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LadyEllen -> RE: The Obama Recession! (11/10/2008 5:49:21 AM)
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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/09/right-wing-media-quickly_n_142440.html
how many bail outs has there been in 2008?
just what we need to ; to be the attack dog for the state of Israel.
Obama is phony. Change means bail outs. Jim asked me how much money "we" get over the bail out.
it is all about the globalists. not the nation state.
No one should expect that Obama, even with four years, can truly turn things around by way of his office or his ideas. This is the reality of things in a world where so much is beyond the control, even the influence of the President of the USA, the most powerful person on the planet so its believed.
But what you have here is a man who can provide the hope and inspiration that will be sorely needed for the next four years, for everyone to play their part in putting things back together.
Its not going to be easy - it wouldnt have been any different whoever had been elected, but with his rivals it would be much worse; fear and despondency are the greatest obstacles that face the US and the west in general, and this man I believe can make us all believe in the destination even if we disagree on the route, whereas his rivals would have done nothing to lift spirits through such times.
On bailouts - yes it stinks, but what is the alternative? If we let our banking system collapse as our system would normally demand, it takes down with it everything we need to survive - even the ammunition factories if one believes in a doomsday scenario whereby that is one's intended means of survival. If we let key industries that employ thousands go down, the ripple effect takes out thousands more jobs. Overall, not bailing out is a worse alternative than bailing out - but its vital that those entities that get taxpayer support are then compelled to act in the national interest at least as equally as the bail outs represent.
The primary change on foreign policy I believe will be quite a substantial one - the mere idea of talking to those named as enemies represents a shift, the idea of reaching diplomatic solutions rather than issuing threats and ultimata is a radical one given more recent experience, the idea of working with friendly nations rather than making statements of with us or against us is a new way of thinking compared to previously. This may not work - but it is a far better alternative than the previous policy for a whole range of reasons, and ultimately it doesnt mean that force wont be used where its necessary even so, albeit I feel that Obama will not be so quick to choose such an option as his predecessor proved, and for more reasons than lack of funds.
The globalist agenda is here and isnt going to go away, but I believe that a man like Obama is not going to be the lapdog of big business nor subject to the same extent to commercial influences as the current incumbent. I believe Obama understands that the US needs to rebuild its manufacturing base and to produce conditions that incentivise employment and investment at home rather than abroad. I believe he understands from all manner of points of view why this is important - the social aspect being important in that too. The house of cards on which we have lived for a decade is crumbling, built as it was on nothing - anyone can understand that we now need the foundation we so readily signed away. One shouldnt expect isolationism, because that wont work either - but one can expect I think a new understanding of what it means to be in a global business environment and how that affects the nation state and more especially its people and its wealth.
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