variation30 -> RE: Obese has right to 2 airline seats- (11/23/2008 7:53:59 PM)
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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl i did my homework. and the land is just that.. land. being native american, we feel differently about land ownership that most. but thats not neither here nor there. yes, almost every business has been regulated to death. when you go to a government asking for a bail out, you are asking the people of that government for the money. sure isnt going to be the government giving you that money without some taxes being involved. almost everyone pays taxes, unless you are either not working, or, tax evading. eh, it happens. so, out of that many, how many are obese? I think what we have to keep in mind is why a lot of these industries need bailouts? let's look at the auto industry. take a gander at the difference between gm/ford/chrysler's stocks and toyota's stocks. what is the difference? toyota hasn't been as fucked over by as many federal policies as the american industries have. due to rather moronic laws concerning unions, gm/ford/chrysler have been forced into paying their employees much more than the market price for their labor is worth. they also have to meet other industry regulations on all their vehicles that it's next to impossible for them to be competitive. in fact, it's very difficult for them to do anything but fail miserably time and time again. the same can be said for the airline industry (or any heavily regulated industry). perhaps if they were allowed to run their businesses as they saw fit, they wouldn't want bail outs. and the government would also have no incentive to bail them out. but let's talk about obese people's 'right' to the airline's property because they pay taxes. so because their tax money (or, if the bailout isn't paid through tax money, their property is negatively impacted by the governments buying/selling of securities which is required for the government to make loans to fund bailouts) towards a project, they have a right to use it 'reasonably'. well...we are forced to buy into the american dollar as it is illegal for anyone to make a competiting currency (see: the liberty dollar). and you are correct, the government has no money. the only money the government has is what it can take from its citizens. now, not only are we forced into a currency, we are forced to pay it's "maintainance" and upkeep. we pay the people in the treasury, we pay for the mints, we pay for the regulators and speculators, we payfor the federal banks, we pay for the fdic, we pay the fed, we pay for the entire economic system. my question is this - because we are forced to deal in a currency and are forced to support this monetary system, what rights do we have to the product we support? can we claim we have rights to other people's money (and the things bought by that money) because we were forced to support it through taxes? can we take this money, no matter whose hands it is in? quote:
now, lets talk discrimination. how about we say no men of your ethnicity were allowed to attend colleges below the mason dixon line, no matter how much your parents paid into the system, no matter where you went to school, where you lived. doesnt matter... you cant go because of your skin color. is it a public or private college? if it's a private college, that's 100% fine. if it's a public college, my opinion on inclusion is the same as my opinion on the handicapped having ramps built to buildings their taxes support. again, this isn't a rational argument I'm making, it's 100% subjective. since they've already had their money taken (probably against their will), I feel that they should have access to these services. quote:
im sure, in your greed infested mind that you freely admit too, you would be seeking legal recourse. yes? if it were public, I'd support it. if it were private, not at all. quote:
hmmm.. btw.. ever heard the expression.. public domain? I have, and if I had it my way, there would be no public domain or public property - only private property.
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