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What is Monogamy? - 12/24/2005 2:40:35 AM   
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There was a flurry of posts on another thread, "Straight Woman Blues" about monogamy and it became apparent communication was breaking down in part because people did not use the word "monogamy" to mean the same thing.


When i use the word "monogamy" i mean "the condition or practice of having a single mate during a period of time" unless the couple is married; and then i use it to denote faithfulness in marriage. (See Merriam-Webster, 10th Edition.)

i think some people discard monogamy for various reasons.

It may be that they simply find it too constrictive; or that it creates too many missed opportunities; or that it requires one to choose and choosing is not within their repetorie, etc.

However, it is apparent from the other thread "Straight Woman Blues" that many people do feel they are monogamous in their relationships. It also became apparent that we were not using the word "monogamy" with a common meaning; thusly, this Op post.

Personally, i want High Monogamy. That means first and foremost that He has chosen me to help create a space within this world that belongs just to U/us. It means He is really dedicated to our relationship, as am i. Within this space we have made together, we both grow. To borrow an expression, our knowledge would be a mile deep but an inch wide. i would not know much more about men generally, but i would be an expert on my One. Our years together would be spent learning new ways to delight; to support; to comfort; to give joy. For me, High Monogamy gives me the basis for a happy, healthy relationship in which trust and respect and intimacy can grow exponentially.

High Monogamy (as i use the term) means neither party has any sexual liasion with another, third party. In a relationship like this, both parties would be entranced enough with the other that foregoing other "opportunities" would pale in comparision. As an aside, i am leery of Men my age who've never married, never fathered children, never had a lomg-term live-in relationship. It's possible they will overcome their apparent commitment phobia for me, but it's not likely.

High Monogamy also means He has no cyber-buddies; no "sex with the ex"; no obsession with porn that excludes me. It means our sexual lives are intertwined. There were suggestions on the other thread that sounded like "no Man can be satisified with just one woman". However, i know Men who are, and i want one of my own. Looking back on the Climton years, i can also say High Monogamy includes not getting a bj from another woman; and "is" means "at the present time" not "right this minute". There is a covenant in High Monogamy that no one will lie. If one party wants to end it, they will say so; not just lie and cheat their way out. They will act with dignity and respect for one another.

On a side note, one characteristic i am looking for in a Man is that He has a circle of friends and He values them. Some are women and some are men, and by the time a Man reaches His 40's i'd rather expect to see several people He's known for 10, 15, or 20 years. i find it a sign of emotional maturity if a Man has been able to conduct a few relationships with women over time without crossing the boundary that separates friends from lovers. By the same token, i'd want Him to be free to continue making friends of either gender..and while i might know about them and interact with them some, they'd remain His friends. And so would mine.

i was asked on a third thread (i cannot recall which one) whether i would discuss the intimate details of my life with my One with my friends. If a problem arose, i would tend to seek the counsel of my Men friends. However, if my One forbade making such disclosures, i would obey. i'd never gossip about my One but i'd share landmarks with my girlfriends; first time together; first play; first collar. And whatever steps we take in between. Once again, if my One forbade it, i would obey. It would be hard, not being free to discuss the most important thing to happen to me since my kid was born; i gradutated law school, etc. i see this as a small issue, easily rectified.

i don't mean to put words in anyone's mouth, but it did seem to me that on the other thread, people felt they were monogamous because their partner was present/particpated/knew about every sexual encounter they had had with third parties. And, i suppose, vise versa.

To me this is a different type of monogamy. i'd think a relationship conducted in this manner would be strained if one party made an emotional investment in a third person/potential play partner. i am not sure how people who define monogamy in this way feel about friends. i'm not being critical of people who adopt this style of monogamy, but i am not well-informed about it either.

i know enough to know it's incompatible with the High Monogamy i seek. However, that's of no importance to anyone other than me, and my One, if i find Him.

One person asked me about serial monogamy....that one is easy to answer. While He & i are together, i expect Him to confine His sexual/play activities to me. The relationship may not flower into the life partnership we both seek, but without High Monogamy, there's no way to ever know.

