38:54 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BLGirl

quote:

ORIGINAL: Rover

I believe that rape fantasies constitute the most common sexual fantasy amongst all women.  So you have plenty of company.
 
John


All of my training tells me this is so (I believe it stands at 70% of women), but have never actually talked to one who admitted it. Thank you for the reassurance. Do you enjoy rape play as a Dominant?

BLGirl (Angela)


I can take it or leave it... pretty much how I feel about most B/D and S/M.  It's not the particular activity itself that interests me... it's the control. 
 
John



rexrgisformidoni -> RE: Thoughts on Rape Play? (10/31/2008 10:40:41 PM)

I have an Ex girlfriend who is vanilla as hell and she liked to be "surprised" by a sudden "intruder". Of course after about 2 minutes when her clothes where in tatters, she started to giggle and then got me laughing it was ruined, but that and doing a very detailed kidnap rp are something I find very appealing. 



WhiplashSmile2 -> RE: Thoughts on Rape Play? (10/31/2008 10:41:28 PM)

I love rape play!



NormalOutside -> RE: Thoughts on Rape Play? (10/31/2008 10:45:40 PM)

I don't need to "play" to get what I need, but as Rover said, control is really what many dominant people are after, and like sadism, "dress up", and roleplays, it can have a purpose.



manxcat -> RE: Thoughts on Rape Play? (10/31/2008 10:53:15 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BLGirl

I absolutely love rape play. The struggle, pain, and eventual humiliation involved, is fabulous and afterward there is a calm like no other.
Does anyone else enjoy this type of play, or am I more of a freak than I realize?
 
(Note: Before anyone that has been sexually assaulted gets offended by the aforementioned, let me say that I too have been sexually assaulted. Therefore, no offense is intended.)
 
BLGirl



No offense taken, but having been raped and almost murdered, not on my hit list.  Before that though it was.  The reality took all the fun out of it, even as a perpetrator, in fantasyland.
By the number of links to previous threads, it is obviously a common fantasy.  Enjoy.



antipode -> RE: Thoughts on Rape Play? (11/1/2008 12:35:16 AM)

Having helped and supported a very good friend who was brutally raped on Long Island, together with another girl who committed suicide, the perpetrators getting away with it in Court because neither girl had actually said "No", it isn't high on the list of things I'll suggest as "fun". I am not uneducated, but I was taken aback at the level of violence involved here - I o realize that varies.

The one time I did do the part, with a sub from Europe, I was told afterwards that, even though she used the word, she hadn't actually meant "rape", but "forced sex". Got lost in the translation - even though we both speak both English and several European languages. She was a good sport, though, and endured the entire thing to its close...



moonvine -> RE: Thoughts on Rape Play? (11/1/2008 12:38:17 AM)

This is a really squicky area for me.  That doesn't mean anything about you though, just means this is something that I don't enjoy.  Or enjoy the thought of.



DesFIP -> RE: Thoughts on Rape Play? (11/1/2008 6:17:01 AM)

The fantasy is hot because in our fantasies what's really going on is that there's some guy we want who is just overtaken with lust for us. And who doesn't want to inspire lust in a guy they lust for themselves?

The reality is where things get tricky because it's one of those things that can trip all kinds of unknown emotional triggers. Rape play is one of those things you ought to work up to, starting with doing it in role play, having a safeword, etc. Plus even when it goes well, the aftercare required can go on for weeks or months if we're talking about being snatched off the street, forced into a van, being taken to a strange place, hearing a strange voice etc. It's not an easy thing to process.

And there's the catch, in fantasy we walk away from this hot stranger unscathed. In reality we need it to not be a stranger but a committed relationship where the other person will be with you without complaints while you can't handle anything for the next few months.



MistressOfGa -> RE: Thoughts on Rape Play? (11/1/2008 6:56:50 AM)

quote:

It's surprising the number of men who have that fantasy, too.  Of course, a woman can't use brute strength to overpower him, so she needs to use a prop, such as knife, to "subdue" him, and . . . and . . . I have to go lie down now.


