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celticlord2112 -> RE: The Obama Recession! (11/10/2008 9:57:41 AM)
quote: US networks said Obama won the popular vote by a six-point margin of 52 to 46 percent, earning a higher percentage of the overall vote than any Democrat since Johnson in 1964 (61.1 percent). Somebody's history is skewed. He won, but while the overall voter turnout is a record, the ultimate percentage (which, due to population growth over time, is the only valid method of comparing past and present elections) is hardly noteworthy. Reagan, Nixon, Eisenhower all had higher percentages of the popular vote. Granted, those are Republican Presidents.....

Aynne88 -> RE: The Obama Recession! (11/10/2008 9:57:50 AM)
http://www.upi.com/news/issueoftheday/2008/11/05/Obama_Dems_win_historic_blowout_victory/UPI-40391225895936/ Sigh...even if he won by 100 votes guys he is still going to be our President. Legitimately this time. No Supreme Court intervention and that skank Kathleen Harris or illegal voter felon lists! Imagine it.[8\|] quote: ORIGINAL: celticlord2112 quote: I googled it, and just by skimming over the numbers, it looks like Roosevelt had a higher percentage of the popular vote, at least in '36 On a percentage basis, Reagan in 1984, Nixon in 1972, as well as Eisenhower in 1956 and 1952 all had a larger share of the popular vote.

celticlord2112 -> RE: The Obama Recession! (11/10/2008 10:02:48 AM)
quote: Legitimately this time. He won. It was not a blowout, nor was Bush's election illegitimate. Gore fucked himself in Florida by dragging it before the courts and then getting out-lawyered (lesson to the Democrats: don't bring a knife to a gunfight). Other, albeit Republican Presidents have won larger majorities, and more electoral votes. Historic victory for many reasons, but neither the magnitude nor the legal quality of the victory number among them.

rulemylife -> RE: The Obama Recession! (11/10/2008 10:05:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: celticlord2112 quote: Unfortunately, at least in this country, the idea of the corporation as a citizen with social responsibility has given way to the idea that their sole purpose is to maximize profit. Maximizing profit is a corporation's "social responsibility". It never has been, never will be, and never should be otherwise. It has been, should be, and in some cases still is. Their primary resposibility is to make a profit. The idea that it is their only responsibility and the idea of maximizing profits at the expense of any social responsibilty gained ground with the "greed is good" philosophy of the late '80's. Which gave us Enron, Tyco, Worldcom and a number of other shining examples.

kittinSol -> RE: The Obama Recession! (11/10/2008 10:12:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aynne88 Sigh...even if he won by 100 votes guys he is still going to be our President. Legitimately this time. No Supreme Court intervention and that skank Kathleen Harris or illegal voter felon lists! Imagine it.[8\|] It's out of this world that Obama won by such a large majority, but the perverse side of me kind of regrets it was done without cheating millions out of their votes. What a wonderful lesson this would have been for the Atwaterish branch of the GOP [8D] .

SilverMark -> RE: The Obama Recession! (11/10/2008 10:21:48 AM)
And those elections the Presidents were all 3 incumbants....Obama was not, so still an impressive victory

Musicmystery -> RE: The Obama Recovery! (11/10/2008 10:25:50 AM)
~FR~ And again, the guy isn't even President yet. Give him a chance to show his stuff! Until then, it's still the Bush recession.

