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Female Supremacy: A Manifesto - 12/15/2008 12:40:46 AM   
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Female Supremacy:  A Manifesto

    It is rare that I feel moved to state a solid, intractable opinion on anything worth having an opinion about.  I'm apolitical to the extreme, willfully ignorant to the better class of world events, and could care less about whatever topic du jour happens to be setting the media aflame.  If you have read my prior journal entries, you'll note that such opinions I do happen to express are light-hearted rants on subjects that may be deemed, at best, as irrelevant.  This holds true offline as well, amongst those diverse and sainted folk tolerant enough to amuse themselves with the questionable virtues of my company.

    So it's fair to say that I've not set a proper groundwork for expressing a serious opinion, either amongst those I know in person or through association here.  You'll therefore forgive me, I hope, if my attempt to do so now is flawed by too little in the way of readability, and too much in the way of inflammability.  I can only offer tentative apologies (for the form of expression, but not, of course, for the sentiments embodied therein), and hope you may see your way clear to offering such criticism as you deem fit.

    That said, allow me a brief sentence or two on the title of this essay.  I chose the term "manifesto" simply because that by definiton, it means "a public statement of opinion", among other things.  It is more aggressive of a term than I'd normally use in writing, but that may, I hope, be forgiven by the fact that compared to past efforts, this is more aggressive of a statement than I'm wont to make.  That asserted, I shall move on to the subject of this manifesto.

    We are, collectively, a diverse crowd.  Our tastes, desires, experiences, and so on may safely be said to encompass the gamut of the human experience.  From the faintest raspberry-tinged vanilla exploit, to the most lascivious of decadent pursuits, we as a community of the kinky have by tradition been more open-minded than other, larger groups.  We know what it is to have tastes that diverge from the mainstream, the socially acceptable, and in some cases, the strictly legal.  All this fosters in us (or should, I feel) a tolerance for things which may seem bizarre, silly, and outlandish to those who don't...well, get it.

    That said, I have to confess to a feeling of amused disbelief about some practices that fall under the purview of BDSM.  In this particular case, I refer to the structure of beliefs and views that surround and add up to the myth of inherent female supremacy.

    Now, it may seem odd to some reading this that I, a self-professed male submissive and seemingly natural proponent of the topic, would denounce it, and publically at that.  Surely harboring such feelings in such a position is in and of itself an act of betrayal, and I'd best shut right the hell up, smile prettily, and get on with the worshipping of the fairer sex.  Isn't there some dusting I could be doing, or something else constructive, rather than wasting time spouting off at the fingertips?

    Well, yes, there certainly is.  But if you've read this far, then odds are you'll continue on to the end, out of agreement with the views expressed, curiosity as to the reasoning behind them, or simple annoyance or anger at their base nature and contrariness.  Regardless of your motive for continuing to read, it justifies my continuing to write, so I'll accord this as a worthwhile use of my unsurprisingly vast amount of free time.

    To state the case baldly, female supremacy as a concept just doesn't work

    Allow me to elaborate on that by offering a definition of female supremacy, as it will be the basis of my rebuttal of the whole system.  In essence, the foundation of this system is that women are inherently superior to men.  That much is made obvious by the name.  Women are, by dint of being women, the natural leaders, and that men are thus the natural followers.  Under this view, every woman is a potential Dominatrix and has but to step up, toss off the shackles of male oppression and millenia of pro-male psychological conditioning, and claim her natural place in the order of things.  Conversely men, as the inferiors, are by their very nature meant to serve, as they have been proven through the ages to be less than wise in their (mis)management of our race, and have only maintained power for so long through the systematic oppression of their feminine counterparts.  Indeed, men are happier without the reins in their hands, are more productive when led by women, and will just continue to get up to no end of mischief if allowed to continue unmanaged by the women with their best interests at heart.

    Do you see the glaring and blatant flaws here?  If you don't, I'll allow you a minute to re-read that last paragraph, and another to reflect on it.