In closing let me say, i know BDMS'ers have a panorama of behaviors concerning mating that i have not touched on. i chose to post about monogamy because it seemed we lacked a common definition. i know we could just as easily discourse on other sexual patterns, and with the same respect as monogamy. i do not feel i can claim the moral high ground (a lonely place anyway) because i seek High Monogamy. i do not urge anyone else to adopt my views.

The purpose of this Op post is to put a bit of flesh on the term High Monogamy (as i use it) , and to invite others with divergent views on monogamy to post.

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RE: What is Monogamy? - 12/24/2005 4:18:18 AM   
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to me monogamy is one on one. i dont feel you should have to prove your manhood, womanhood by being with more than one person. if you feel the need to have more than one then i am not the person for you.

to make a relationship work the two involved need to concentrate on making each other happy. when you throw another into the mix then to me its not worth having.

i only want one man for love sex etc. i would hope that he would only want and need one. the only reason i would think that a man wants two and more is to try to prove something to himself and to others how much a man he is.
more than one means you arent sure if the first one is going to work so you have another on the side just in case. but before i get jumped on .... this is my opinion and my thoughts.
if you arent happy with just one person than you are not the one for me.

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RE: What is Monogamy? - 12/24/2005 4:46:25 AM   
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candy
many of us on this site are monogomous w/in the commitment of our relationships.

Master Brian will give me exclusivity and for that privlidege... the time may come when i seek for him the gift of fmf...
not to take that person into our dynamic in anything beyond the physical sense(and i am not bi-it is something he would get pleasure from)
and perhaps just the one time, i dunno it might float my boat to let her play w/ us on occasion( i has my top side still, that is slightly sadistic/Master likes this),
but she wont be a second in the home.i'm too much of a territiorial bitch and Master allows me to be able to be this way.

point is ,no matter how the dictionary defines it, many of us will still DO what it is that works for us.
M/s....for me is all about making Master happy...now he could very well say,too bad slut, i got another slave and chain us together...
but he doesn't....if Master wanted poly ,then thatis what he would get.

yes one can walk away from anything they dont like or wish to participate in....but their is also pushing of physical,sexual,emotional limits that a slave must trust that their Master...will expand on these , with out causing damage or harm to his property.

communication is vital, being honest when something makes you uncomfortable...these are vital tools in M/s

i dont expect anyone to believe the way i do nor to change any one's mind.

i am blessed to be first girl and if inviting another into play on occasion (like Master bday or such) helps our relationship to grow thro the shared experiecnce,who am i too limit myself and Master,besides it might be fun to top another and if master let me have control of her...well then i'ld be saying what she could n couldnt do to whom.....and that i like....
she wouldnt have to touch master at all.....maybe i'ld have her do me and Master take a toy to her, the possibilities are endless and Master wouldnt be breaking monogamy

i didnt always think this way....limits have been pushed and changed,too me it is growth....there was a time i thought exactly like you but to find a man like that.....a needle in a hay stack will be easier and you may find one that will yeah yeah yeah ya to death but , the core of it will still be there....i dont think a man exists that doesnt wish for fmf just one time, and for his s/o to give it to him, he would love you all the more

you may very well be limiting yourself ...but you have heard all this before

candy my only words for you to consider on any of this wiitwd or bdsm is this................

subs/slaves give over there power to the Dom/Master various amounts of time various amounts of control

are you truly sure the lifestyle is for you or is it a romantic notion? i would hate to see you get hurt but i sometimes wonder from your posts? i'm not triing to be mean..........just a thought

enough rambling from me

happy holidays and may you be blessed

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RE: What is Monogamy? - 12/24/2005 4:58:26 AM   
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quote:

i didnt always think this way....limits have been pushed and changed,too me it is growth....there was a time i thought exactly like you but to find a man like that.....a needle in a hay stack will be easier and you may find one that will yeah yeah yeah ya to death but , the core of it will still be there....i dont think a man exists that doesnt wish for fmf just one time, and for his s/o to give it to him, he would love you all the more

are you truly sure the lifestyle is for you or is it a romantic notion? i would hate to see you get hurt but i sometimes wonder from your posts? i'm not triing to be mean..........just a thought


fyreredsub


This is exactly the set of beliefs i struggled with on "Straight Woman Blues" and why i began another Op post. There are Men who value what High Monogamy has to offer; enough to forego fantasises like fmf.

