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ORIGINAL: celticlord2112

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What I find most interesting is that, you immediately come in to hand swat and chastise, instead of trying to have a real dialogue with her about it.

Exactly how does one have "dialogue" on a generalized, non-specific, and highly patronizing accusation?

Is every disagreement regarding the merits of the victor (or copious lack thereof) in this recent election automatically tinged with the specter of race?

If this is so, how does the electoral outcome herald a "new day" on race relations? (or anything else, for that matter)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

I think, at least I would hope, that MzMia would know me well enough through my posting history to know that I wasn't chastising or swatting anyone's hand. Least of all her's.

IF you would bother to try and be less sensitive you might read into my post that, while I think it is wonderful a person of obvious mixed race has been elected to the highest office in the land, AND while I voted for him.........regardless of gender or race....... it will be the day that neither will matter that I will be happiest with.

No racisim at all. zero zip nada

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ORIGINAL: sirsholly

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Mia, it's a bunch of crap.
President- Elect Obama will be America's President for the next four years and people should get behind him!
We had our election, The People decided and that's that.
Now let's get on with it.
I'd much rather be reading what people want to see him do in the next four years then whether he's "half black", "half white" or whatever.
It's about *our country*!
As I said in another thread I hope President Obama is the best President this country has ever had! If McCain were elected I'd be hoping the same thing!
It's not about his "race" it's about what he's going to do for our country.

sayeth the one that wants Fifty Cent to be a cabinet member?

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ORIGINAL: MzMia

What I predicted last month has started on CollarMe.
I am not surprised at all the racist and thinly veiled racist attacks.
 
I am a bit surprised they have started with a vengance, 5 days
after the election.
I have never seen this level of vitriol and hatred for a President
that has not even been inaugurated. {and believe me I was pissed
when Bush won in 2000!}.

This will certainly continue, it will not stop and I fully expect it too last
for years.
I adore President elect-Obama, CollarMe and many here.
I do not plan on leaving, but ignoring posts, posters and using the block
feature is my new friend.
.....I have to really say, I am sadly not surprised at all.
 

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ORIGINAL: MzMia
I will ignore whatever I like.

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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968

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ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

Viable political discussion and pointing out thing we are or others may be uncomfortable with (Such as appointing pro Israel, War Hawk Rohm Emmanuel as COS) is hardly vitriol. The biggest mistake we can make as a nation is mandating that any criticism of President Elect Obama is bigotry, racism. vitriol and hate.

Like Emmanuel...

I LOVE that Emmanuel is pro Israel and that it is important to him that The United States keeps a free and democratic Iraq. I like that he is Hawkish on the Middle East and wants peace there on Israel's and The United States' terms.

But his appointment can't make the anti-war and anti-Israel factions that voted in droves for The President Elect.

Ditto for the anti Wall Street'ers (who also voted for Obama in droves) because Emmanuel was known as The Congressman from Wall Street.

Look,,, I think Obama can stand the heat. His Speech and Press Conference clearly showed he was a leader, in charge and will be calling the shots. 

His vast nation of Internet protectors would be better served if they stopped worrying about racists and veiled racists comments solely because they dare to criticize the man or even less... point out to his blathering sycophants that maybe he's not quite the politician they thought he was. Obama is going to really piss off a lot of his supporters (George W. Bush routinely pissed me off.). It's the price of having to be President to all the people.

Well that just sounded way too rational and boring.
How dare you not continue the drama. 

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ORIGINAL: theobserver

The following is a concern troll post (read at your own risk):

MzMia does not need defending, but I'm going to step in. This, post was started because this is the way she feels, just as everyone else has commented on various things around this forum and expressed their opinions and frustrations.

What I find most interesting is that, you immediately come in to hand swat and chastise, instead of trying to have a real dialogue with her about it. This is not just about CM, it's the prevalent attitude that some in our society have no right to voice their concerns, if others don't believe there's a concern to be addressed.