    Setting aside the strongest and most obvious point contrary to the above definition for later, allow me to first state that entrenched all throughout that definition is a credo and belief system that was last espoused by proponents of slavery throughout history.  I'm not speaking of the a-wink-and-a-nod style of slavery that some enjoy within the bounds of our chosen lifestyle.  I'm referring to the systematic subjugation of one group by another, and the practice of one person owning another in a very real, legal, incontrovertible sense.

    (Some of you may take offense to me stating that the so-called slavery found within the lifestyle is any less binding than the classical definition and practice of that institution.  That's a separate rant, and one I'll be happy to make to you at a later time through here, or at your leisure through e-mail, etc.  Suffice it to say that no matter what you may consider yourself to be, you are not a slave, for numerous and diverse reasons that should be self-evident.)

    If you'll recall your history lessons, slavery was extremely prevalent up to the time of the industrial revolution.  It existed (and exists) beyond then, of course, but we'll use that period as the easiest common reference, and the last period in which slavery was an accepted practice on a global scale.  Africa was a leading source of (though by no means a sole contributor to) slave labor, and the view was held by those in power at the time (vis. the English, French, Spanish, etc) that not only was slavery the natural state of the inferior (to their way of thinking) African people, but that they were indeed happier and more productive as slaves and property, that to be put in such a state was an improvement on the Africans' lot in life.  As time and trial have shown, this...there can be no stronger term for it than "evilly wrong-headed"...view was shown to be false.  And yet, it seems some have forgotten that, as evinced by the given definition of female supremacy. 

    To assume that any group is inherently meant to act as servitors is an abject fallacy, and a fundamentally loathsome idea.  While some may individually chose to serve of their own free will, to assume service based on any arbitrary standard of gender, color, race, or other ludicrous reason, is inherently wrong.  Following that, to assume dominance based on the above mentioned criteria is also plainly absurd, for the same reasons.

    To be fair, everything just stated above is of course belief backed by personal reflection, without the experience of classical slavery form either side of the lash.  As such, it has what to me feels like the makings of a universal truth, but one that has not been personally tested as I've never been in a situation to actually be a slave, or slave-owner.  If the comparison between classical slavery views and the views inherent in female supremacy aren't to your taste, feel free to ignore everything mentioned in that part.  The point that I find to be relevant to me, and all the moreso because of actual experience in the area, follows.

    Female supremacy, by very definition, is an abject refutation of and challenge to every other pairing within the context of domination and submission besides the FemDom-submissive male connection.  Since I know quite a few happy, successful pairings and groupings of male dominants with female subs, male dominants with male subs, female dominants with female subs, and the broad spectrum of switches, alt-gender-identities, and so on, I'm forced to point out that the entire concept of inherent female supremacy is rendered null and void.  Indeed, I have submissive and switchy sisters alike who would happily agree, and even more happily offer to insert a (well-manicured) nail into the eye sockets of anyone who would even hint at the suggestion that they are misguided, unfulfilled, or wrong for not taking the lead role.

    So to those adherents of female supremacy out there, I ask:  How do you justify your beliefs in the face of overwhelming evidence (not that which I spoke of, or not soley that) to the contrary?  Do you truly believe in it?  Can you honestly set store by such a view, when attending nearly any gathering of mixed BDSM folk provides a flat denial of it?  These questions are aimed at any and all who claim to follow this path, be they dominant, submissive, or any identifier not covered.  I honestly would like to know how you reconcile such a belief against the actual state of things.  Please, do enlighten me, at length if necessary.  I'll look forward to it.





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RE: Female Supremacy: A Manifesto - 12/15/2008 1:37:42 AM   
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Hmm...

it's really an argument of semantics, isn't it?

I would agree that YOUR definition of female supremacy is a fallacy and one that makes little sense.

But would would also point out that it is not the same thing, necessarily, that a majority of people think of when the words 'female supremacy' are uttered.

The first thing I think of is "better than other sexes" when I hear/read it... and under this I fully agree with it.

According to *my* ideals, and *my* fundamental focus on what is important, females are by far more supreme than *any* other sex (and I do mean sex).