And asking me if i'm sure? Considering i've been here since Jan '04? That is the anti-straight woman bias i felt on the other thread. It's ridiculous; BDSM can accept straight women just as it does people of any other stripe.

i'm beginning to wonder if there are woman who call themselves "bisexual" because they truely believe they will never find a Dom or Master any other way. What a shame if anyone feels coerced.

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RE: What is Monogamy? - 12/24/2005 5:02:47 AM   
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ultimately, I believe it is up to the individuals to decide what works best for them.

Like you candy, though I need monogomy in the true sense to be truly fulfilled. I am unbelievely lucky to have it - a very, very long-term monogoomous relationship with my darling Dom in every sense both in the vanilla world and in our special one.

The intamcy of some of our play is such that I cannot envision anyone else's hand on me nor can I imagine being able to watch him with someone else without my soul dying.

One of the very very best aspects of a long-term truly monogomous relationship is total, utter trust - I literally have no limits with him because I have utter trust that he will never do anything to harm me.

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RE: What is Monogamy? - 12/24/2005 5:08:18 AM   
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lol, not sure where coerced came from, but lol, wiitwd...

i am not bi---one can have fmf, without actually physical hands on touching/sex with...if i bring her in, i control.....(again limits to the mind......of others) i didnt say i let her fuck me or eat me or do anything to master... toys whips...whole big ball game,gags...mental play.................

as i said Master has given me monogomay, if i chose to bring someone into the mix or not, who knows..just idle morning pre java thoughts,
certainly didnt mean to offend...one needs not touch another beyond toys or whips candy, neither him not i....public play etc,,,,,,,,, it is not breaking monogamy in my book....your book reads different.

and what does time have to do w/ anything,lol.....

i'll stay outta your way pink,that seems to work best for us....you get way to ....cant think of a verb right now.....way too much of a touchy subject for you, and i dont care for flames on my opinions( i do remeber how you can be to me,lol)

be happy be blessed....find what works for you
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ORIGINAL: candystripper

quote:

i didnt always think this way....limits have been pushed and changed,too me it is growth....there was a time i thought exactly like you but to find a man like that.....a needle in a hay stack will be easier and you may find one that will yeah yeah yeah ya to death but , the core of it will still be there....i dont think a man exists that doesnt wish for fmf just one time, and for his s/o to give it to him, he would love you all the more

are you truly sure the lifestyle is for you or is it a romantic notion? i would hate to see you get hurt but i sometimes wonder from your posts? i'm not triing to be mean..........just a thought


fyreredsub


This is exactly the set of beliefs i struggled with on "Straight Woman Blues" and why i began another Op post. There are Men who value what High Monogamy has to offer; enough to forego fantasises like fmf.

And asking me if i'm sure? Considering i've been here since Jan '04? That is the anti-straight woman bias i felt on the other thread. It's ridiculous; BDSM can accept straight women just as it does people of any other stripe.

i'm beginning to wonder if there are woman who call themselves "bisexual" because they truely believe they will never find a Dom or Master any other way. What a shame if anyone feels coerced.

candystripper




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RE: What is Monogamy? - 12/24/2005 5:20:01 AM   
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quote:

ultimately, I believe it is up to the individuals to decide what works best for them.

Like you candy, though I need monogomy in the true sense to be truly fulfilled. I am unbelievely lucky to have it - a very, very long-term monogoomous relationship with my darling Dom in every sense both in the vanilla world and in our special one.

The intamcy of some of our play is such that I cannot envision anyone else's hand on me nor can I imagine being able to watch him with someone else without my soul dying.

One of the very very best aspects of a long-term truly monogomous relationship is total, utter trust - I literally have no limits with him because I have utter trust that he will never do anything to harm me.

SelkiePet1


Thank you for posting, Selkie. Congratulations on your happiness...may it last another 100 years.

