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RE: Sold !! - 11/20/2008 8:41:09 AM   
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See, missturbation saw it as rippin on her fantasy and you saw it as humor....I thought she was just sharing an evening with her master. I guess we won't know unless girl comes back and tell us.


misst put her fantasy out here and asked for others opinions. She's a smart girl and she knows that how that goes. Not everyone is going to see it the same way. I don't think she was expecting everyone to share her view.


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RE: Sold !! - 11/20/2008 8:42:55 AM   
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RE: Sold !! - 11/20/2008 9:02:21 AM   
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See, missturbation saw it as rippin on her fantasy and you saw it as humor....I thought she was just sharing an evening with her master. I guess we won't know unless girl comes back and tell us.


misst put her fantasy out here and asked for others opinions. She's a smart girl and she knows that how that goes. Not everyone is going to see it the same way. I don't think she was expecting everyone to share her view.



I was talking about the "porn" post and how different people read it differently. You could be right though and that was her ending to the fantasy in the op. It makes more sense that way. Maybe that's why she used the term Master X.

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RE: Sold !! - 11/20/2008 9:19:25 AM   
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Every slave ring that you hear about getting busted has the same story.  Girl in one country is promised a bunch of fake crap and then shiped to another country where she is forced into prostitution.  Then various measures like passports, greancards, debts, and brute force are used to never let the "slave" out with their life.  Since the internet the real slave trade has exploded.  Mostly its girls from poor countrys going to developed countrys, but there is also a lot of shipping slaves between developed countries as well.  It is easier to keep the girls enslaved after shipping them to another country.  It is easier to capture victims in the first place by promising things that you have no intention of giving.  It is unlikely to me that this random person you met plans on following a different script than this tried and true story I just laid out.  Protect yourself.  There are ways to make this fantasy very real without becoming an enslaved whore that is not getting half of the money when the time comes to be paid.



What he said.

This point really needs to be hammered relentlessly.  The e-mail slavery offer has a whole lot of red flags suggesting anything from fakery to dangerous criminality.  Protect yourself.  You can enjoy your kink in a much safer way.

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RE: Sold !! - 11/20/2008 10:39:41 AM   
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Recently i had a really interesting cmail. It was from a Dominant who claims he runs a 'slave ring'. He was basically saying he thought i had what it took to be put on the block and sold and would i like the chance. ....

....i'm curious to others views on this subject bad and good. Every fancied being sold yourself? Ever fancied buying a slave? Is it just to close to something out of a novel for you? Any other thoughts?
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...He reckoned anything from $20,000 upwards depending on skills, looks and other things. Consider a two year contract though on $20,000, my share would be $10,000....
If money were no object for me I'd certainly consider it as a buyer.
$10,000. a year isn't so bad for domestic help.
Add the role of sex slave into that and it could shape up to be a real bargain.

I'd like to have a slave. Two years is a long time, though. I'd be a little skeptical that the slave could really perform and conform to an obligation like that.
How would I be able to ascertain that the investment I'm considering is a good one?

What assurance could the dom/broker provide? None that I can imagine.
(That they should get a 50% share seems high, therfor.)

For that reason, I think I'd want the money placed in an escrow account, to be paid in allocations for services rendered ("services" here meaning each month of the contract completed, for example); not all up front for services promised or, more likely, services merely imagined.

(Warning: Soapbox time follows; )
I'd be skeptical because money is not always a predictable thing as a motivator.

There is a large segment of the population, always has been but it seems even more prevalent right now, that believes that merely having money means you have earned it, and that you are under no further obligation to perform.
They believe in the pure essence of things and that appearances do not lie. Because a thing that is pure is just one thing, not a multitude of things, and therefor does not have an appearance that contradicts what it truly is. It is true to itself. Therefor, the mere fact of having means that it has earned what it has, and mitigates any sense of having to deliver further.


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RE: Sold !! - 11/20/2008 11:21:15 AM   
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RE: Sold !! - 11/20/2008 11:28:06 AM   
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changed my mind ................

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Great, I go back and read her post to find out what the hell your talking about and when I get back, your post is gone. Still have no idea what the problem was, but I hope it worked out for ya.

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RE: Sold !! - 11/20/2008 11:41:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'd like to address this from the perspective of hiring full-time, live-in domestic help or hiring someone for a scientific laboratory on a full-time basis (which is more similar than people might think, just like biochemistry is an -awful- lot like cooking!). Rather than looking at this as a case of selling -people-, it is probably more accurate to look at it as a case of arranging contracts or labor-bonds.

