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BKSir -> RE: Anal (11/23/2008 9:33:04 PM)
enemas FOR play, not my thing, but, a lot of people are into that. Nothing wrong with it, if you like it, go for it. That does bring up cleanliness though. As a nurse, I'm sure you realize that, things that go in won't ALWAYS come out clean, even with an enema shortly before hand. Just a fact of life. Sooo, have a soft towel or something along those lines handy for fingers and other things. Thankfully they wash. Condoms are also a good thing for this particular reason.

DavanKael -> RE: Anal (11/23/2008 9:51:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: porcelain26 Davan - what a wonderful site, thank you so much!!! The bath idea is fantastic. I don't take many baths, but that's definately a great incentive! Okay...now that I'm feeling more 'open' about this topic...my next question (wow, can we say spastic deviation here? sorry everyone!) is about enemas. Recommend them for play or no?? I've never done them before, but I do harbor a secret fascination with them. Hi, porcelain26---- You're welcome. :> Her site is fabulous; glad you like it and hope you find it useful too. I'd probably go more off my rocker than is my standard fare were I deprived of my baths. Enemas: have never had one. Had a colonic once with an ex-bf. < shrug > It was a rather neutral experience; had there been any level of eroticism about the thing, I suppose I could have found facets sexual. There wasn't, so I didn't. I am apragmatist regarding anal: cleanliness is important but it's gonna be rustic at some point, so if someone's phobic about things being a bit messy now and again, they need to come to terms with it or they're bound to freak out (And potentially negatively impact their partner too). You mentioned that you're fascinated with enemas. If you are fascinated, why not mention your interest to your Owner? Bestr wishes, Davan

slavegirljoy -> RE: Anal (11/23/2008 9:57:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: porcelain26 How did you get started with anal sex? How did you learn to enjoy it? If you had a bad experience and are now an anal queen/king, how did you get to that point? Any advice will be GREATLY appreciated! The very first time i was fucked in the ass was by my (now ex) husband on our first date and He used no lubricant, at all. He did cook me a very nice Italian meal and serve me some very nice Italian wine and had some very nice Frank Sinatra playing in the background. All of this, combined with the way he just took me and did with me as he pleased, in a very pleasing manner, without any discussion about what he was going to do and without asking me first, all of this made it very easy for me to be very pliable and open to him. In fact, he was inside my ass and fucking away before i knew it. He went so easily from being in my pussy to being in my ass that i didn't have time to think about it or get tense or object. And, it felt so good, i didn't want him to stop. i loved anal from then on. Other than saliva and vaginal secretions, i have never used any lubricants and have always had very pleasurable anal sex. i don’t use chemical lubricants inside me. The only difficulty is getting the cock passed the sphincter muscle. Once the penis penetrates beyond that point and is well inside, there is nothing but pleasant sensations. Using a couple of fingers that are well coated with saliva or pussy juice to “warm-up” the rectum is all that i have ever needed to get my sphincter relaxed and ready for a cock to squeeze through it. Wearing a butt plug beforehand is helpful, too. And, using an enema first can help in taking away any fear of a possible messy accident from happening. i’m not saying that no one should use chemical lubricants. In fact, i understand that many people do choose to use them. i’m just saying that, for me, they aren't necessary and i don't have any use for them. And, i have never had any injury or bad experience from not using them. joy Master David’s erotic-domestic slave

ExKat -> RE: Anal (11/23/2008 10:08:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: porcelain26 He is encouraging me to explore myself, as in touch myself, play with myself, masturbate at my own comfort level, etc. What he said! Being comfortable with just you and your ass will go a long way towards being comfortable with him and your ass. Play not for the purpose of shoving something up there...play with the purpose of finding some pleasure back there. I second the vast majority on the point of lube. However, as an aside, there is such a thing as too much lube...I heard a horror story of a guy who went waaaay over the top squirting lube up into his girlfriend...and it had...well, an enema effect. Granted, I just heard this from a friend of a friend...but anyways. Yes, use lots of lube. I don't know much about the different types-I use astroglide because it doesn't make me too sticky afterwards and I can buy it at the grocery store. I do advise against fancy types of flavored or "tingly" type lubes....fire + ass, not a great combination (unless you like a little fire sometimes).