Venatrix,
Who says a woman can't use "brute strength"? When I engage in this type of role playing, it is all out "Mr. and Mrs. Smith" style. There are no holds barred. It is, of course, agreed upon, and safe words are firmly in place for both of us, before we even begin. I have never been one to go half way with something I love doing. I feel fortunate that I have had play partners who have the same passion about it as I do.


Edited to fix quote 
 



flower2007 -> RE: Thoughts on Rape Play? (11/1/2008 7:25:08 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: antipode

The one time I did do the part, with a sub from Europe, I was told afterwards that, even though she used the word, she hadn't actually meant "rape", but "forced sex".


And the difference is....



Audzen -> RE: Thoughts on Rape Play? (11/1/2008 7:52:15 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BLGirl

I absolutely love rape play. The struggle, pain, and eventual humiliation involved, is fabulous and afterward there is a calm like no other.
Does anyone else enjoy this type of play, or am I more of a freak than I realize?
 
(Note: Before anyone that has been sexually assaulted gets offended by the aforementioned, let me say that I too have been sexually assaulted. Therefore, no offense is intended.)
 
BLGirl



I agree with you whole-heartedly.. I find Myself describing My desires in this realm as non-consent on My terms..

I haven't had as many experiences as I would like to, though..

I have always had secret rape desires.. You know, like masturbation material.. How does O/one breach this subject with a new lover? As a femme, thoughts like these are dangerous.. Sometimes the more I don't want something, the more turned-on I get.. Luckily, I am at a place where I express these things with Someone who is genuinely interested.. (.. and talented!)

More soon....



CalifChick -> RE: Thoughts on Rape Play? (11/1/2008 7:55:22 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: manxcat
No offense taken, but having been raped and almost murdered, not on my hit list.  Before that though it was.  The reality took all the fun out of it, even as a perpetrator, in fantasyland.


Having been in the same situation, I was surprised that I was eventually able to overcome it and enjoy it again.  I never thought that would happen, it just seemed inconceivable to me, and I know for a lot of people, it will never happen.


Cali



tsatske -> RE: Thoughts on Rape Play? (11/1/2008 8:01:14 AM)

I was talking to my theripist once about my prevarications, and my fantasies. Specificaly he got interested in my 'burnt at the stake' fantasies.
He said, 'I wonder if you were burned as a witch in a previous life?' (Ime, theripists can be some interesting peeps....)

I said, 'how does that make sense? wouldn't that be like a rape victim having rape fantasies?'
To which he said, it is well documented that a large percentage of them DO....

Well, actually, when I think about it... that makes sense, you know?



GirlGenius -> RE: Thoughts on Rape Play? (11/1/2008 8:03:43 AM)

TO ROVER, JOHN, BLGIRL, ANGELA-

I am deeply dissapointed that you feel you can speak for, "most" or "70%" of women, where you have decided based on whatever personal experience you have that, that a rape fantasy is that common.

who the H** do you think you are?

You don't get to prescribe what you think the world thinks. Since it is scientifically impossible to have been with 70% of ALL WOMEN, you don't really get the right to say what they want.

Rape fantasies are in my experience rare.

I hate that you said these things. It bothers me that you think you know so much, when clearly what you are saying is 100% impossible to prove.

Please think about the statements you have made and wonder why a woman like me would be totally 100% in disagreement with you.

I find your comments wrong, irresponsible, and ignorant and even possibly, subversive and hurtful to people.



GirlGenius -> RE: Thoughts on Rape Play? (11/1/2008 8:08:31 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Rover

I believe that rape fantasies constitute the most common sexual fantasy amongst all women. 

I'm just curious, but can you prove this flagrantly unprovable statement?

AND you're a man, so how is it you think you can make this statement?

Did I say, "I believe that castration fantasies constitute the most common sexual fantasy amongst ALL men"..

our sexual fantasies are great, but when you feel you can make such an egregiously irresposonsible statement for "all women", that's where you set off the like of women like me.

You don't get to speak for women.



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