Many people here have indicated that they'd have a problem bringing someone in that they didn't really know, and there is the sentiment that giving that person a 1-2 year contract seems excessive... after all, what if they don't work out? While this is a good point, we've had the same experience with hiring on long-term domestic help contracts. You hire through an agency, for a specified term-of-contract (ours was 2 years). You don't get to meet the person the agency sends first. You get whomever they send through the door. You have the agency's word that this person has been vetted, been through a criminal background check, and is bonded... but you won't find out whether that's the case or not unless something happens. You also only have the agency's word that this person can do the work that they say they can do. If you're hiring through an agency that brings in help from outside the country, you're also required, sight unseen, to put up a bond securing that individual's right to work in the country and guaranteeing their income for the specified period. The process is the same if you're hiring scientists and lab technicians, especially from outside the country. Technically, there is a clause on most contracts in the event that they don't work out... but it has to be a really serious breach before you can actually get -rid- of the person. Otherwise, they go through arbitrated "retraining" and are sent back to work for you until they screw up again, at which point, they're "retrained" yet again... only after a -year- of documented problems can you request termination of the contract... and at that point, instead of refunding you, the agency almost -always- has the option of replacing the individual with another individual of their choosing (and if they're foreign workers, you have to come up with yet ANOTHER bond for INS... because those aren't transferrable and can't be refunded until the person either becomes a citizen or returns to hir own country).

Maybe it's because we have experience outside of the kink/fetish/lifestyle community, compounded by the fact that we're looking for servants/fetish expressionists, not romantic partners, but I don't really see the purchase of a slave contract on the terms mentioned in the OP as being that much different from other service-related contract situations. One thing I would want to have completely clear is what would happen in the event of breach-of-contract (if the person left, I would expect that any monies paid out would be refunded... at least for any incomplete term of the contract). Another thing I'd want to know is what kind of resolution I could expect if the person was -nothing- like what was described.



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RE: Sold !! - 11/20/2008 12:23:40 PM   
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Master X enters the room that I'm occupying , busily scrubbing the piece of floor where he missed the piss-bucket, and signalled me to crawl across to him and kneel before him. He proceeded to open his fly and flop out his enormous, saggy, wart ridden bollocks and gestured for me to begin licking them clean from his encounter with another slave earlier that day. I  did so as I held my breath and controlled my dry heaves from the scent eminating from his scrunched and smeg ridden foreskin.
Moments later, with a stumpy, half erection he moved behind me, lifted my work-a-day skirt and mounted me which , thankfully, I could barely feel while I fixed my gaze on the piece of unscrubbed floor that I would have to attend to when he'd finished unloading his sperm.
I thanked him for his attentions and crawled back to my task as I was dismissed by the closing of the door. I glanced down at my calloused knees and the redness surrounding the dry areas of hard skin and dipped my cracked, swollen hands back into the cold water to find the scrubbing brush.

Yum yum.

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Ok i get the picture that you have no interest in being sold, the fantasy or otherwise. But do you really have to pull someone elses fantasy apart in such a crass way?


I have actually mentioned further up the thread that I DO have that type of fantasy. What I wrote above, in fantasy, is close to where my mind drifts from time to time.

It's also a glimpse of what *could be*...and if someone's seriously considering *auction slavery*... this is as likely to be the case as not.

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RE: Sold !! - 11/20/2008 12:33:14 PM   
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Master X enters the room that I'm occupying , busily scrubbing the piece of floor where he missed the piss-bucket, and signalled me to crawl across to him and kneel before him. He proceeded to open his fly and flop out his enormous, saggy, wart ridden bollocks and gestured for me to begin licking them clean from his encounter with another slave earlier that day. I  did so as I held my breath and controlled my dry heaves from the scent eminating from his scrunched and smeg ridden foreskin.
Moments later, with a stumpy, half erection he moved behind me, lifted my work-a-day skirt and mounted me which , thankfully, I could barely feel while I fixed my gaze on the piece of unscrubbed floor that I would have to attend to when he'd finished unloading his sperm.
I thanked him for his attentions and crawled back to my task as I was dismissed by the closing of the door. I glanced down at my calloused knees and the redness surrounding the dry areas of hard skin and dipped my cracked, swollen hands back into the cold water to find the scrubbing brush.

Yum yum.

agirl






That sounds hot. You single?



