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Need your help/under consideration - 12/17/2008 6:43:05 PM   
hopeful68


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Good evening to All:

I am posting this as 'task', I believe, for disgracing myself and hurting the Dominant that has me under consideration.  The question today is.. what would You consider proper punishment for me?  Here it goes.  Kinda long, sorry.

I am under consideration by One on this site.  He is Master Paul.  His ID on collarme is not that, but he will be seeing my post and all responses to it.  We have what can be called and is, a long distance relationship.  He does travel to my area about once a month, but has plans on making it more frequent, and each stay longer then they have been in the past. 

I have been collared once before to a Dom, but some of my friends openly questioned whether or not he was really Dominant.  Certainly he did not 'live' the lifestyle.  And the relationship ended when he became what I believe to be a combination of ill and he just wanted to move on.  He did not go about this the right way and in the process of the death of that relationship, I began to question, trust, honesty, communication, this lifestyle, the 'intentions' of all Dominants, and myself as a submissive.  Needless to say, I was hurt.

It took me many months to give him his collar back, everytime I would bring up the subject of giving it back, he would hem and haw, and say, lets see how things go in the next couple of weeks.  I finally said, no, Im done.  I grieved for several more months afterwards and then Master Paul contacted me on CM.  I was immediately taken by his picture, which showed an open smiling face and I decided that I would like to get to know this person better.  I responded back to him, and we had a conversation.  I am unsure of how much I disclosed of my past and vise-versa.  I liked him and we agreed that the next time he was here in Seattle, we would meet.  That first encounter took place in October and my most recent journal entry is about that meeting.  Our next meeting was a month later, almost to the day.  During that months time,  he had little contact with me, other then the occasional email and IM, we had never spoken on the phone.  When we spoke of his next visit he requested that I spend the night with him at his hotel, which I agreed to.  We played that night and it was also the first time I have been bound by anyone.  We talk easily whether it be out to dinner or during or after play. 

It was while we were talking about his next planned trip that I told him that I was still dating and playing occasionally with another, not a Dominant, but sexual in nature.  He was not happy about that, at least thats the way it seemed to me, and he expressed a desire to have me be 'His'.  I did not agree to that at first, for several reason, one that he is long distance, two that I had never even spoken with him on the phone (he did give me his number when we had our second encounter but I know my place and did not try to initiate contact), and three because of the pain/hurt that I had just come through.  I did desire to say yes however as I do like this man a great deal.

We decided to talk further about this on his next visit.  That visit got cancelled and I have yet to see him again in person.  We continued to talk about me being under consideration and I finally agreed and put that on my profile.  He seemed very pleased.  We have since talked several times on the phone but he is going through some health issues of his own, and I went for a week or more without word from him of any kind.  I began to doubt.. everything.  Second guessed myself, his intentions, my ability to have this type of relations, both the D/s and distance.  I changed my profile back to what it had read before and added a little blip that said.. "please be single" as I thought he must be lieing to me about that, I thought he just cant call me, not that he didnt want to, but couldnt because there was already someone at home.

He saw the profile today and questioned me about it.  I told him that I felt neglected and confused and needy and knew I was in trouble.  I immediately told him that I would change it back.  He said that no, not unless I could stand by it, that he wanted to be able to trust his submissive.  I said that he could trust me more then I was willing to admit, and I confessed that I was making him pay for the deeds done wrong to me by another and that I knew it was wrong.  I apologized, which he accepted, and he tasked me with this.  I am also going to post this under ask a submissive to hopefully get their opinions as well.  I did change my profile back immediately.

SO, question is.. what is a befitting punishment for me, for disgracing myself and hurting him, which he said I did.. I asked him straight out...

Thank you for your time, thank you for reading this, and thank you for any replies you see fit to give.

Respectfully,
c
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RE: Need your help/under consideration - 12/17/2008 6:48:11 PM   
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I think you should get to know him better and not rush into changing your profile, ownership, public humiliation, etc.  But hey, that's just me.