This may sound strange from a (gay) male submissive looking for a (gay) male dominant, but it is what I believe.

Now that doesn't necessarily mean (and here is where our definitions wildly diverge) that *ALL* females are naturally dominant/femdoms/whatever or that they all deserve to be worshiped or submitted to. It just means that, on a purely philosophical level, the female is superior to the other sexes (such as males or hermaphrodites or any that I may be missing).

EDIT: Say what you mean and mean what you say... sheesh. *hits self*


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RE: Female Supremacy: A Manifesto - 12/15/2008 2:56:03 AM   
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As long as a woman remains sexually attractive, has breasts and a pussy, she will rule her kingdom!

Women's Liberation Front make me laugh when they talk about the lap dancing brigade letting our side down. Those women are Goddesses and so is any woman that can rule a man by his cock.

Whilst not all women wish to be a Goddess, I would of thought all women wish to be desired, at least by a partner, just as all men be it submissive, dominant, switch or just plain old vanilla will wish to be desired too. The difference is, at least to begin with, men have to work much harder at it............... shame that

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RE: Female Supremacy: A Manifesto - 12/15/2008 3:01:32 AM   
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Bigotry of any kind is offensive. Whether that is women believing they are all better than all men or vice versa. I know plenty of smart women, unfortunately I know plenty of stupid ones too.And the same for men.

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RE: Female Supremacy: A Manifesto - 12/15/2008 3:12:14 AM   
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Neither gender is supreme, we are just people trying to survive on this rock called Earth. People who claim that one gender is superior to the other are only talking out of their asses as both genders each contribute something that is vital that the other side does not. When I hear people say that males are superior or females are superior I just laugh and shake my head, as far as I am concerned they are pretty clueless.

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RE: Female Supremacy: A Manifesto - 12/15/2008 3:56:28 AM   
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My humble opinion.


The notion of inherent supremacy being tied to gender, is ludicrous, but a rather quaint folly. I am a little confused as to why you chose to highlight female supremacy. There are plenty of men who believe in male supremacy just as vehemently.


That being said, I believe gender supremacy can survive within an individual dynamic, for those that consent to it, and understand that when applied to the masses, it lacks any logical grounding and is highly flawed. Each to their own, if it is what rocks peoples worlds, let 'em enjoy it. It isn't harming me or my beliefs.


That said, I am amused by people who believe that someone is supreme because they are being lusted after; the 'woman has pussy, woman is goddess', to me, is a rather superficial form of 'control', that I reject as a sole entity (though it is fun as part of a whole D/s dynamic). If the only way I was given control of my man is because his cock gets hard for me, he would have been relegated to the cold backlands of wankersville a long time ago.

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RE: Female Supremacy: A Manifesto - 12/15/2008 4:35:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: allthatjaz

As long as a woman remains sexually attractive, has breasts and a pussy, she will rule her kingdom!

Women's Liberation Front make me laugh when they talk about the lap dancing brigade letting our side down. Those women are Goddesses and so is any woman that can rule a man by his cock.

Whilst not all women wish to be a Goddess, I would of thought all women wish to be desired, at least by a partner, just as all men be it submissive, dominant, switch or just plain old vanilla will wish to be desired too. The difference is, at least to begin with, men have to work much harder at it............... shame that



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RE: Female Supremacy: A Manifesto - 12/15/2008 4:50:39 AM   
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I'm always amused when people feel the need to take their journal entries and post them in the forums as if to reach a wider audience.
 
In my opinion...and mine alone...neither gender is supreme. We each bring unique qualities to the table of life...equal but different.
 
Now, as to the statement that as long as a woman remains sexually attractive, has breasts and pussy, that she will rule her kingdom.....I hope you never suffer from breast cancer or any other such life/physically altering illness and the the loss that can follow.  Placing such value in something as fleeting as physical appearance is asking for Mother Nature, cruel mistress that she can be, to humble such a person.
 
Of course, this is just one woman's opinion.

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RE: Female Supremacy: A Manifesto - 12/15/2008 5:27:17 AM   
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I'm currently working flat out on the website for my sLGBT focus group here in West London and part of our campaign is '2009 - The Year of Humanity'.