Read her profile...her curent owners are about to retire and she is looking. Maybe you just got lucky.


Read her profile.......and you'll find that you are referring to someone else entirely. My owner has no intentions of retiring.


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RE: Sold !! - 11/20/2008 12:54:19 PM   
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Master X enters the room that I'm occupying , busily scrubbing the piece of floor where he missed the piss-bucket, and signalled me to crawl across to him and kneel before him. He proceeded to open his fly and flop out his enormous, saggy, wart ridden bollocks and gestured for me to begin licking them clean from his encounter with another slave earlier that day. I  did so as I held my breath and controlled my dry heaves from the scent eminating from his scrunched and smeg ridden foreskin.
Moments later, with a stumpy, half erection he moved behind me, lifted my work-a-day skirt and mounted me which , thankfully, I could barely feel while I fixed my gaze on the piece of unscrubbed floor that I would have to attend to when he'd finished unloading his sperm.
I thanked him for his attentions and crawled back to my task as I was dismissed by the closing of the door. I glanced down at my calloused knees and the redness surrounding the dry areas of hard skin and dipped my cracked, swollen hands back into the cold water to find the scrubbing brush.

Yum yum.

agirl







that was an interesting bit of fantasy porn, but I am not sure how it fits into the thread?

that could have been her way to make a crack at this fantasy or maybe she was just trying to be humorous.



I'm not having a *crack* at the fantasy of it. It's one of mine. It was written on the lighthearted side but all the same ......why would it be seen as something that couldn't/wouldn't be the case in reality?

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RE: Sold !! - 11/20/2008 1:08:46 PM   
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I'm not having a *crack* at the fantasy of it. It's one of mine. It was written on the lighthearted side but all the same ......why would it be seen as something that couldn't/wouldn't be the case in reality?

agirl


I imagine it could wind up in an infinite amount of slight variations. It just seemed odd that you went to the exact opposite..that's all. If you'll notice I did say you maybe were being humorous. It just seemed like a lot of spent imagination to say something other than what if he wasn't a nice guy. I think actually that one might be a little more realistic than the other but that's based on how I would treat a female in that situation.

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RE: Sold !! - 11/20/2008 2:22:08 PM   
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I'm not having a *crack* at the fantasy of it. It's one of mine. It was written on the lighthearted side but all the same ......why would it be seen as something that couldn't/wouldn't be the case in reality?

agirl


I imagine it could wind up in an infinite amount of slight variations. It just seemed odd that you went to the exact opposite..that's all. If you'll notice I did say you maybe were being humorous. It just seemed like a lot of spent imagination to say something other than what if he wasn't a nice guy. I think actually that one might be a little more realistic than the other but that's based on how I would treat a female in that situation.


It took very little imagination at all....fertile minds and all that. Is it THAT awful a scenario....lol?

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RE: Sold !! - 11/20/2008 2:34:20 PM   
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In actual fact as most people know i'm not really that into emotional connection anyways. 


I get that!  and I am sure many don't understand it.

Service is not about romance (to me at least) or emotional connection nonsense.  Some people (not sure if that is how you feel) just enjoy being in their own state of mind even through misery.  I know I do.  Having things around me that make my life easier and that pamper me only hinders me.  Hard to explain.

Emotional attachment? geez louise people, some people even marry the man of their dreams and end up scrubbing floors for absolutely no appreciation and daily for that matter.  Many grow tired of their spouse within months or even years...yet stick it out.

On that note, it takes a BIG man to be able to handle a gal with such tone/note of coldness to her.  Most men I know of want a woman to be in adoration, admiration or in love with them.  This defeats the main object of slavery in general.  To give, to a total stranger, your all, with as much vigor as you can is true slavery IMO.  If your Master is faultless and so full of love, how can he, why would he even treat us like the lil heathens we are?  That to me, is a vanilla who is just a sick bastard and a low self-esteem.  Imagine such trickery as using words like 'love and respect' to gain full influence over a girl, how utterly cheesy.  Full slave service is just that...SERVICE, Nothing more, nothing less. If I wanted a bf with no scruples who is just an asshole, easy to find lol.  A slave is not always a smiley pile of adoring goo.  Nor is a Master.  A Master would use enough force as to not break her so as much as possible could be done and for longivity-sake.