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RE: What is Monogamy? - 12/24/2005 5:24:47 AM   
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lol, not sure where coerced came from, but lol, wiitwd...

i am not bi---one can have fmf, without actually physical hands on touching/sex with...if i bring her in, i control.....(again limits to the mind......of others) i didnt say i let her fuck me or eat me or do anything to master... toys whips...whole big ball game,gags...mental play.................

as i said Master has given me monogomay, if i chose to bring someone into the mix or not, who knows..just idle morning pre java thoughts,
certainly didnt mean to offend...one needs not touch another beyond toys or whips candy, neither him not i....public play etc,,,,,,,,, it is not breaking monogamy in my book....your book reads different.

and what does time have to do w/ anything,lol.....

i'll stay outta your way pink,that seems to work best for us....you get way to ....cant think of a verb right now.....way too much of a touchy subject for you, and i dont care for flames on my opinions( i do remeber how you can be to me,lol)

fyreredsub


i have no idea what you mean; i have never flamed you. i simply said that asking whether a straight woman belongs in BDSM seemed to me a bit bigoted.

This is "hit and run" insults and innuendo; but i cannot change you, fyreredsub. Despite everything i wish you the best.

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RE: What is Monogamy? - 12/24/2005 5:34:20 AM   
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excuse the fire i felt on your original response then pink.

YES straight woman can be part of bdsm,,,I am STRAIGHT, i have never been w/ another woman in my life sexually and inviting one into play w/ Masteer doesnt have to include physicla intimacy....but you seemed to have missed that point.
i can top in public a woman .....in a scene w/ master and myself...no sex, not touching ,just pure mental and whipping, restraining under masters direction....


perhaps you meant *others* in general and not me.....

(as to the rest, no hit n run pink...words still stand on past threads,)

so lets not hijack/and loose this thread, as it can be quite valuable lets just go back to that peaceful place


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ORIGINAL: candystripper

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lol, not sure where coerced came from, but lol, wiitwd...

i am not bi---one can have fmf, without actually physical hands on touching/sex with...if i bring her in, i control.....(again limits to the mind......of others) i didnt say i let her fuck me or eat me or do anything to master... toys whips...whole big ball game,gags...mental play.................

as i said Master has given me monogomay, if i chose to bring someone into the mix or not, who knows..just idle morning pre java thoughts,
certainly didnt mean to offend...one needs not touch another beyond toys or whips candy, neither him not i....public play etc,,,,,,,,, it is not breaking monogamy in my book....your book reads different.

and what does time have to do w/ anything,lol.....

i'll stay outta your way pink,that seems to work best for us....you get way to ....cant think of a verb right now.....way too much of a touchy subject for you, and i dont care for flames on my opinions( i do remeber how you can be to me,lol)

fyreredsub


i have no idea what you mean; i have never flamed you. i simply said that asking whether a straight woman belongs in BDSM seemed to me a bit bigoted.

This is "hit and run" insults and innuendo; but i cannot change you, fyreredsub. Despite everything i wish you the best.

candystripper




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RE: What is Monogamy? - 12/24/2005 5:54:40 AM   
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High Monogamy??!! This type of term Disgust me.... it's no better that the references,Those universal claims that Slave is better than Sub... Bi is better than straight.... that Poly is better than Monogamy, Men are better than women. Fact is we have our individual perferences that are best for us as an individual... But when we use terms and label that imply valuations better and beyond those of others...... These type of self-serving one-up-man-ships terminologies reflect an intense defensiveness and even prejudical view upon others.

I know a few people that will not be involving themself in this discussion, a thread that is fundamental flawed before it even begins.

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RE: What is Monogamy? - 12/24/2005 6:00:49 AM   
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the caffeine level is up to quota now, seems i bought into it,Ty KOM, for pointing out the obvious

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High Monogamy??!! This type of term Disgust me.... it's no better that the references,Those universal claims that Slave is better than Sub... Bi is better than straight.... that Poly is better than Monogamy, Men are better than women. Fact is we have our individual perferences that are best for us as an individual... But when we use terms and label that imply valuations better and beyond those of others...... These type of self-serving one-up-man-ships terminologies reflect an intense defensiveness and even prejudical view upon others.

I know a few people that will not be involving themself in this discussion, a thread that is fundamental flawed before it even begins.



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RE: What is Monogamy? - 12/24/2005 6:01:06 AM   
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Why is it necessary to claim your form of monogamy is superior: High Monogamy?

Everyone else is below you?

Why not something like "Strict" or "Restrictive" that doesn't include an inherent value judgement?

I have trouble believeing a lawyer didn't do this by accident.

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RE: What is Monogamy? - 12/24/2005 6:06:34 AM   
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Ouch!

