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scarlethiney -> RE: Picture in the Profile versus Fear for you Job (11/11/2008 6:48:01 PM)

  If my employer is on Collarme looking then he really isn't in any position to find much to criticize me about now is he?

No I am not concerned about my employer hunting me down on Collarme.

I can't imagine who you work for that would be investigating your lifestyle unless it were some  government or police agency. Of course I never considered that teachers would be so concerned. Most of the teachers I know are on web sites like this.

scarlet




Jeptha -> RE: Picture in the Profile versus Fear for you Job (11/11/2008 6:56:37 PM)

If they find me on Collarme, I am not so worried. They had to search for me here, came voluntarily of their own accord, etc. So if they've got a problem with it, they're hanging out on a perve sight, too, so big deal.
It seems appropriate to me to confine my adult interests to a perve site like this one.
Because you know what you're getting when you come here.
If someone had a problem with it, I'd find it a little hypocritical, in addition to a disrespect of privacy to take this content out of its context (i.e., bringing it up at work).

On a more neutral site like Craigslist, though, I might be much more cautious about posting pictures if I am including a lot of personal, sexual information.




dawntreader -> RE: Picture in the Profile versus Fear for you Job (11/11/2008 6:58:27 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: OneMoreWaste


MOM???



Yes?
Aren't you supposed to be in bed?




AquaticSub -> RE: Picture in the Profile versus Fear for you Job (11/11/2008 7:02:06 PM)

While I don't have a lot to worry about right now there is a reason my fan hides my face in the picture. I'm not very concerned about that limiting my search since I'm very willing to meet people at local events but I feel it does help some. For some it's a very real problem, hopefully it will become less of one.




flower2007 -> RE: Picture in the Profile versus Fear for you Job (11/11/2008 7:02:14 PM)

I have a security clearance.  Hiding this is probably more of a detriment to that than being out, but I'm not willing to take that chance.

And don't kid yourself, if someone sees you here, it does NOT mean they're looking for the same like.  Like the OP said, employers will search sites just looking for dirt on employees.




Maya2001 -> RE: Picture in the Profile versus Fear for you Job (11/11/2008 7:13:12 PM)

Canadian law offers a bit of workplace protection when it comes to sexual preferences and discrimination and I am not  in a field where I work with minors or have a public image to protect  and I have no children at home.... so any risks are extremely low




Racquelle -> RE: Picture in the Profile versus Fear for you Job (11/11/2008 7:22:17 PM)

Under very few circumstances would it be legal for an employer, in the US, to search for a person here, and if they did and found something, for them to use it as a means for not hiring, dismissal, or passing one over for a promotion.    I have heard anecdotal stories of employers hunting on myspace, but never actually met any HR reps who would bother.  Typically most background checking is performed by a contracted company, and none of the ones I know would violate the FCRA (which governs background reporting) by doing something so foolish.




PurpleSockx -> RE: Picture in the Profile versus Fear for you Job (11/11/2008 7:23:47 PM)

I am currently working as a nanny to my 5 year-old nephew. My brother is aware of my orientation & lifestyle and has no problem with that. He's open enough to understand that doesn't mean I'm a freakish pervert who will initiate his son into this :)

And as far as my previous jobs & bosses, I would have been more insulted than scared at the thought of anyone breaking in my privacy to be honest. To me, judging someone over their BDSM lifestyle would be just as discriminatory as judging someone for being gay and I would find this unacceptable.




theobserver -> RE: Picture in the Profile versus Fear for you Job (11/11/2008 7:25:04 PM)

As much as my job can annoy me, this is one of a few reasons I'm glad to have it. Being self-employed in an adult industry gives me the freedom to engage in what I like (as long as it's legal of course) and not worry about conforming to vanilla standards of professionalism.




xxblushesxx -> RE: Picture in the Profile versus Fear for you Job (11/11/2008 7:27:42 PM)

They search sites like facebook and the like. They are not going to go to collarme or bondage or fet for everyone who applies.
I am not concerned about that whatsoever.
(but then again, everyone who works in the law is a little kinky...)




hopelesslyInvo -> RE: Picture in the Profile versus Fear for you Job (11/11/2008 7:38:46 PM)

it's not a fear of mine, i think anyone who found me here and read my profile would then have a more positive perception of me anyway.  i'd say it's more likely that there are people i wish would find me here.




UmbraDomina -> RE: Picture in the Profile versus Fear for you Job (11/11/2008 7:41:59 PM)

I have zero pictures of my face on the web.... how many will I have in the future? zero. The picture I use on my profile is me, simply taken not to show my face. Yes I am concerned about my face being out there on the world wide web, and someone including my clients, my coworkers, my son, my in laws, my vanilla friends, my neighbors ect ect. seeing it on a kink site.
Yes it might be a scant chance but one I am not willing to take. I also do not swap or offer pictures online, I have seen way too many people use pictures that were not their own on all kinds of sites. I have no desire to risk any of these things..... if someone is local and wants to see my face I will gladly met them for coffee or at a munch, or any socially suitable place. If they are not local then well hell why do I need to show them my face anyways?
I will not go to a play party or fetish event if there are not rules in place about pictures.
I live by pretty simple ideals for myself, of what I am willing to risk and what I am not.




OneMoreWaste -> RE: Picture in the Profile versus Fear for you Job (11/11/2008 7:46:54 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: dawntreader
quote:

ORIGINAL: OneMoreWaste
MOM???


Yes?
Aren't you supposed to be in bed?


Touché [:o]

quote:

ORIGINAL: Racquelle

Under very few circumstances would it be legal for an employer, in the US, to search for a person here, and if they did and found something, for them to use it as a means for not hiring, dismissal, or passing one over for a promotion. 