Freedom, like life and love recognizes a person for what they are - human, and like life and love it doesn't differentiate between specific aspects or characteristics other than they are human.

There is good and evil in this world. There really is. But just like love and hatred the choice always remains with the individual over whether they choose to love or choose to hate. If we understand that fear is only a lack of knowledge and understanding and that we have languages and minds with which to communicate and learn, then such things as bigotry, prejudice and hatred are as much a conscious choice as acceptance, understanding and love. The conscious choice comes in the fact that we all have what is known as free will.

However there are people who are not free, and some of these people are among you today, they pass you in the street, they may sit next to you on public transport, you may even work with them, they may live in your street and in the same building as you, they may even be your friends and family.

They are afraid, because they are not free, they feel they cannot be themselves, they are subjected to ridicule and scorn, they are despised, hated, excluded, shut out, persecuted, and attacked verbally and sometimes physically simply for being who they are. Many fear this and are afraid, they hide, avoid people, tell lies and have to keep secrets, simply because they are different. Different to what you expect them to be.

The destination is in sight. Not judging someone in terms of their skin colour is but a small step forward, but this is not a march but a short walk, all it takes is two more steps, one not to judge someone in terms of their gender and the next is not to judge someone in terms of their sexual orientation.

There are many among us who have already completed that small journey and many more are taking the steps. We are just waiting for the rest of humanity to join us, and all I can ask is for those who are waiting to join with me and extend a helping hand to those who are having difficulties making those steps.


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RE: Female Supremacy: A Manifesto - 12/15/2008 5:52:18 AM   
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I don't really have an opinion one way or another about the subject, but I have to say I certainly enjoyed reading the OP....  nicely written!

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RE: Female Supremacy: A Manifesto - 12/15/2008 6:25:30 AM   
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Strippers as goddesses? Huh. I guess that to me perpetuating the myth *or reality I suppose in some cases, that women are commodoties to be purchased like ground beef, a few dollars for some pussy, they are not goddesses. Not to this feminist anyway. Women are not superior, men are not superior, each gender has superior examples as well as a lot of idiots. Why continue to promote the outdated war of the sexes? 

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ORIGINAL: allthatjaz

As long as a woman remains sexually attractive, has breasts and a pussy, she will rule her kingdom!

Women's Liberation Front make me laugh when they talk about the lap dancing brigade letting our side down. Those women are Goddesses and so is any woman that can rule a man by his cock.

Whilst not all women wish to be a Goddess, I would of thought all women wish to be desired, at least by a partner, just as all men be it submissive, dominant, switch or just plain old vanilla will wish to be desired too. The difference is, at least to begin with, men have to work much harder at it............... shame that



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RE: Female Supremacy: A Manifesto - 12/15/2008 6:44:28 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

I believe any man so weak as to be controlled by his cock, deserves it.



quote:

ORIGINAL: allthatjaz

As long as a woman remains sexually attractive, has breasts and a pussy, she will rule her kingdom!

Women's Liberation Front make me laugh when they talk about the lap dancing brigade letting our side down. Those women are Goddesses and so is any woman that can rule a man by his cock.

Whilst not all women wish to be a Goddess, I would of thought all women wish to be desired, at least by a partner, just as all men be it submissive, dominant, switch or just plain old vanilla will wish to be desired too. The difference is, at least to begin with, men have to work much harder at it............... shame that




Amen... absolutely!!!
 
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RE: Female Supremacy: A Manifesto - 12/15/2008 7:09:53 AM   
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Jewel beat me to it.

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RE: Female Supremacy: A Manifesto - 12/15/2008 7:19:54 AM   
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I agree that "Female Supremacy" is B.S.  I also agree that the concept of "Male Supremacy" is B. S., though I disagree with another's statement on here that there are just as many male proponents of that theory;  there may be but you certainly don't see it proclaimed at anywhere near the level in profiles here that you see "Female Supremacy proclaimed...by both the femdominants and many submissives".  Maybe in the real world but I have to tell you, I live in a pretty conservative area and I've heard the idea expressed rarely.