Uhm...I prefer monogomy in my relationships...in fact...I require it.
I have been involved in one poly relationship....and we were monogomous within that relationship as well...(no one stepped outside of the relationship)
I think that you can be monogomous with one person and still def be a part of a d/s relationship...
Possibly we are all feeling a lil defensive?
I think there is room for all here (jmho)
I wish ya'll the best whatever it is you're searching for!
Have a wonderful day!

Christina

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RE: What is Monogamy? - 12/24/2005 6:12:24 AM   
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quote:

High Monogamy??!! This type of term Disgust me.... it's no better that the references,Those universal claims that Slave is better than Sub... Bi is better than straight.... that Poly is better than Monogamy, Men are better than women. Fact is we have our individual perferences that are best for us as an individual... But when we use terms and label that imply valuations better and beyond those of others...... These type of self-serving one-up-man-ships terminologies reflect an intense defensiveness and even prejudical view upon others.

I know a few people that will not be involving themself in this discussion, a thread that is fundamental flawed before it even begins.

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KoM, glad I saw this before I replied. Really, you said everything I was trying to say. I couldn't agree more that the premise is fundementally flawed.

However, as a student of language, I find that too often it is easy for the misguided to use certain terms to try to elevate themselves and look as if they know what they are talking about when they simply don't have the experience to back up their claims. It's easy to eat up bandwidth with big bold fonts and shocked responses, but when the rubber hits the road, no one's going to be able to intellectualize WIIWD; and if you think you can, you are putting yoruself at a serious disadvantage.

I think those who strive to intellectualize BDSM as a concept and call themselves participants are ruining things more than helping. Unfortunately, the sub vs. slave conversation is as universally nausiating as all of the other 'pecking order' conversations going on right now.

My experience (and when I say that I'm talking about primary experience, not what I think or what I heard someone say or conjecture of some kind) has been that those who are so hell bent on trying to present themselves as better than everyone else are really people who are insecure and don't have much experience. I stay away from them. There is a big differance in kink between asking questions in order to learn more, and doing so in an attempt to discount everyone else and get people to see only one point of view. Folks who continually judge others don't last very long has been my experience.

Honestly, what other people do in the name of monogomy or polygamy isn't really any of my business. What I do based on what my Dominant and I have negotiated as the parameters of our relationship is.

Lily

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RE: What is Monogamy? - 12/24/2005 6:24:43 AM   
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*to nobody in particular*

"if you think monogamy is a type of wood...you might be a redneck"

*joke and run*

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RE: What is Monogamy? - 12/24/2005 6:41:52 AM   
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Personally I side with Candystripper in the fact that I prefer monogamy. I want an exclusive relationship with one man where we grow in each other and therefore strengthen our relationship and knowledge of the other with each and every day and keep the distractions out of our lives by not dealing sexually with others.

I am not saying that is best for everyone...I simply prefer it for myself and would not want it any other way.

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RE: What is Monogamy? - 12/24/2005 7:02:36 AM   
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This is interesting. You claim that in another thread communication "broke down" (by that I can only assume you mean "Didn't go the way I wanted/expected" because I didn't see any communication breakdown myself) because people were using non-standardized definitions of monogamy. Then you go on to provide yet another non-standard definition of "high monogamy" which I can only assume is the one we should have been using in ther other thread, had you had your druthers. Don't you think it's rather counter productive to provide a non-standard definition when the cause, in your mind, was that no one was using a standard definition to begin with? I do.

Let's make things simple. According to www.m-w.com (Merrian Webster Online) monogamy is defined as such:

monogamy
One entry found for monogamy.
Main Entry: mo·nog·a·my
Pronunciation: -mE
Function: noun
Etymology: French monogamie, from Late Latin monogamia, from Greek, from monogamos monogamous, from mon- + gamos marriage, from gamein to marry
1 archaic : the practice of marrying only once during a lifetime
2 : the state or custom of being married to one person at a time
3 : the condition or practice of having a single mate during a period of time <monogamy is common among birds>


According to this the original definition of monogamy (one mate during a lifetime) is now archaic - gosh, I wonder why? What you're referring to is known as serial monogamy where one mate at a time is practiced, but several in succession is acceptable. Trying to elevate it to some fantastical romantic ideal by calling it "High Monogamy" is just silly when your initial argument was that things got muddled up because no one was using the same definition. If you want everyone to be on the same page then use simple, standardized definitions rather than excerpts from the candystripper lexicon. While you're free to define anything for yourself in any way you like if what you want is reasonable discourse you're best to stick to the simple, standardized definitions.

