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RE: not knowing what he looks like - 11/12/2008 7:24:06 AM   
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Two things:

1) If he expects to get a picture of me, he'd have to have a picture of him.

2) Considering how many pictures that I've received that show a guy sitting in a chair in a stained T-shirt, with missing teeth, greasy hair while clutching a beer....yeah, I want a picture.

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RE: not knowing what he looks like - 11/12/2008 7:25:14 AM   
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How long would you go without knowing what someone looks like? has anyone ever met someone sight unseen? or the guy really thinks it is exciting the thought to meet without knowing what he looks like..


Personally, I could not go very long without knowing what someone looks like.  If that were the case, I'd very quickly lose interest in the belief that something was not kosher and I don't have the time or inclination to figure out what that is.
 
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RE: not knowing what he looks like - 11/12/2008 7:32:24 AM   
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I met my Master sight unseen. I already knew that I liked Him from O/our chats online and on the phone but also knew at that time I was shallow enough to allow a bad pic colour my judgement.

When W/we did meet I didn’t know what He would be wearing or anything, in my nervousness and anxiety not to be late I had forgot to ask. He knew what car I had, what year it was, colour etc and what I looked like (I had a pic up at that time) and I was stuck in traffic at the time when I saw this good looking man striding very purposefully towards my car and got in smiling and greeting me lol im sat there thinking ‘Ooo fuck! Ooo hells bells He is sex on legs – Phoooooooar!’ and trying to be ‘cool’ and I think ended up coming across as frosty and uptight, and I think He thought I wasn’t keen lol

Didn’t last long as He soon put me at my ease, long drink and chat followed and knew by end of that 1st meeting this gorgeous man was going to be my Master.

Instinctually right from the off I knew I would really like Him and importantly that I could trust Him knowing what He looked like at the beginning wasn’t important and then I didn’t really care I was going to be His regardless. People mock or ignore instinct/gut feeling and they shouldn’t it’s a hidden gem we have and is very often right. Master and i are still together, and through good and bad, that chemistry has never waned and neither has my desire to obey and please Him. I suppose W/we were lucky but I just think W/we were meant to be Master and slave.

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RE: not knowing what he looks like - 11/12/2008 12:21:36 PM   
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I would never meet a woman I hadn't seen a picture of but I have met women who haven't seen me.  That said, I think it is pretty stupid for a woman to do it with anyone else as there are some crazy fucking people out there.


I'm with Cali on this one. A picture doesn't mean crap really.

Personally, There are very few pictures of me, add that fact that my hair style and colour changes consistantly and I look different if i'm wearing glasses or contacts.

Example... I had an interview with a lady, she set up a second interview a week later. In that week I cut my hair, dyed it and showed up in glasses cause my contacts were not cooperating. The lady I had just met a week ago walked right past me because she didn't recognize me.

I rarely recognize people from their photo's.

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Maybe I'm having an off day, but I'm not following the logic.  What does a picture prove?  That someone is not crazy?  That it's a pic of the person you're actually going to meet?




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RE: not knowing what he looks like - 11/12/2008 7:26:52 PM   
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i rather be cautious about whom i'm meeting solely because i have others depending on me return safely home.

if person has no photo prior to meeting - there will be no meeting.



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RE: not knowing what he looks like - 11/12/2008 7:52:51 PM   
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Not every one belives first meets have to be in public or in very public places you know. And that's their right to believe that.
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In a very public place , right ?



I would think that this would be a safety issue.  I wonder how much people are actually thinking about their safety when meeting people.   Again I would suggest this for anyone living any life style to at least let people know what the heck you are doing.  JMO


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RE: not knowing what he looks like - 11/12/2008 8:59:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BLGirl

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ORIGINAL: YourhandMyAss

Not every one belives first meets have to be in public or in very public places you know. And that's their right to believe that.
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ORIGINAL: piratecommander

In a very public place , right ?



I would think that this would be a safety issue.  I wonder how much people are actually thinking about their safety when meeting people.   Again I would suggest this for anyone living any life style to at least let people know what the heck you are doing.  JMO


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I would imagine that most people do think of their safety. It's a risk assessment issue. In some cases it would be riskier to meet in a non public place than others. In other cases it feels perfectly safe to meet in a private place. It's up to the person to decide.

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RE: not knowing what he looks like - 11/12/2008 9:02:14 PM   
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unfortunately I could not find who posted it but I think it has to do with judging character.  If a person is a poor judge of character then it won't matter where or how they meet someone.


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RE: not knowing what he looks like - 11/12/2008 9:04:31 PM   
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Very true. Meeting in a crowded, public place could be just as dangerous for someone with a poor judge of character. Conversely, if a person is a fairly good judge of character, then slapping the "idiot" label on them for meeting privately is not so cool.

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RE: not knowing what he looks like - 11/12/2008 11:33:01 PM   
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Now I don't get this... what good is a picture from a 'security' standpoint?


