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RE: What is your "plan" ? ~ ~ ! - 12/18/2008 1:32:19 PM   
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I own a city lot. I plan to expand the vegetables this year.  I will try potatos.  Any other crop I would want to try?

We are in a trend to do things like the old OLD timers did.  What hints do you have?


Hire a private 24/7 police force to keep people from stealing your vegetables.

Much cheaper.

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RE: What is your "plan" ? ~ ~ ! - 12/18/2008 1:47:23 PM   
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I own a city lot. I plan to expand the vegetables this year.  I will try potatos.  Any other crop I would want to try?

We are in a trend to do things like the old OLD timers did.  What hints do you have?


Hire a private 24/7 police force to keep people from stealing your vegetables.

Much cheaper.


20,000  US troops will be here.  problem solved.

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RE: What is your "plan" ? ~ ~ ! - 12/18/2008 1:48:42 PM   
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Just like it solved Iraq and Afghanistan.

Good to know.

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RE: What is your "plan" ? ~ ~ ! - 12/18/2008 2:00:15 PM   
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We have changed in the way we shop, where we eat, etc.  It is going to get lots worse for a long time before it gets better.  Everyone better be thinking about the future now because next month maybe to late.

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RE: What is your "plan" ? ~ ~ ! - 12/18/2008 2:25:04 PM   
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I don't like hectares, because i don't know how to pronounce the word.


"Hekterz."
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RE: What is your "plan" ? ~ ~ ! - 12/18/2008 2:56:45 PM   
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We have changed in the way we shop, where we eat, etc.  It is going to get lots worse for a long time before it gets better.  Everyone better be thinking about the future now because next month maybe to late.


Next month?

What happened to planning ahead with a minimum of a six month liquid reserve?

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RE: What is your "plan" ? ~ ~ ! - 12/18/2008 3:26:51 PM   
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We've been cutting bills back for quite some time. No cells, DSL, cable or garbage bills. The average college student pays $300 a month on their cellphone. I know people who complain constantly about being broke yet pay $100 a month for their tv and speedy internet.

We have a woodstove and cut our own wood.

Right now I have turnips and leaf lettuce in the garden. I also have rabbits and chickens. This summer I grew tomatoes, peppers and sweet potatoes on the front porch in pots.

Think smart, we'll all get through this, even if we need alittle help from our neighbors.

Sage.

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RE: What is your "plan" ? ~ ~ ! - 12/18/2008 5:54:36 PM   
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OK, this is a serious question---

How are you growing turnips and leaf lettuce in the garden this time of year?

I'm trying to grow them indoors and under light, along with spinach, broccoli, beans, peas and a few others, without success.

(they sprout, grow, but don't live long enough to produce)

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RE: What is your "plan" ? ~ ~ ! - 12/18/2008 7:10:22 PM   
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Buy a new Lincoln MKS for $44k instead of a Cadillac STS for $56k, savings, $12k!
Wow! "Budgeting" can be fun!

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RE: What is your "plan" ? ~ ~ ! - 12/18/2008 9:04:28 PM   
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The problem for me is that it comes on 18 hectares of land. I don't like hectares, because i don't know how to pronounce the word. I'd want my castle to be located on acres of land, so I would never be interested in buying this one.
THAT'S GREAT!

I can't either, but it's easier in Italian; "La proprietà ha diciotto ettari di terra." Beautiful language isn't it? Even the aforementioned 'piss bucket' sounds better; "benna dell'orina". The job is called; "Ragazza dell'orina" or "Ragazzo dell'orina" - gendar specific.


God, that's a beautiful language, isn't it? Even in written form, it's like listening to music. I'll be interested in knowing how the Rosetta Stone software works for you. I'm planning to start using it to learn German next month, and if it goes well, the next language i want to learn is Italian. Not for any practical reason; I just want to learn to speak the languages. Good luck over there; sounds like you guys are building a very nice life for yourselves.


