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ORIGINAL: variation30

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ORIGINAL: Venatrix

Actually, I think you'll find that once something is posted in a forum for public consumption, it becomes everybody's business.  But perhaps you are new to this whole "Internet" thing?

perhaps you misunderstood what I wrote. Ms. Subatomic311 claims that someone else does not need another object. that is a ridiculous position to take as how can one individual every decide what another individual needs? values are subjective, desires are subjective. trying to force one's opinions about something as simple as a fur coat onto another person because of self-righteousness is not a mentality that should be encouraged or praised.

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You mean, like a leather one Or one sewn in a sweat shop by a minor or for 10pence an hour by an adult? Or one that comes from the wool of animals, no better treated than mink? Do you ethically source you clothes like 'the rest of us'.  

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ORIGINAL: tsatske

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You mean, like a leather one Or one sewn in a sweat shop by a minor or for 10pence an hour by an adult? Or one that comes from the wool of animals, no better treated than mink? Do you ethically source you clothes like 'the rest of us'.  

I do not ethically source my clothing.

My main ethical issue that effects my buying decisions is non-consentual slavery. I try to limit the products I buy that contribute to non-consentual slavery. However - I can limit myself to fair trade coffee, American grown tea and slave free chocolate. BUT - there is not as much I can do about clothes. MOST American sold clothing comes from countries with ridiculous labor laws. Every now and then a company will piss me off so bad that I will boycott that one company, but it's kind of like pissing on a forest fire.

bitching and moaning about mink ( a farmed animal) by people who wear leather or eat meat is ridiculous, imo. Unless they are personally offended by mink farm conditions and make that one of your issues - or feel it is okay to eat meat but not to wear animal products. I had one friend who said they wouldn't wear mink but they would wear leather, because you can eat the beef the leather comes from, and, hence, no waste. I pointed out to them that they were wearing kid leather gloves - from goat. They said, sure, they don't eat goat, but others, from other cultures, do, so the meat does not HAVE to go to waste. I told them, yes, yes, it does. The process for harvesting goat leather is incompatable with the process for harvesting the meat for human consumption.

I know we all get to have our own little issues, and I get that. But I see absolutely nothing positive that PETA does. They are against owning pets, you know - the non-consentual slavery of animals. But they operate the biggest kill shelter in NYC, advertising it as a 'cruelty free shelter'. They espouse their rediculous views to children through the public schools, without parental consent, sending home nasty, obscene comics about 'where your food comes from.' They want a world pet free and 100% vegitaration, and, yes, they have zero concern for human problems. They just fucking annoy the hell out of me.

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ORIGINAL: RainydayNE

PETA is against pets, as far as i know.
like i said, when i lived in norfolk, where the headquarters is, they went around releasing people's pets because they think we shouldn't have them. scores of dogs were hit in the roads, lots of kids never got their pets back. it was crap.
another issue with PETA though is that they change their stances on certain issues like day and night. depending on who's in charge of what office and some particular time, they'll say "oh pets are okay" or "no! no one should have pets!"
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ORIGINAL: tweedydaddy

Greenpeace, Friends of the Earth and PETA and other enviromental fascists are only interested in picking on easy targets and simple slogans for the simple people who fill their coffers. The whole green thing is a business, a con - (aww look at the baby seals!) - science wringing, blackmailing bullying load of crap.
They have targetted our kids with all this sentimental tripe, and once given any sort of credence at all the agenda expands rapidly into areas of your life where your personal freedom to do, eat, wear, drive what you like counts for nothing.
Whales are doing fine, there are loads of them, it;s horrible when the Japs, norwegans, and faroe islanders kill the poor things, but any sort of hunting has a death at the end of it, it's a shame, but nothing lives forever.
Hundreds of people are killed every day in the USA if the statistics are anything to go by, yet no one gives a fig about that.
So don't worry too much about Moby, when kids are disappearing off the streets.

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ORIGINAL: tweedydaddy

Whales are doing fine, there are loads of them, it;s horrible when the Japs, norwegans, and faroe islanders kill the poor things, but any sort of hunting has a death at the end of it, it's a shame, but nothing lives forever.

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ORIGINAL: Moloch

Im all for PETA  People Eating Tasty Animals
Now excuse my Im gonna go buy another leather jacket, and another leather holster.