Unwillingness to show a recent picture before a meet up can speak volumes about a person's level of honesty and commitment.  Some of the most common lies people tell in order to get attention concern their appearance -- age, weight, height, build, etc.  I would at least want to verify that they are telling the truth in that respect.  If someone introduced themselves to me as "25m athletic build, tall, dark, handsome, etc, but refuses to send a recent picture before a meet up, I'm going to assume he's been lying or has something to hide.  Trust is earned, not given.

After all, if you're willing to put yourself on the line and meet in person, you should not be so adamant to conceal something as basic as your appearance, especially if you know the other person is requesting for it out of precaution.  It's similar to asking for references, setting up a safe call, etc.  No one really wants to do it because we'd like to think we can trust others, but it's something that should be done. 

Also, it's more awkward and difficult when finding out that someone's been lying to you during a face to face meet as opposed to finding out online.  By then, you've given up a lot more information whether you realize it or not, like what kind of car you drive, your license plate, from what side of the city you came from, etc.  It puts you in a more dangerous position, but by at least knowing what this person should look like, you're preparing yourself for who you should look for.      

An unwillingness to show a recent photo can also indicate their level of commitment.  There's big risk in showing your picture to a someone online, especially if you've already revealed your first name, location, occupation, etc.  The fact that someone is willing to take that risk and reveal something so identifiable may be a sign that they're somewhat committed and interested in getting to you know more.


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ORIGINAL: CallaFirestormBW
It doesn't tell you [...] whether the picture is a dozen years old or taken last week.


You can request for the other person to take a picture while doing something you've specifically requested to ensure that it's a recent picture. 

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It doesn't tell you what hir family situation is, whether xhe has the job xhe says xhe does, or whether xhe has an uncontrollable temper. It doesn't tell you if xhe drinks too much, or can manage hir money. All it gives you is a two-dimensional view of a moment in time. So maybe someone can explain to me what that limited view has to do with 'security'.


The "limited view" that pictures provide give some indication of a person's commitment and honesty which factor into security and genuineness.  Obviously more information should be requested for insight into their finances, family relations, or whatever you deem important.  But just because a picture can't tell you everything doesn't mean it shouldn't be asked for. 

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RE: not knowing what he looks like - 11/12/2008 11:53:54 PM   
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Obviously more information should be requested for insight into their finances, family relations, etc.  But just because a picture can't tell you everything doesn't mean it shouldn't be asked for. 



Am I understanding correctly that you request a person's financial information before meeting them?

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RE: not knowing what he looks like - 11/13/2008 12:10:08 AM   
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Obviously more information should be requested for insight into their finances, family relations, etc.  But just because a picture can't tell you everything doesn't mean it shouldn't be asked for. 



Am I understanding correctly that you request a person's financial information before meeting them?


No you are not because I'm not open to meeting people I talk to online nor have I ever been so there's no need to ask such personal questions.  However, if I ever became open to it, it would depend on what our intentions were.  Inquiries into one's financial background can be reasonable depending on the circumstances. 

But to make things clear, I mentioned finances because I took that from CallaFirestormBW's previous post, if you've read it.  Perhaps you should direct this question to him/her also. 



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RE: not knowing what he looks like - 11/13/2008 12:33:14 AM   
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How long would you go without knowing what someone looks like? has anyone ever met someone sight unseen? or the guy really thinks it is exciting the thought to meet without knowing what he looks like..


Yup.  And the man was not at all what I would have said I 'needed' or 'wanted'.  He's only 5 ft 4 in ( I'm 5ft 6in).  But  this guy  *rocked my world*.  We're not together because we don't fit one another's boundaries/needs, but we're tight as friends. 
 
I wouldv'e met another Dom off here as well.  He was morbidly obese -- like around 500 lbs. -- but he was bright and kind and cool.  So I wouldv't met him and waited to see what happened.
 
I'm not attracted to a static 2 dimensional pic on profile, and I find web camming is useless.  Brings out the horndog in so many men.  (Dunno why, have they reached the ripe old age of 45 and still never seen boobage before?  LOL.) 
 
I'm attracted to wit, kindness, dominance that 'reads' for me...a bunch of stuff I cannot 'read' online.
 
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RE: not knowing what he looks like - 11/13/2008 5:59:28 AM   
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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

Two things:

1) If he expects to get a picture of me, he'd have to have a picture of him.

2) Considering how many pictures that I've received that show a guy sitting in a chair in a stained T-shirt, with missing teeth, greasy hair while clutching a beer....yeah, I want a picture.


Ditto! 

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RE: not knowing what he looks like - 11/13/2008 6:43:34 AM   
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Obviously more information should be requested for insight into their finances, family relations, etc.  But just because a picture can't tell you everything doesn't mean it shouldn't be asked for. 