RacerJim -> RE: The Obama Recession! (11/10/2008 10:34:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery He's not even fucking in office yet. Get a grip. Hopefully Obama won't fucking ever get in office. Wake up. Not only is Obama's eligibility to be POTUS highly suspect but so is his eligibility for a government security clearance. Several ongoing law suits in various States are challenging whether or not Obama is in fact a natural born U.S. Citizen, which one MUST be to get into the Office of the Presidency according to the U.S. Constitution. All of them are seeking to force Obama to profer the vault copy of his Hawaiian "Birth Certificate" (as opposed to the "Certification of Live Birth" posted on FactCheck.org) to the Court to prove he was in fact born in Hawaii, along with other official government documentation proving he was re-patriated as a U.S. Citizen after returning from Indonesia where he attended grade school. Although no law suits are pending regarding Obama's eligibility for a government security clearance, which for some incredulous reason is not required by the U.S. Constitution in order to get into the Office of the Presidency, his long-time close associations with William Ayers et al (several of whom have been the FBI's high-risk watch list for decades) would prevent him from being cleared by the FBI for even the lowest government security clearance much less the highest. It's absolutely incredulous that candidates for POTUS aren't automatically subjected to an FBI background investigation and required to be cleared by same PRIOR to being allowed to run for POTUS! Obama supporters are welcome to say what they will about the above. The bottom-line is that Obama could have easily and immediately ended any/all question/speculation about his citizenship by simply either posting the vault copy of his Hawaiian "Birth Certificate" on his web-site or, if he didn't want it exposed to that extent, proferring it to one/more of the Court(s) hearing the aforementioned law suits. Adding question/speculation about Obama's citizenship is the fact that both Obama and the DNC have engaged in stalling tactics pertaining to each of the aforementioned law suits. In addition to all the foregoing here are more things Obama has kept secret: Obama/Dunham marriage license Soetoro/Dunham marriage license Soetoro adoption records Besuki School application Punahou School records Selective Service Registration Occidental College records Passport (Pakistan) Columbia College records Columbia thesis Harvard College records Harvard Law Review articles Baptism certificate Medical records Illinois State Senate records Illinois State Senate schedule Law practice client list University of Chicago scholarly articles Try interviewing for any type of professional job, refuse to show the interviewer what Obama has refused to show his interviewers ("We the people..."), and see how long it takes the interviewer to tell you to get your ass out of their office and don't ever come back!

SilverMark -> RE: The Obama Recession! (11/10/2008 10:51:46 AM)
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html Not this crap again? Read this then go crawl back under the conspiratorial rock you crawled out from beneath! Born in the U.S.A.August 21, 2008Updated: November 1, 2008The truth about Obama's birth certificate.SummaryIn June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen. But the image prompted more blog-based skepticism about the document's authenticity. And recently, author Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that the birth certificate the campaign has is "fake." We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said. Update, Nov. 1: The director of Hawaii’s Department of Health confirmed Oct. 31 that Obama was born in Honolulu.

kittinSol -> RE: The Obama Recession! (11/10/2008 10:58:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RacerJim Hopefully Obama won't fucking ever get in office. Wake up. Not only is Obama's eligibility to be POTUS highly suspect but so is his eligibility for a government security clearance. I must have been psychic when I thought of Lee Atwater earlier: your post reflects his method to perfection. You have learnt well, Anakin.

Lucylastic -> RE: The Obama Recession! (11/10/2008 11:10:35 AM)
Dont confuse the issue with truth or facts Mark:) Someone somewhere would have found out the truth by now. If left lib media can find out what colour joe the plumbers toe jam is, Im sure some persnikkety repub must be bright enough to uncover everything!!! Truth beyond blogs...... concrete evidence from any news source to the truth. They have had 21 months to dig up the facts, but nothing sticks, are they just lousy at their job? Must be. Obama's certificate of birth OK, state says http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20081101/NEWS05/811010345/1001/localnewsfront State declares Obama birth certificate genuine http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iw1At-4G1xuE50oXVFRlBPfR3dqgD945OLU00 Lucy Edited cos I cant link

Aynne88 -> RE: The Obama Recession! (11/10/2008 12:22:08 PM)
You can shove facts down these haters throats and up their asses and they won't get it. I revel in the thought of the 8 years of Obama, prosperity, and respect in the global community once again and they can eat their words. of course, when they benefit from it? They will still bitch. [:-] quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol quote: ORIGINAL: Aynne88 Sigh...even if he won by 100 votes guys he is still going to be our President. Legitimately this time. No Supreme Court intervention and that skank Kathleen Harris or illegal voter felon lists! Imagine it.[8\|] It's out of this world that Obama won by such a large majority, but the perverse side of me kind of regrets it was done without cheating millions out of their votes. What a wonderful lesson this would have been for the Atwaterish branch of the GOP [8D] .