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RE: What is your "plan" ? ~ ~ ! - 12/18/2008 9:16:33 PM   
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On the subject of the original post, I've been mulling something over the last few days. I wouldn't go so far as to call it a plan yet, but I'm going to be giving it some thought in the coming weeks. Today's stock market hiccup notwithstanding, I expect stocks to be on a bullish trend for several weeks, maybe as long as a couple of months. By March, I expect the market to drop again, perhaps quite a bit. I'm thinking I may ride this rally for a couple more months, cash out most of my equities in February, and use it to buy into real estate. I really trust the stock market less and less with each passing week, but there are going to be some excellent values in real estate as the next round of defaults start rolling in.




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RE: What is your "plan" ? ~ ~ ! - 12/18/2008 9:27:31 PM   
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I don't like hectares, because i don't know how to pronounce the word.


"Hekterz."
Oh, kitten kitten kitten...


Oui  ?

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RE: What is your "plan" ? ~ ~ ! - 12/18/2008 9:47:30 PM   
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Plenty of room, and the thought of beth being the "Countess of Carbonana"; blows my mind! We're already planning some great parties.


Now every time I hear Olive Garden pimping their Chicken Carbonara, I'm going to think of you grabbing beth's breasts. So boneless and tender...

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You know, regarding good old Bernie, now living in the strict prison-like confines of his $7Million NYC condo; I don't know why he's in trouble. He was only following the US Government Social Security program business plan.

Talk about a 'plan'. Screw people for 25 years and just when you're ready to die, have your sons 'turn you in' so they can keep anything they've made from the fraud. Using the 'greed is good' marketing plan, he got fools who didn't get any detailed investment reports, couldn't verify assets, and convinced them to live up to the "don't tell anybody" policy. All so they could claim to be a part of his 'exclusive' investment group.


It's funny- no matter how often you see example of fools being parted from their money, it seems like there are always more fools.

But if they're so stupid and I'm so smart, how did they get all the money to begin with?!?


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RE: What is your "plan" ? ~ ~ ! - 12/18/2008 9:49:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bluepanda

On the subject of the original post, I've been mulling something over the last few days. I wouldn't go so far as to call it a plan yet, but I'm going to be giving it some thought in the coming weeks. Today's stock market hiccup notwithstanding, I expect stocks to be on a bullish trend for several weeks, maybe as long as a couple of months. By March, I expect the market to drop again, perhaps quite a bit. I'm thinking I may ride this rally for a couple more months, cash out most of my equities in February, and use it to buy into real estate. I really trust the stock market less and less with each passing week, but there are going to be some excellent values in real estate as the next round of defaults start rolling in.





I thought about that "real estate", but I'm no expert on it. However, if sales tax revenues fall, if kick backs from state and federal programs fall, essentially, if nearly all tax revenue sources fall, wouldn't the one place they'd turn to be raising property taxes? They already raise them all the time, and try to overvalue property.

So, I'm simply not sure if property as in land is the best option as they can tax the hell out of it, and probably would if shit hit the fan hard. Where else are they going to get more money from?

Anyway, my vote goes to buying things that offset everyday costs, or lower them, or buying stuff in advance one will eventually consume anyway.

Thus, why not buy a years worth of stuff that you will need no matter what, if you got extra money. If the economy recovers, you are out of nothing, if it tanks and you find yourself in a diminished situation, at least you don't have to spend money on that stuff.

Why not work on lowering your heating cooling and lighting costs, if nothing happens oh well, you saved money, even though you didn't need to save it. If shit hits the fan, well, a lot of people will be scraping and 50.00 off a power bill might keep the lights on.

Anyway, that's how I look at all this,

1. Stock up, on what you'd consume anyway.
2. Become more efficient.
3. Get some form of protection, you can always sell the gun if shit recovers, so who cares.
4. After 1 and 2, and 3 try to become more independent. Grow food if possible(gardening is fun potentially), if possible try switching to locally fueled heating system. If you got the cash, why not buy some solar panels.

Anyway, after that then I'd start thinking of real estate, stocks, etc....