I'm not trying to be the race police on CM, I never came here for that. I never introduced myself as The Black Observer. However, give myself and MzMia the freedom, as you have, to take in and express the pride not only for our country but the evolution of our forefather's struggle in this country - with the ascension of President elect Obama. With the history and even current state of America, why would anyone deny that to their fellow citizens?

Racism still exists, yes, but instead of being veiled in white pointy hoods, it's locked away behind the doors of corporate America and used to divide and conquer the masses. Keep the masses ignorant in the living room, while they sneak all the valuables out the backdoor.

If you are not making the racist comments she was alluding to, then why do you care if she feels the way she feels? She never specifically called anyone out in her original post. I find there is a lot of insecurity in the fact that some of you keep coming back to this thread to swat MzMia on the hand. It's a very paternalistic attitude ... now what does that remind me of?

Hmm.

I said before the election that, now would be the perfect time to work congruently through our issues with race in an open fashion, along side our economic, educational, energy and safety plans for the future. When will that talk be had, this is CollarMe, but we got to start somewhere. All it takes is one person to get the ball rolling. However us sniping back and forth about this is going nowhere.

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ORIGINAL: winterlight

MzMia aren't U an Obama Mama? I have seen that on a bumper sticker here on a car. I loved that one! LOL

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ORIGINAL: MadRabbit

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ORIGINAL: MzMia

What I predicted last month has started on CollarMe.
I am not surprised at all the racist and thinly veiled racist attacks.
 
I am a bit surprised they have started with a vengance, 5 days
after the election.
I have never seen this level of vitriol and hatred for a President
that has not even been inaugurated. {and believe me I was pissed
when Bush won in 2000!}.

This will certainly continue, it will not stop and I fully expect it too last
for years.
I adore President elect-Obama, CollarMe and many here.
I do not plan on leaving, but ignoring posts, posters and using the block
feature is my new friend.
.....I have to really say, I am sadly not surprised at all.
 

Of course, because everyone who has a problem or concern with Obama's tax plan, his multiple contradictory promises, the vagueness regarding what policies will be implemented given that he promised everything to everyone, our lack of history or knowledge about the guy, his lack of experience, and his cold, cool, and overly coached behavior that's just a little too perfect is a stupid ignorant racist.

Just like the guys who hung the Barrack Obama dolls weren't making a political message in accordance with a political tradition, but being stupid ignornant racists!

I must be reading the wrong posts.

But if I am not, maybe there will be a lot less racial hatred on Collarme.com if everyone stops assuming that anyone who has something bad to say is being racist.

(Sorry, not seeing an advanced level of hatred and virolity for a black candidate. I am just see normal politics on a medium that allows people to freely express their opinions without consequences)

Edited to Add : Sorry, MzMia, but to be frankly honest, the biggest problem on these boards I have seen is...well....you. Your general inability to read posts without distorting what people are saying into some kind of racial attack when there is none and your regular thought policing of turning anyone who dares to say something derogatory about Obama into being racist combined with your own efforts to turn the election into "electing a black candidate" as opposed to "electing the best candidate" is what's turning this into a war between whites and blacks instead of just political discussion.

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ORIGINAL: MzMia

What I predicted last month has started on CollarMe.
I am not surprised at all the racist and thinly veiled racist attacks.
 
I am a bit surprised they have started with a vengance, 5 days
after the election.
I have never seen this level of vitriol and hatred for a President
that has not even been inaugurated. {and believe me I was pissed
when Bush won in 2000!}.

This will certainly continue, it will not stop and I fully expect it too last
for years.
I adore President elect-Obama, CollarMe and many here.
I do not plan on leaving, but ignoring posts, posters and using the block
feature is my new friend.
.....I have to really say, I am sadly not surprised at all.
 

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ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

All Im hearing here is let's do away with freedom of speach. If people are not saying what I want to hear then they should not be allowed to talk.   Get a life people.

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ORIGINAL: MzMia

....read your profile....
yawning, next.

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I am Obamarized!!!
I am also not ashamed to admit it.