NuevaVida -> RE: Anal (11/23/2008 11:56:40 PM)
Any time I was faced with something new that scared me, I was instructed to go through a visualization process of everything being wonderfully successful and enjoyable, and journal it as I did. This helped develop a positive frame of thinking, rather than a fear driven one. Visualize everything going right, rather than dwell on what your fears are and things going wrong. Like joy, I was rarely afforded lubricant or stretched beforehand, and I loved the power I felt from him over me when he did this. Doing it like that did have its pain at first, but I knew if I relaxed myself the pain would go away within seconds and in no time I would relax around him and enjoy what he was doing. But visualization helped me enormously in many new and scary areas. I highly recommend it.

Denae -> RE: Anal (11/24/2008 7:06:05 AM)
I recommend Anal Eaze (or something like it) and a lot of foreplay and patience!

aravain -> RE: Anal (11/24/2008 10:45:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: porcelain26 Okay, so obviously, lube is extremely important....Any recommendations as to the best brands? I have astroglide and I love the stuff for vaginal sex, but I'm not sure I was too impressed when I tried it (the one time) on my ass. YOU MUST USE ANAL LUBE. Ok, maybe not must... but it'll work much much much much much (getting the point?) much better. It'll feel a lot better too. Anal lube is much thicker than vaginal lube, and is meant 'to do the deed' whereas vaginal lube is not. So use the right lube! :D I like ID because it stays pretty slippery, unless he's been pounding away for more than 20 minutes or so XD even then it only needs another drop or so and it becomes pretty slippery again. For toy-play it's perfect.

littleone35 -> RE: Anal (11/24/2008 11:47:12 AM)
I agree anal eaze but also lots and lots of lube. I had had a very bad experience when a ex play partner tried anal with me. Master siad it is something he enojoy's so i told him i would try for him. We wehnt very slow from a toy to a slighty larger toy, to anal beads (those are amazing) to him. Yes it did hurt until he was in then i started to enjoy it. I learned if you can push back againest him it makes the intinal insertation eaiser. I know you will be nervous but you have to stay relaxed also. The girl who said she would do it for him now requests it. I still enjoy the regular vaginal sex a little more, but you can learn to enjoy anal too. Matt's littleone

porcelain26 -> RE: Anal (11/24/2008 2:13:02 PM)
I'm very aware of the fact that the first few times, there is probably going to some pain and discomfort involved, no matter how much lube is used and no matter how prepared I am before hand. Thankfully, Master is an expert at reading me and is able to help me process sensations that with anyone else, I'd never be able to handle. I'm very lucky to be owned by Him. I see a lot of you saying that once He's in, the pain is pretty much over...it's the whole initial penetration that's the roughest. I've done some light anal play in the past (Master was present, though it was someone else doing it), and here's what happened. This guy went incredibly slow, was unbelievably patient, and the whole experience was really great. He started off very small, and ended with my rather large vibrator up my ass. When he pushed it in, there was no force of any kind, he simply held constant, steady, gentle pressure until my body opened of it's own accord and allowed it inside. And then - I completely freaked out! I can't stress this part enough, there was NO PAIN involved in this. It did not hurt even in the slightest sense of the word...but the sensation of it terrified me. When I play with myself, I get that same sense of panic, or of being overwhelmed. I'm not hurting, it's just like sensory overload. Has anyone else dealt with that before? Any recommendations? I've heard of Anal Eaze before, but doesn't that have an anesthetic in it? I thought that you weren't suppose to use that kind of lube because pain is a sign there is something wrong and if you can't feel that, then you run the risk of getting seriously hurt?? Maybe it's a different brand of lube I'm thinking of, though.

RainydayNE -> RE: Anal (11/24/2008 3:00:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: porcelain26 It did not hurt even in the slightest sense of the word...but the sensation of it terrified me. When I play with myself, I get that same sense of panic, or of being overwhelmed. I'm not hurting, it's just like sensory overload. Has anyone else dealt with that before? Any recommendations? definitely had that happen before =p and i think when i was talking to him about it later i used that phrase, too -- "sensory overload." and i wonder if that is indeed what it is, and that feeling of near-flipping out makes you scared the most major incidence of that that i had was actually somewhere down the line of my "experiences" and not the first one. and i kinda jumped forward in some attempt at "escape" or whatever =p (later i was really disappointed with myself for doing that) since then, whenever i feel it, i just try to remind myself 1) RELAX (and it definitely helps when he notices and says it =p) 2) he knows what he's doing, 3) there isn't any reason to be scared, i'm not going to die =p there are alot of nerve endings there, and they don't get too much use, especially not in THAT way, so i'm guessing that's where it comes from? plus, i find that sometimes at the end of the overload road there's a nice little city called subspace =p and it's quite a nice place, indeed =p (there are lots of ways to get to subspace, that's just one way that will get me there) have you talked about that experience/sensation with your Owner? he'd probably find it interesting, if you haven't, and it would probably help him build his "vocabulary" in your various responses