The thing people aren't getting I think is that money if the dire predictions come to pass, and there is more than a small chance they could, IMO, is that whether you have a million or a 100 dollars you are broke. So, buying things that have real worth, is the way to go. Before gold silver or land(unless its going to be producing something, with universal value), the things that have value no matter what scenario, and scale with inflation, are food, and energy.

Now, right now we aren't going into an inflationary spiral, however that is just because the dollar has held up well, if it stops holding up, which many predict will happen, then these "money bombs" we are dropping, will lead to significant inflation, and the way it looks is plenty more "money bombs" are going to be required before the end is near. How much more can the system endure? We are already at 0.25 percent interest. LOL. The fed has completely tapped that power. Now, the only power left is the direct "money bomb".  Yeah, yeah, the fed and treasury are to different things, whatever, they are the same thing effectively, they are writing the book together, and agree on strategy. Essentially one entity at this point. Bush vowed to save the financial sector, I don't recall him vowing to save you, and Obama has went along with Bush on everything so far. So, I'd expect the play book to be passed.

Better safe than sorry. I'd say.


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RE: What is your "plan" ? ~ ~ ! - 12/18/2008 9:55:48 PM   
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Buy a new Lincoln MKS for $44k instead of a Cadillac STS for $56k, savings, $12k!
Wow! "Budgeting" can be fun!


Yeah, but for $36k you could have had an '07 model Caddy CTS-V, and spent the rest on rear tires


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RE: What is your "plan" ? ~ ~ ! - 12/18/2008 10:10:08 PM   
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I'm going to stock up on tp. going to start dehydrating food and making jerky. Buy seeds, stockpile what I don't use. maybe, maybe find a nice quiet spot in the woods for a bail out spot, someplace to hole up and wait for the end. Or, I'll just stay frugal like I already am, and just stock pile new socks and underwear. Oh and TP. Maybe coffee too.


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RE: What is your "plan" ? ~ ~ ! - 12/18/2008 10:28:27 PM   
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I'm young...I don't have too much to worry about. I'm about to take out some student loans and pay them back when the obamessiah and big fat bernanke usher in a golden age of hyperinflation. the few ounces of gold I picked up four or so years ago have more than doubled in value, I picked up a little more a few months ago, and I'm trying to sell my old drumset to put a few more pamp suisse bars in my deposit box.

I'll be more than fine through the devaluation of our currency.

p.s. anyone want a 6 piece 9 ply canadian maple drumset (excellent condition).

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RE: What is your "plan" ? ~ ~ ! - 12/18/2008 10:29:35 PM   
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I'm going to stock up on tp. going to start dehydrating food and making jerky. Buy seeds, stockpile what I don't use. maybe, maybe find a nice quiet spot in the woods for a bail out spot, someplace to hole up and wait for the end. Or, I'll just stay frugal like I already am, and just stock pile new socks and underwear. Oh and TP. Maybe coffee too.



lol, this post made me laugh.
Find a spot in the woods and wait until the end?
lol
Buddy can you spare a job?

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RE: What is your "plan" ? ~ ~ ! - 12/18/2008 10:54:07 PM   
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I am up at 4:30 this morning.  I dont know why.  I guess my back is cold.   Silver at 11.40 and flying off the shelf of where I buy it!!!!   So, I been clicking away.   40% silver coins, the mark up over spot is cheaper the bullion rounds right now!  


try kitco.com. last time I checked they were dropping silver at 14$'s (they buy at around 5$'s less than that I believe). I don't know too much about silver, but I'm surprised the spot is that high. it dipped under 10 about a week ago.

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RE: What is your "plan" ? ~ ~ ! - 12/18/2008 11:03:14 PM   
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Agrees. WalMart is a dirty soulless corporate whore. Seriously. That place just sucks.  I won't shop there.



I'll never understand why people hate walmart.

do you not like a dirty soulless corporation that employs over 2 million individuals (many of whom would have a hard time finding employment/income without walmart)? do you not like a dirty soulless corporation that enables poor families to acquire products that heighten the quality of their lives in a way that is not possible without walmart?

and what corporations have souls?

I'll never understand you people.

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