Aynne88 -> RE: The Obama Recession! (11/10/2008 12:23:43 PM)
Good god. Mark it is impossible to get these guys off hate blogs and the drudge report long enough to let a fact infiltrate their brains. Let's enjoy the glorious victory anway, and watch them be miserable. quote: ORIGINAL: SilverMark http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html Not this crap again? Read this then go crawl back under the conspiratorial rock you crawled out from beneath! Born in the U.S.A.August 21, 2008Updated: November 1, 2008The truth about Obama's birth certificate.SummaryIn June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen. But the image prompted more blog-based skepticism about the document's authenticity. And recently, author Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that the birth certificate the campaign has is "fake." We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said. Update, Nov. 1: The director of Hawaii’s Department of Health confirmed Oct. 31 that Obama was born in Honolulu.

celticlord2112 -> RE: The Obama Recession! (11/10/2008 12:29:01 PM)
quote: You can shove facts down these haters throats and up their asses and they won't get it. And yet by far the greatest amount of hate, venom, and vitriol is coming from the presumptive victors. Revenge is for suckers, and doubly so when there was no wrong done to begin with.

kittinSol -> RE: The Obama Recession! (11/10/2008 12:36:54 PM)
I wish you would exercise your honourable vigilance upon the man up there who posted yet another piece of crap questioning the president elect's legitimacy. You missed a corner... right over there...

Caretaker200 -> RE: The Obama Recession! (11/10/2008 12:38:55 PM)
Supreme Court Justice Souter has commanded a response from Obama/DNC not later than 12/1/2008. Then Berg (Plaintiff) gets to react to that. It may then be heard by the Supreme Court. Until they rule or choose not to rule, the matter is unsettled. Hawaii said: "Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures," Fukino said. They have the original, but it does not indicate what that item is or says or that it is even from that state. They do not refer to any facts or assertions it contains or anything beyond stating that they have it. For Obama to have withheld it, even to the Supreme Court, does indicate his desire not to share it, as this is a usually mundane document commonly used, show and requested, that he refused is of interest and possibly of concern. It could simply be embarassasing or politically sensitive such as the question of the father or as to religion, etc ...

celticlord2112 -> RE: The Obama Recession! (11/10/2008 12:42:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol I wish you would exercise your honourable vigilance upon the man up there who posted yet another piece of crap questioning the president elect's legitimacy. You missed a corner... right over there... I miss very little, kittin. And the accuracy of my statement stands undiminished.

RainydayNE -> RE: The Obama Recovery! (11/10/2008 12:46:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery ~FR~ And again, the guy isn't even President yet. Give him a chance to show his stuff! Until then, it's still the Bush recession. EXACTLY!

corysub -> RE: The Obama Recovery! (11/10/2008 12:52:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery ~FR~ And again, the guy isn't even President yet. Give him a chance to show his stuff! Until then, it's still the Bush recession. Those of us who are not economists wonder how it is a Bush recession? Was it also the Bush recovery and job creation for the first seven years? What are the root causes of todays financial debacle. Please explain your reasons for blaming today's problems on just Georgie. ??

DomKen -> RE: The Obama Recession! (11/10/2008 1:24:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RacerJim Obama/Dunham marriage license Soetoro/Dunham marriage license Soetoro adoption records Besuki School application Punahou School records Selective Service Registration Occidental College records Passport (Pakistan) Columbia College records Columbia thesis Harvard College records Harvard Law Review articles Baptism certificate Medical records Illinois State Senate records Illinois State Senate schedule Law practice client list University of Chicago scholarly articles You copied and pasted this list, as is evident from the change of font, and it is clear that the original author lied and you believed it. For instance the Harvard Law Review is a magazine with bylines. Simply doing a basic search of any number of online resources you could find all the artciles he wrote for the HLR or any other journal. Why the author thinks he has a Pakistani passport to put forward since it is a matter of public record that he never lived there is another odd detail. All in all a pretty pathetic piece of agitprop.

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