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LadyTeazer -> RE: Kinky Jews (11/16/2008 6:02:35 PM)
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ORIGINAL: RealSub58
I want a liturgy and a dogma. I want to study and learn my religion, and worship with others who believe as I do. I do not want to feel estranged from Gawd because I am not adhering to the cathecism.
It seems you want a dogma and liturgy that is to your liking.... you want control, structure, but are unwilling to submit to the control and sturucture of a religious institution.
BossyShoeBitch But your reason has to be a valid one. Why do you feel you want to be a Jew? THAT is the question you need to ponder and be ready to answer sincerely. Very well stated. Wonders if she knows the answer? Catholic to Jew all for a set of rule and regs you don't want to follow anyway.AquaticSub Judaism does have rules and guidelines for sex, from everything to the circumstances to what forms of birth control are acceptable due to the religious laws of not altering the body. I want a congregation to worship with, but I see no point in joining a religion which is going to give me a rash about how I live.
You want Identification with, a religious social community that you finds meets your standards on how you live.Won't happen. Might I suggest you start your own religion?
Catholics have a Cathecism. A book of rules about what we're supposed to believe and what will happen to us if we don't. Have you even browsed the Torah? Look at Leviticus and you will pass out with all the laws on how to live! Includes cooking, sex during menstruation.........
My impression is Jews study all their lives. Not only the Old Testament, but the language of Hebrew and the Torah. I'm not sure whether they have Canonical lawyers, as Catholics do. (Man, those Jesuits are some smart folks.) Well I am sure the higher archy of the Cathlic persausion "study" all the time. They came up with pergatory, they come up with new rules to live by yearly or with change of Pope.
I want a liturgy and a dogma. I want to study and learn my religion, and worship with others who believe as I do. I do not want to feel estranged from Gawd because I am not adhering to the cathecism.
It's God, not Gawd. You might find yourself estranged from Jehovah/Yayah = God if you refuse to follow the laws of the Torah. Religious institutions have rules, laws and regulations to keep you confined in a box, obedient, submissive. You break down a wall in this institution and you are free to break rules, walk away (as you seem to be doing with Catholisim) and you wonder into yet another institution with rules, regs and laws. came4U Can't you even tone it down a bit long enough to learn, discuss and pray without being in an all fire hurry to worry about what they will think about your personal traits.
Maybe until you have the maturity level to forget about kink and what people think for a day and you can be be fully and genuinely immersed in Judiasm, you will not be recognized as 'becoming faithful' to any God Very well stated.greeneyedreamerBUT on the other hand if you do whatever you want and disregard the laws of your church or synagogue, then just shut up. Very well stated as she will be looking for yet another form of control whose rules, regs and laws she cannot submit to.
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Well said everyone. [:D]
My first thought in reading OP's comments is that she seems to have a lot of anger inside her about something. I tried several times to pull up her profile, to find out more about her, and what might be the cause of that inner anger. Kept coming up "Profile Not Found". Hmmmmmmm.......... Kinda peculiar, no?
She seems overly worried about being accepted (anywhere) because she thinks she is kinky. My instinct tells me that she has not/cannot accept herself as being kinky, and hence, is worried what other people will think of her once they find out her 'secret'. If you're so concerned that people will not accept you because of your kink, there is an easy solution to that -- don't tell them! Unless.... you *want* to be rejected by others, and the best way you can see to make that happen is to tell them that you are kinky, purely for the shock/horror/disdain value. Sounds like the only one 'giving her a rash about the way she lives' is herself.
You want to convert to Judaism, but even before you have fully explored what that involves, you are already saying that you WON'T do this (keep Kosher), and you WON'T do that (cover your hair in public). Is disobedience a kink of yours? ALL religions have rules/laws/guidelines on how you are to live your life, and what consequences follow if you don't. Religion is not a buffet where you can pick and choose what you want to folllow -- you take the religion as a complete package, or you don't take it at all.
I am a lapsed Catholic myself. I was raised in a very strict household, and in no way, shape or form do I feel "entitled" to be cheesed off at the church. I disagreed with many of their teachings and beliefs, so I just stopped going to services.
What truly offends me about the OP's comment's is the opening line -- that she lives in f**king Cleveland, Ohio. So what?? I am PROUD to say that I am a native Clevelander!! I love it here. Have lived here all of my life. Wouldn't want to live anywhere else. This is **home**. If you find f**king Cleveland to be such a terrible place to live, then don't let the Terminal Tower hit you in the ass on your way out.
You think that there is a lot of bigotry here? What makes you think that this is any different from any other city, state, or country that you might find yourself in? Perhaps you are choosing to hang with people who are like that. Heck, you've never hung with me, so you don't know how liberal I am.
And lastly, the correct word is "shikseh", not 'shiksa'. If you want to be Jewish, learn the language. (Yiddish, as well as Hebrew) I should know from a shikseh, because I am one. [:)] My college sweetheart was Jewish, and that was his pet name for me. We went to Kent State University, and all these years later, we are still *great* friends.
LadyTeazer -- proud and happy Owner of [saberwolf34]
and still a WOW -- Wonderful Older Woman
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