DavanKael -> RE: Anal (11/24/2008 3:16:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: porcelain26 I'm very aware of the fact that the first few times, there is probably going to some pain and discomfort involved, no matter how much lube is used and no matter how prepared I am before hand. Thankfully, Master is an expert at reading me and is able to help me process sensations that with anyone else, I'd never be able to handle. I'm very lucky to be owned by Him. I see a lot of you saying that once He's in, the pain is pretty much over...it's the whole initial penetration that's the roughest. I've done some light anal play in the past (Master was present, though it was someone else doing it), and here's what happened. This guy went incredibly slow, was unbelievably patient, and the whole experience was really great. He started off very small, and ended with my rather large vibrator up my ass. When he pushed it in, there was no force of any kind, he simply held constant, steady, gentle pressure until my body opened of it's own accord and allowed it inside. And then - I completely freaked out! I can't stress this part enough, there was NO PAIN involved in this. It did not hurt even in the slightest sense of the word...but the sensation of it terrified me. When I play with myself, I get that same sense of panic, or of being overwhelmed. I'm not hurting, it's just like sensory overload. Has anyone else dealt with that before? Any recommendations? I've heard of Anal Eaze before, but doesn't that have an anesthetic in it? I thought that you weren't suppose to use that kind of lube because pain is a sign there is something wrong and if you can't feel that, then you run the risk of getting seriously hurt?? Maybe it's a different brand of lube I'm thinking of, though. I you read Tristan's site that we spoke of yesterday, you probably noted her saying that if you're in pain, something isn't being done properly. Thus, AnalEze would be a no-no if you're going with that thought-process. I can absolutely tell you that size, for me, doesn't matter in terms of pain. If you're fluid-bonded, avoid using condoms. I say this because I had frequent anal with a fluid bonded boyfriend who quite large and pain was infrequent. In comparison, I had anal more recently with a partner whose equipment was delightful but smaller in proportion to that of the afore-mentioned bf. We used condoms. Now, it could have been the lesser frequency but I blame greater pain substantially on the condoms; they just make an obnoxious drag (No matter how much lube; and, he preferred more lube where-as, I would probably go with less were I the decision-making party) and, upsettingly as well, provide less sensation for the male. The only other anal sex experience I can speak of was with my ex-, and he thought that he ought take a battering ram approach which sent me screeching across the bed. In general, pain doesn't bother me much but I know you're apprehensive, so take your time, do things to make you more ready, lube, and no condoms if fluid bonded are my recommendations. Davan

MasterTslave -> RE: Anal (11/24/2008 5:19:44 PM)
just go slow and use lots of lube. I enjoy anal, but you need to be relaxed or it will hurt like hell...once you are used to it, I think if feels great!

bamabbwsub -> RE: Anal (11/24/2008 6:04:49 PM)
quote: It did not hurt even in the slightest sense of the word...but the sensation of it terrified me. When I play with myself, I get that same sense of panic, or of being overwhelmed. I'm not hurting, it's just like sensory overload. Has anyone else dealt with that before? Any recommendations? Okay, this may sound kind of dumb, but I equate this "sensory overload" that you experience when you have something in your ass to the same feeling as when you deep-throat. The body is not meant to have a cock shoved all the way down the esophagus -- thus, the gag reflex kicks in. Likewise, your body isn't meant to have a large object inserted in your ass, so there is a moment of "Get it out! Get it out! Get it out NOW!!!!" as a natural reaction (at least, to me). But as with deep-throating -- assuming that you've done that before -- you work past the sensation. It's kind of a mind-over-matter thing, coupled with correct breathing techniques, that allow you to force your body to accept the unnatural invasion. Same with anal -- if it helps, try to think of it as a cock being shoved down your throat, and it may help put things in perspective. I hope that made sense. As for what kind of lube: I never knew what kind of lube my Dom used. He's the Dom, he has the experience, so don't even worry about it. Let him handle the details -- all you need to concentrate on is what a wonderful experience it will be. :)