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RE: Need your help/under consideration - 12/17/2008 6:51:14 PM   
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Just a note: dont think posting same topic in two different sections is allowed, so you might wanna just leave it here, submissives will see it too.

Re the topic:

Im so sorry to say this but if email and a hotel room were the only avenues of contact for me Id be doubting too.

Punishment...umm...sure, we cant make ppl pay for our pasts...BUT...we also have to learn from our pasts....

Im not being very helpful..I think i'll just stop here.

< Message edited by slavejali -- 12/17/2008 6:56:17 PM >


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RE: Need your help/under consideration - 12/17/2008 6:54:51 PM   
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You were a bit off by making choices without doing a full discussion with him first.

He was off by trying to say he couldn't trust you because of it.

He obviously isn't ready or able to give you the relationship that will work for you.  It sounds best to let you both go find your bliss where it will work with others.

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RE: Need your help/under consideration - 12/17/2008 6:55:10 PM   
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thanks for the advice.

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RE: Need your help/under consideration - 12/17/2008 6:55:51 PM   
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Consideration means just that, you both are considering each other and getting to know each other. You need to decide for yourself at what speed this goes for you and talk to him about it.

Now does he want to punish you or do you want to punish yourself? If he wants to punish you that is between him and you. If you want to punish yourself is that not topping yourself from the bottom.

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RE: Need your help/under consideration - 12/17/2008 6:57:21 PM   
hopeful68


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Hey girls.. how do I get rid of that vanilla thing on my profile..??  jeeze.. !!

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RE: Need your help/under consideration - 12/17/2008 6:58:37 PM   
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Fast Reply

Ok just another thought, you look like a beautiful lady, just because you're submissive doesnt mean you have to allow people to walk all over you.

< Message edited by slavejali -- 12/17/2008 6:59:25 PM >


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RE: Need your help/under consideration - 12/17/2008 7:00:08 PM   
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the cone will go away after a certain number of posts (25, I think)

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RE: Need your help/under consideration - 12/17/2008 7:04:12 PM   
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Keep on posting, the vanilla cone will go away in time.  As for your "punishment", I would suggest running around outside barefoot, but this only applies to my neck of the woods right now as it is icy and cold.  Yuck.  It sounds like you are beating yourself up quite nicely on your own, without outside interference from your dom.  Perhaps in the future you could look before you leap, assumptions are the mother of all fuck-ups, and they make an ASS out of U and ME. 

I wish you luck in getting this figured out!

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RE: Need your help/under consideration - 12/17/2008 7:04:52 PM   
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You do know he's married, right? And that his wife would consider this cheating. Are you okay with that?

No phone number, hotel only, he contacts you not vice versa. Definitely married. And it is your place to demand honesty and integrity from a partner.

Beyond that, assuming you can blithely go beyond that, is the fact that until you agree to be his, you have every right to do what you want and have the profile that you want.

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RE: Need your help/under consideration - 12/17/2008 7:10:13 PM   
hopeful68


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I think everything you said right there sounds about right.. thanks..

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RE: Need your help/under consideration - 12/17/2008 7:11:36 PM   
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Let me see if I understand this all correctly.

The guy visits you from out of town but is always "busy" and tends not to contact you when he is home.  He wants you to be "his" but doesn't bother talking to you in a brand new relationship for a week or more at a time.  He is pissy you were sleeping with someone prior to meeting him.  He is now whining that after not hearing from him you took down the silly "under consideration" thing off your profile.

Here's my guess, he is now going to get pissed when some of us call him a (moderator approved insult)  and a complete (moderator approved insult) who is probably less dominant than my toaster.   He is going to whine that you "disgraced" him.  My suggestion is to buy him a mirror and gift wrap it for his Christmas present and perhaps that will help him figure out who actually disgraced him.

As for a fitting punishment, I think just being in the same room with the guy would be enough to get most decent women to safeword.