Maybe, but if you work in an "at will" state, you would need to somehow prove that you were being discriminated against in violation of a protected criteria in order to seek damages... So for the average person who gets outed to a narrow-minded boss (perhaps from being recognized "by a friend of a friend", etc)... Da Law isn't necessarily of any benefit.




AStudyInScarlet -> RE: Picture in the Profile versus Fear for you Job (11/11/2008 8:15:39 PM)

no one has any business knowing what you do in the bedroom. unless you are specifically in that industry, sex and work don't mix. that's regardless of what gets you off, vanilla or kinky. so i keep my sex life private even though i am not currently employed. it's just not anyone else's business.




mummyman321 -> RE: Picture in the Profile versus Fear for you Job (11/11/2008 8:47:45 PM)

A lot of intresting points have been made. I do admire those who feel safe enough to put their picture on their profile.

The company I work for is large but very conservative and a good company to work for. And I do not think they are on a witch hunt for me or anyone else. But I do know for a fact that they search names and email addresses via search engines and check against their employee database. I am smart enough to use a pen name so this does not concern me so much. Moreover I interface with thousands of people a year. I travel globally. There is always that chance of co-working recognizing my photo. I have no shame in my lifestyle and I do not feel that what I do is wrong in any way. At the same time I know that if the company was aware I was on such a site it would endager or end my career with the company.




mummyman321 -> RE: Picture in the Profile versus Fear for you Job (11/11/2008 8:56:47 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Racquelle

Under very few circumstances would it be legal for an employer, in the US, to search for a person here, and if they did and found something, for them to use it as a means for not hiring, dismissal, or passing one over for a promotion. I have heard anecdotal stories of employers hunting on myspace, but never actually met any HR reps who would bother. Typically most background checking is performed by a contracted company, and none of the ones I know would violate the FCRA (which governs background reporting) by doing something so foolish.


Actually many companies have a "Code of Conduct" policy just like the NFL does. If you violate their code of conduct and professional responsibility they can fire your for that even though it does not happen during company time. This is especially true for people who's professions bring them into contact with children.

And if you go search the news articles many people who do get fired for posting something on Myspace or Facebook, its usually due to a co-worker telling all their buddies at work to go look. Most large employers have software in place to detect when everyone is visiting the same website.




switchtosub -> RE: Picture in the Profile versus Fear for you Job (11/11/2008 9:21:24 PM)

Company "Code of Conduct" rules apply to any number of industries where employees would be in a position to take advantage of others. Nursing homes come to mind. Most vanillas wouldn't want our kind of perv giving Grandma a nekkid bath. I guess hospitals and bus drivers and hotel bellboys would also be included. You can most definitely be fired for violating the code if you're found on a site like this. That's why a couple levels of anonymity and some forethought with your photos is a very good idea. It's like the general population thinks BDSM is a communicable disease from which they have to be protected. If they only knew...




NuevaVida -> RE: Picture in the Profile versus Fear for you Job (11/11/2008 9:24:37 PM)

No I do not fear it. But I do like to keep work and personal life separate.




GMRTGS -> RE: Picture in the Profile versus Fear for you Job (11/11/2008 11:26:43 PM)

I  agree with mummyman here. Back in the old days no one would know who was whom even when we met up at a gathering NO one used  real names, everything was underground for a very good reason. Nothing has changed.We are less secure today then we ever have been with the mainstream, just gives them  an easier way to paint a target on you. We have lost everything, including Me losing a security clearance over this way of life. So do not think for a moment it cannot happen because it can. I have seen up front and personal, how Dom's, slaves and such have lost custody of family members over being outed by an ex,family, or vanilla friends.I am not going to jot down what has happened in our life these many years.  Suffice to say we have personally encountered more then our share of people who will use whatever means they can to force their moral mindset on your life.So unless you are willing to live your life under surveillance by someone take precautions. We had a slave, we allowed to come here from another situation,one where the guy was a drug dealer and extremely abusive vanilla to wards her and her family. A while ago her own family came to our  house to rescue her from her deviant ways, when confronted that she was an adult, they chose the low road and used protective services from another State to force her to leave us. Now she is back in a miserable captive situation by  her own family and her ex in laws over her own lifestyle choices. Hell, today jobs that would never have been under background checks are routinely now done, as well as credit checks. They know more about a prospective employee before they hire you then most spouses do.You can lose your job based on perceived compromises by your respective employers.Why do you think more and more employers are requiring new employees to sign a contract for hire these days,it is completely compliant with the labor laws.I know of several cases where employees have been fired for violating the code of conduct of their employer. Case in point Micky employees,I once graced the halls of the kingdom and know of a few who were let go when the company found out they were doing something that the company did not like on their own time.So be very careful of what you choose and to whom you confide in.Someone will always use your  personal activities for their hidden agendas.Especially our own governments. Just some thoughts. Edited I do not fear. I just have learned through hardnose experience not to trust anyone




myotherself -> RE: Picture in the Profile versus Fear for you Job (11/11/2008 11:28:12 PM)

~fr~

I work with children, and have to be very careful about my presence on sites like cm.  I never put pics up, and I have a separate email account only for use with these sites.   If my employers found my pics on here, I'd lose my job and my career.

I had a facebook account which used my first name and a made-up surname.  No pics, no mention of my job and changed my home town.  Some of the kids I work with still found it and mentioned it at work.  Fortunately I'd only used it to play a particular online game and hadn't linked to any of my kinky friends, or joined any bdsm groups.

So now I have a facebook profile, but it's totally untraceable to me.  And hopefully my cm profile is untraceable to me too.

I hate having to lie about such an important part of my life, but I'm really left with no choice.




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