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RE: What is Monogamy? - 12/24/2005 7:04:36 AM   
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My point exactly

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RE: What is Monogamy? - 12/24/2005 7:35:33 AM   
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Hmm, Candy...it's way too early in the morning for such discussions :P

An opinion, and that is all this is...my own POV

I am monogamous. There is no question about that. I could NEVER share a man on an ongoing basis with another woman. I am just too possessive, and too emotional to do so. Does that mean that I am opposed to him having another on occassion. Absolutly not. And it does not contradict what I just said about me being monagamous. When I am with someone, I want only one thing. And that is to make him happy. If that means that he wants to bring another woman home for the night, then I am all for it, because his happiness is more important than a small amount of discomfort I may feel. It in no way means that he is cheating, or that he is looking to 'add' to our family. It just means that he has differnet sexual appetites, and I should go out of my way to appease those. Now you may say...what about YOUR happiness, is that not just as important? Of course it is. But his happiness fuels mine. I feed off his. The happier he is, the happier and more content that I am. If that makes me a fool, then by god, I embrace my foolishness.


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i'd think a relationship conducted in this manner would be strained if one party made an emotional investment in a third person/potential play partner


Not strained at all, if both main parties were confident in their role. My anniversary present to my husband was to ask a girl that he had known since high school, dated for several years, and had a relationship with...if she would like to do this with us. I had known her since I met my husband, she was a regular visitor to our house before and after this happened. To this day, she and I remain very good friends. There is a high emotional attachment between us, just as there was between her and my husband. Yet it caused no strain in our relationship. It helped me to understand him and their special relationship better, and it strengthened the relationship that I had with her. I learned ALOT from that one lone encounter with her...that my husband loved me to distraction, and that just because he admired others...his love for me would never diminish.

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RE: What is Monogamy? - 12/24/2005 7:41:50 AM   
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All this talk of Monogamy is basing it purely off of sexual basis. Can someone not cheat in their heart or mind? Is that to be considered being unfaithful as well? How about emotional attachments? Time given? If you are going to put these stringent standards on absolute faithfulness then I would come to believe that even a glance at an attractive person of either sex to you would be crossing the bounds. You see the problem is that you start delving into this confusing thing we call love versus lust.

Love, despite what some people try to force others to believe is not of a limited supply, it is boundless and endless. Ask anyone who has lost a loved one and was able to love again, did that mean they did not love the prior with all their heart because they are able to love another? How could the heart hold so much love as to be given fully and absolutely to more than one person? That makes no sense. And yet it is nonetheless. Does a mother who has more than one child suddenly have to split the ammount of love they have for both children between them and her husband? So thus love is limited? Or is she able to still somehow manage to love all her children and her husband with the same entirity of her heart?

Does that make her unfaithful to her husband that she loves her children? I would say absolutely not. So likewise how can something such as monogamy hold the same basis in someone's mind? Why is it that someone is not able to love two or more people and love them completly? Now mind you many use the guise of love or attention under a poly life a take it and run with it in a very selfish way, but in my mind if you are genuine in action and deed you can be Monogamous and Poly at the same time, because in the heart and mind you love each one totally and completly.

Also think of a business or a machine, there are many parts that must be played and often it is very hard for one person to play all those parts. In fact the overall stress on the practice is immense for someone to be able to fulfill every need a person has in totale can be a bit overwhelming when dealing with the more desirous of us.

You see, I consider myself monogamous but I do keep many others in my heart who I care for and nurture, and under your rule book that would make me out to be a cheater or least blatantly poly, something in that mindset of which I just cannot understand.

The heart is not an oil refinery, it does not deal with things in limited supply, it should be given freely and openly because it is boundless and unending and to be honest what you are stating comes off more as selfishness than anything else, like a jealous husband who complains when his wife must step away to feed the children.

If you are being loved and loved completly why does it matter so absolutely much to you where else that mans love may be directed so long as it is not taking anything from you?



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