In any romantic relationship/D-s dynamic I enter into, I will be the dominant partner and hence, the leader.  That does not make me superior to the submissive, it places us on a different sphere in relationship to the orbit around each other within our dynamic.  One leader, one follower doesn't equate to superior-inferior.

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RE: Female Supremacy: A Manifesto - 12/15/2008 7:53:48 AM   
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I have one observation, which I make with respect and without judgment.

I've been approached more than once by dommes asking to sub for me. Their public persona is domme, but privately these few at least like one-on-one with a dom male. We've even spoke of hunting sub-Fs together.

Personally, I think that's wonderful.

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RE: Female Supremacy: A Manifesto - 12/15/2008 7:58:38 AM   
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RE: Female Supremacy: A Manifesto - 12/15/2008 7:59:42 AM   
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I would have to have a pot of coffee to to get through your post.  Sorry 

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RE: Female Supremacy: A Manifesto - 12/15/2008 8:04:16 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyLou


My humble opinion.


The notion of inherent supremacy being tied to gender, is ludicrous, but a rather quaint folly. I am a little confused as to why you chose to highlight female supremacy. There are plenty of men who believe in male supremacy just as vehemently.


That being said, I believe gender supremacy can survive within an individual dynamic, for those that consent to it, and understand that when applied to the masses, it lacks any logical grounding and is highly flawed. Each to their own, if it is what rocks peoples worlds, let 'em enjoy it. It isn't harming me or my beliefs.


That said, I am amused by people who believe that someone is supreme because they are being lusted after; the 'woman has pussy, woman is goddess', to me, is a rather superficial form of 'control', that I reject as a sole entity (though it is fun as part of a whole D/s dynamic). If the only way I was given control of my man is because his cock gets hard for me, he would have been relegated to the cold backlands of wankersville a long time ago.


totally agreed. ESP. with the last paragraph. i'm the s in my relationship, but i think any sort of "power" granted on the basis of organs and the use of them alone is shallow, to say the least.
i dont believe strippers or porn stars or anything like that are "goddesses" any more than any other woman is. they are doing whatever it is they want to do and that's really all that matters. being gnarly by virtue of being a chick and having a "magical hole" is just as silly as declaring yourself gnarly because you have a thingie that sticks up on its own. =p

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RE: Female Supremacy: A Manifesto - 12/15/2008 8:53:47 AM   
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My opinion on supremacy... whether female, male, personal, economic, national, etc. all boils down to the same thing... its something achieved through actions, not words or rhetoric.

To anyone who claims to be superior in any regard I have but one simple challenge.... prove it.  If they can, so be it.  There are individuals in this world who are superior to others, whether that be in intelligence, strength, wealth, talent, etc.; there are those who are better dominants and those who are worse... those who have a talent for ruling and those with a talent for serving.  If not... another one bites the dust.  As Kipling put it, "This is the law of the jungle, and its as true as the sky, that the wolf that keeps it may prosper, but the wolf who breaks it must die."

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RE: Female Supremacy: A Manifesto - 12/15/2008 9:00:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Aynne88


Strippers as goddesses? Huh. I guess that to me perpetuating the myth *or reality I suppose in some cases, that women are commodoties to be purchased like ground beef, a few dollars for some pussy, they are not goddesses. Not to this feminist anyway. Women are not superior, men are not superior, each gender has superior examples as well as a lot of idiots. Why continue to promote the outdated war of the sexes? 



Not all strippers/lap dancers/pro Mistress are hookers. That is a very presumptuous statement. They may be in the sex game but thats not to say they are actually having sex for a few dollars. Most, except for those with pimps and in the slave trade are making seriously big money and that could well be without penetration.

Lets take a man on a low income who is trying to make ends meet before his next pay packet. Every lap dancer will find a man to dance for even if he is living on the bread line, every stripper will find herself an audience even when we are living in the eye of the credit crunch and every Pro Mistress will find herself a sub even though he can probably not afford her, so who is gaining here?

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