I used to love to read romance novels (loooooong ago) where the Viking found his slave bla bla it was a long battle to get them to get along, she fights him, he has to dominate and become more harsh, eventually he misses her, she misses him..and voila, they love eachother and become *cough, equals. (insert gagging noise here).
This was the point that disappointed me...hated the endings, no more chaos and enchantment, vulgarity or abuse. Bla.

I get what you are saying and possibly thinking.  I have thought the same thing and if not for my um I would have done the same thing. 

Hard to explain the need to be exploited without having to need a pat on the back or without hiding nickles in your sock.  I am not sure if it was my need for any dismissal of responsibility of action and thought or if I truly just enjoy feeling small, measly and for lack of another better words--drowing in misery.  It somehow makes me feel alive, reflective and without hesitation for a need for careful thought and action...aka, letting things fall as they may.

The only comparason I can think of is 'extreme' devoutees of any given religion, that are slave to that religion and only that religion.  This type often starves, fasts, goes cold, hungry, works endless and tirelessly for that proposed 'God' and feels the misery is for a better good of themselves and those around them.  Am I on the wrong track here with the OP?

It is so difficult to explain a wanting for slavery in its deepest and darkest places without all the dungeons and dragon jargon of fantasy world people who still include being taken to dinner and movies or shoe shopping as rewards to such slavery.

Can't put it into words, but I do get it, OP.

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RE: Sold !! - 11/20/2008 3:23:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: agirl

Master X enters the room that I'm occupying , busily scrubbing the piece of floor where he missed the piss-bucket, and signalled me to crawl across to him and kneel before him. He proceeded to open his fly and flop out his enormous, saggy, wart ridden bollocks and gestured for me to begin licking them clean from his encounter with another slave earlier that day. I  did so as I held my breath and controlled my dry heaves from the scent eminating from his scrunched and smeg ridden foreskin.
Moments later, with a stumpy, half erection he moved behind me, lifted my work-a-day skirt and mounted me which , thankfully, I could barely feel while I fixed my gaze on the piece of unscrubbed floor that I would have to attend to when he'd finished unloading his sperm.
I thanked him for his attentions and crawled back to my task as I was dismissed by the closing of the door. I glanced down at my calloused knees and the redness surrounding the dry areas of hard skin and dipped my cracked, swollen hands back into the cold water to find the scrubbing brush.

Yum yum.

agirl






That sounds hot. You single?



Read her profile...her curent owners are about to retire and she is looking. Maybe you just got lucky.


Read her profile.......and you'll find that you are referring to someone else entirely. My owner has no intentions of retiring.


agirl



Ooops, your right, now if I can only remember who that was......I'll just use the old standby and blame it on old age.

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RE: Sold !! - 11/20/2008 3:41:10 PM   
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It took very little imagination at all....fertile minds and all that. Is it THAT awful a scenario....lol?

agirl



Um, yup - the description of the smells alone made it awful for me ... lol

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RE: Sold !! - 11/20/2008 3:52:41 PM   
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I know there are a whole host of issues that could be raised with being sold into slavery. I know it definately would not be everyones cup of tea, understatement perhaps? However i'm curious to others views on this subject bad and good. Every fancied being sold yourself? Ever fancied buying a slave? Is it just to close to something out of a novel for you? Any other thoughts?


i don't see why anyone would need someone else to "sell" them into slavery.  Why not just offer yourself as being available to become another's slave, for however long and under whatever conditions you choose?  That's what i did and i found what i was looking for.  Oh, sure, i guess it's not as exciting as the "being sold into slavery" fantasy but, then again, real life has a way of turning fantasies into nightmares or, at the very least, huge disappointments. 
 
BTW, about a year ago, my Master was contacted by a man "selling" slaves.  After having a few interesting conversations with him, my Master decided, rather than give this guy His hard-earned money to get Him another slave, He would just do it the 'old-fashioned' way and look for a free one, the same way He got me.
 
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RE: Sold !! - 11/20/2008 4:11:21 PM   
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It took very little imagination at all....fertile minds and all that. Is it THAT awful a scenario....lol?

agirl

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...I glanced down at my calloused knees and the redness surrounding the dry areas of hard skin and dipped my cracked, swollen hands back into the cold water to find the scrubbing brush.
To me, this is the worst part. I imagine fearful chapping...

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RE: Sold !! - 11/20/2008 5:00:01 PM   
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RE: Sold !! - 11/20/2008 5:04:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		idunno...im more worried about the smegma....couldnt he have at least been free of the cheese?....otherwise....very hawt.

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