Aszhrae -> RE: Anal (11/24/2008 6:36:14 PM)
Been reading this thread, girl's Miss has asked that girl acquire a butt plug and a medium sized dildo (6,7 or 8in). Now girl has always been fascinated with anal play, but has never done. Strange as it sounds, girl has never used toys before and of course girl is fascinated about their use as well, but perhaps that is something to be discussed in another thread. There have been responses concerning butt plugs, dildos and anal lube. So girl has a few questions: Since girl a virgin to the use of toys. Is there any particular type of butt plug girl should try to purchase, and if not found are there alternatives? Anal use of dildos, again, any particular type that girl should look for? Anal lube, Are there any that are not silicon based? (because girl has a nasty reaction to anything made of silicon, that's right in the hospital nurses go searching for the rubber gloves)

DefiantFlower -> RE: Anal (11/25/2008 2:55:31 AM)
Hmm...I deal with the panic thing myself. I actually have anxiety attacks from it, though I have them during non-sexual activities throughout the day as well. My man knows this, and I made it a point to talk to him about what was going on. How I deal with it...I'm a fan of the forced rough kinda fun. So the easiest way for me to deal with the panic is to have him keep going, maybe slow down or pause and just sit for a moment, but to not withdraw. To make me work my way through the sensations until it becomes purely pleasurable. This may not work for everyone though...just my $0.02

porcelain26 -> RE: Anal (11/25/2008 6:27:04 AM)
DefiantFlower - I have no doubt at all that that is precisely what my Owner will do, and I know darn well it'll work the best. I don't have a clue what causes my panic reaction, but it is extremely intense and very terrifying for me. I know that Master knows about this response, seeing as He's seen it up close, but that was also several years ago and I will definately remind Him the next time we discuss this topic. I think I'm actually more worried about somehow letting my Owner down when the time comes for this to happen than anything else. I keep doing all of this 'research' in the hopes that when the times arrives, I'll be mentally (if not completely physically) prepared. I know He'll do exactly what I need, when I need it, and I know He'll push me at just the right pace like He always does, and I know 100% that He will be in absolute and total control which will make things SO much easier. But there is still a part of me that's terrified that He just won't fit! laughing I know...I'm a dork, but it's part of my charm hehehe. I really appreciate everyone's feedback and advice, it means a lot to me!

RainydayNE -> RE: Anal (11/25/2008 7:35:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DefiantFlower How I deal with it...I'm a fan of the forced rough kinda fun. So the easiest way for me to deal with the panic is to have him keep going, maybe slow down or pause and just sit for a moment, but to not withdraw. To make me work my way through the sensations until it becomes purely pleasurable. This may not work for everyone though...just my $0.02 i like doing things this way, too. i tend to overreact about things that aren't a big deal, it helps to have someone else who DOESN'T do that. =p

hallieB -> RE: Anal (11/25/2008 8:28:45 AM)
In my experience it makes all the difference having someone who knows what they are doing. In my vanilla life I remember nothing but pain. I let him do it only because he enjoyed it and I took some pleasure from knowing that I had pleased him. My first really enjoyable experience was with my Master, he only used saliva and pussy juice, never had I experienced anything so sexually satisfying from another man. I was so excited before it was over I was actually f**king him. He was just there behind me on his knees and I was bouncing on him like never before. Its not something we do everytime but I welcome it. I fantasize about begging him to take me like he did that night, but I am a little shy and dont quite know how to go about it. I wouldnt want him to think bad of me. So I wait for the desire to come to him, the desire to use me for his pleasure.

Aszhrae -> RE: Anal (11/25/2008 2:49:57 PM)
Since girl is new to the use of toys and my question did not get the response. Girl decided to venture with only the shopping list girl's Miss did. Certainly would like to know if what was purchased, which of course were suggested by someone with more knowledge of such things than my self. Denae had suggested Anal Eaze, ever try to find something that was misspelled? It's Anal-Ese Also was told silicon based is bad, not so much for the individual, but bad for your toys. Unless of course the individual wants to keep replacing their toys. As said, girl was looking for assistance in what Brand Names that are best. Again it was the shopkeeper that pointed girl in the correct direction. Basix, girl was told was a good Brand Name. Girl is sure it's personal preference, but some how, just feel very uncomfortable have anything that even remotely resembles a dick inserted into me. So girl went with the Pyrex that looks like a candy cane, by DonWands. Girl thought it was cute, but was also intrigued by what the shopkeeper said, you could warm in the microwave or cool it down in the freezer, plus it cleans rather well. Girl would like to thank you for your insight concerning my purchases. Just hope Miss approves. Oh. While girl is posting. Anyone here have experience with Pyrex dildos?

RainydayNE -> RE: Anal (11/25/2008 2:54:59 PM)
i dont have any experience with pyrex anything other than cookware =p but the ability to cool it down or heat it up sounds like a lot of fun ^_^

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