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RE: Need your help/under consideration - 12/17/2008 7:16:15 PM   
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hopeful, I understand that you've posted your story on here so that others will suggest appropriate punishments for your actions.  My problem with this, however, is that I don't see where you've really misstepped, except perhaps in changing your profile without telling him, but even that seems like an 'iffy' offense because you had no contact from this man for a week and were doubting him at the time.

My question is ... can this man meet the basic communication needs you have?  Does he feel the need/desire to speak with you as often as you wish to hear from him?  I'm also concerned about your line of "he did give me his number when we had our second encounter but I know my place and did not try to initiate contact)" - do you never initiate contact with him? Are you not permitted a certain amount of openness since this is a long-distance relationship? 

You told him flat-out that you were feeling needy, neglected and confused, and it doesn't sound like he addressed these emotional issues of yours, but simply took you to task for changing the profile.  And he wants a puninshment to reflect your disrespect to him.  I see a disconnect there. 



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RE: Need your help/under consideration - 12/17/2008 7:16:54 PM   
hopeful68


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I know.. that's what I was thinking.. that's what a submissive friend of mine said.  The phone numbers did come though, the hotel is because he has traveled  here and I have a roommate.. maybe I am impatient, maybe he is married/involved.. I just really want to believe he isnt.. and trust him.

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RE: Need your help/under consideration - 12/17/2008 7:23:44 PM   
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Hopeful..I regret to say, you have had basically two encounters with this person and some email chats. That does not a relationship make nor is it even a foundation for a collar at this stage.

Yes this is a very busy time of year for everyone, and trips get canceled, colds and illnesses happen but that is no excuse for someone to not stay in contact if they are serious. You say you know your place, even though he gave you a number to call. Right now in my estimation you have no place other than as an equal. That means you can call him. He can call you. It means that either of you can walk away, or BOTH of you can make an effort to build something together, but that means honesty on both sides. His included.

When one is searching for a Dominant in one's life, there are things that you look for. Not hjust that the kink or sex is good, but that they can be relied on, be there when you need advice, are stable and responsible. It isn't just about the punishments if you fail..but what they are risking as well and that is your trust. If they cannot prove themselves someone who is willing to be a constant in life even by phone or mail, how can you rely on them, how can they rely on you? They don't know you save as a serial one night stand.

My advice is to sit back and really evaluate what you want, what you know about him, and what you are seeking in a relationship. Don't worry about punishment for feeling that he had vanished out of your life and changing your profile without his consent. He has no collar on you, and VANISHED without considering what it would do to the budding relationship. Frankly, he has much to make up for in my Humble Opinion, not you. Before you can walk into someones collar, you have to KNOW that person and yourself as well.

Submissive does not mean doormat, nor does it mean sitting on a shelf until he remembers you and decides to dust you off and play.

poenkitten

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RE: Need your help/under consideration - 12/17/2008 7:24:09 PM   
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quote:

My suggestion is to buy him a mirror and gift wrap it for his Christmas present and perhaps that will help him figure out who actually disgraced him.


No, dont waste your money...draw him a map to the next public toilet and let him look in the mirror there...that's sufficient...

I met a dom in the past at his place and am now meeting my prospective Master at his place for 4 weeks. I have his landline and mobile number and could call there any time freely...I don't put up with permanent hotel crap and wasting my time with waiting when "Mr.-I-am-so-great" bothers to see me or to call. Move on and look for someone worthy  Good luck

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RE: Need your help/under consideration - 12/17/2008 7:25:08 PM   
hopeful68


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He has tried to reassure me on several occassions that things will be drastically changing after the first of the year.  I will give him the time, and I thank you for your open honest opinion..

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RE: Need your help/under consideration - 12/17/2008 7:28:27 PM   
hopeful68


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thank you poenkitten.. I really appreciate your calm words..

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RE: Need your help/under consideration - 12/17/2008 7:31:07 PM   
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hopeful, the best advice I can offer is always follow your gut instinct. If it's telling you something is not right about this Dominant, listen.

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