Am I understanding correctly that you request a person's financial information before meeting them?


No you are not because I'm not open to meeting people I talk to online nor have I ever been so there's no need to ask such personal questions.  However, if I ever became open to it, it would depend on what our intentions were.  Inquiries into one's financial background can be reasonable depending on the circumstances. 

OK

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But to make things clear, I mentioned finances because I took that from CallaFirestormBW's previous post, if you've read it.  Perhaps you should direct this question to him/her also. 





Not necessarily. She said her reasons why she'd meet without having seen a picture, and listed all the things a photo does not say about someone. She did not say, as you did, that "more information should be requested for insight into their finances." I got the impression from Calla's posts that she'd rather just learn about people in person, by getting to know them, rather than requesting things like photos and financials.

No worries, we apparently took different things from her post.

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RE: not knowing what he looks like - 11/13/2008 10:52:52 AM   
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You can request for the other person to take a picture while doing something you've specifically requested to ensure that it's a recent picture.
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The "limited view" that pictures provide give some indication of a person's commitment and honesty which factor into security and genuineness. Obviously more information should be requested for insight into their finances, family relations, or whatever you deem important. But just because a picture can't tell you everything doesn't mean it shouldn't be asked for.

No offense, but I would find that (the bolded part) a little creepy if it was requested of me beforehand.

I don't mind, if we meet at a public place, being asked to show my driver's license, just to show who I really am (officially, anyway). But I'm not too keen on having to provide impeccable diplomatic credentials just to meet for a cup of coffee (or tea.)
I'm not really willing to jump through too many hoops over the internet.

I guess a lot would have to do with how easy it is to meet someone. I would usually only be meeting someone who lived in my town already, and for whom meeting at a coffee shop wouldn't be that big a deal or inconvenience.

If it were more of a long distance thing, then I could see wanting much more information beforehand.

As far as the notion of commitment goes, guy's experience is probably somewhat similar to women's (though on a smaller scale, I'd guess) in that if you put an ad up, most of the replies you receive will be something along these lines;
"I'm interested. Shoot me a pic and we'll talk."

To me, that shows a lack of commitment, and a certain shallowness.
I'm a fairly visual person, so I get that part, but still; if you can't share anything about you, why would I want to send you my picture?
Sometimes it's a bit of a "who goes first?" problem, with each expecting the other to be the first to volunteer pertinent information, whether it's a picture or a piece of descriptive writing.

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RE: not knowing what he looks like - 11/13/2008 11:27:09 AM   
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No offense, but I would find that (the bolded part) a little creepy if it was requested of me beforehand.

I don't mind, if we meet at a public place, being asked to show my driver's license, just to show who I really am (officially, anyway). But I'm not too keen on having to provide impeccable diplomatic credentials just to meet for a cup of coffee (or tea.)
I'm not really willing to jump through too many hoops over the internet.



I agree, Jeptha. I think this is sort of my point -- I meet a lot of people over the course of time. I provide pastoral care for a half-dozen 'fringe' communities, and have people come to my office for private counseling sessions that I've never met before in my life--and some of these folks are -self acknowledged- as being "disturbed'.

Meeting someone from CM or another site isn't any more dangerous, in my mind -- safer, even, because the folks I meet from CM I almost always meet with my Darling or another member of the core household (they have to all approve new members anyway, so why not get a couple of introductions done up front?) I also almost always meet folks from CM somewhere like an event, a coffee shop or a restaurant, or, if they -do- come to our home (and some have), we always have a number of people around.

I think that it's important to be smart about how we behave -- but I also think that there's a point where paranoia becomes this overwhelming mire to have to dig through, and at that point it's easier to say 'why bother' than put out that extra effort to jump through a total stranger's hoops (because remember, the person doing the demanding of all this stuff is a total stranger to the other person, too -- and maybe xhe's getting freaked out about having to give out all this personal information to someone xhe doesn't really know, ya know )

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RE: not knowing what he looks like - 11/13/2008 5:07:21 PM   
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       Along the way , I've met a few people without seeing them first .    I don't place alot of weight on a photo because someone can look very different in person - especially if the photo shown is not recent . 
       As long as we've previously gotten along well in writing , and phonecalls , I figure that minimally,  we'll likely have a pleasant time - even if it leads to nothing .   Everyone has something to teach us !
 
    
   

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RE: not knowing what he looks like - 11/13/2008 8:51:25 PM   
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i have met several folks from CM without a photo for coffee - as friends from my area. But i could not pursue a relationship without a photo. i don't feel physical attraction makes one shallow...just "well-rounded"
 
 

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RE: not knowing what he looks like - 11/13/2008 10:23:23 PM   
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I don't mind, if we meet at a public place, being asked to show my driver's license, just to show who I really am (officially, anyway).


I haven't met a man yet who was willing to show me his drivers license to prove age/name/location/etc. on a first date...

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