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RE: Al Franken takes lead in Minn. Senate Race...Go Al!! - 12/22/2008 8:19:58 PM   
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Umm yeahia....

He left to run.

For the Senate seat.

The one we`re discussing right now.

Sorry if I`m repeating the obvious.

Senator Franken......

Has a nice ring to it.

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RE: Al Franken takes lead in Minn. Senate Race...Go Al!! - 12/22/2008 8:20:05 PM   
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Oh no my favorite was when she called the 9/11 widows "harpies that enjoyed their widowhood" and then of course the cruel sick comments made to Elizabeth Edwards about the death of her son. Ann Coulter is a wretched evil bitch that deserves anything bad that befalls her. She is a pig.   


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Yup. Ann Coulter sure is funny... remember when she advocated laws against those of us into leather and handcuffs? Blaming us as part of the "moral decay" in America? (This was lumped in with one of her usual anti gay rants.) I believe she used the phrase "hunt them down and kill them?"

Yeah. Fucking Hailarious!


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RE: Al Franken takes lead in Minn. Senate Race...Go Al!! - 12/22/2008 8:22:50 PM   
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A letter to dear Ann.

Enjoy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM7MR5_v47w

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RE: Al Franken takes lead in Minn. Senate Race...Go Al!! - 12/22/2008 9:19:29 PM   
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Oh My God!!!! Owner that is the best. Henry Rollins is God. Thanks
I am so gonna foward that~~~~~


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RE: Al Franken takes lead in Minn. Senate Race...Go Al!! - 12/22/2008 9:21:54 PM   
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I will admit that I am biased against politicians. Help me with that bias and explain how a company that goes bankrupt is a success? How a company that takes interest free loans from a charity that is supposed to help kids and the elderly is ethical? Explain how a someone that "forgets" to pay taxes, and keep his employees covered with Workers Comp makes a good Senator? If this were a republican running for a senate seat, would you treat it the same?


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Half the market share with only a few years in business, of what took Rush over 20 years to get.

That`s a pretty good trajectory and performance.

Unless you`re biased.

Go Al go!



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RE: Al Franken takes lead in Minn. Senate Race...Go Al!! - 12/22/2008 9:35:19 PM   
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Well, Donold Trump also went bankrupt.



And returned to become a great success.

They had a bad deal and reorganized and are doing well now,selling soap(commercial time) and a progressive message.

They didn`t have the deep pockets of say a Rupert Murdock,who lost millions for years starting FoxNoise,before they even turned a profit.

Would that define a successful business,shoveling money by the millions into a hole,before netting even one dollar?

I guess it`s how one defines success.

Considering what they were up against and still are,AAR had done quite well.Spiritually and monetarily.Which is the best revenge.Senator Al Franken would be even sweeter.

I`m only indulging you with this b/c I know you`ll actually listen.AAR`s critics aren`t really listening or interested in the facts.

Go Al!

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RE: Al Franken takes lead in Minn. Senate Race...Go Al!! - 12/23/2008 4:18:23 AM   
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The former joke was the kind of thing we Minnesotans encourage - scares off the riff-raff. The latter isn't a MN joke. MN is known for having a relatively clean political system.

Well, compared to Chicago, sure.


Compared to just about anywhere. 

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But a "clean political system" is a contradiction in terms.


It should be an expectation. 

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RE: Al Franken takes lead in Minn. Senate Race...Go Al!! - 12/23/2008 5:55:29 AM   
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I suppose we can wait and see then. This would mean that it may have the potential to be successful, but you said it was successful. I can see Franken's numbers (ratings) going up because he is a comedian, but I didn't like the show because it was strictly a singe ideology, kind of like Rush's show. I prefer Glen Beck or a little bit of Boortz (though I call and give Neal a hard time often).

Now what about those things about Franken himself. The unpaid taxes and the no workers comp insurance? Does that not concern any of those that are cheering him on?


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Well, Donold Trump also went bankrupt.



And returned to become a great success.

They had a bad deal and reorganized and are doing well now,selling soap(commercial time) and a progressive message.

They didn`t have the deep pockets of say a Rupert Murdock,who lost millions for years starting FoxNoise,before they even turned a profit.

Would that define a successful business,shoveling money by the millions into a hole,before netting even one dollar?

I guess it`s how one defines success.

Considering what they were up against and still are,AAR had done quite well.Spiritually and monetarily.Which is the best revenge.Senator Al Franken would be even sweeter.

I`m only indulging you with this b/c I know you`ll actually listen.AAR`s critics aren`t really listening or interested in the facts.

Go Al!


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RE: Al Franken takes lead in Minn. Senate Race...Go Al!! - 12/23/2008 8:34:39 AM   
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AAR is making money and growing.

Fox Business ,in the tank.,low to no ratings.

Both still alive but can both be called successful?

PITW,a sports team`s scoring,elections,quarterly reports,stocks and productivity,a census,a budget, all share one thing.A need to tally and account on a day(s)certain so that there`s some sort of metrics to measure with.One can say forever"we`ll see".

But there are benchmarks for performance and AAR has met them.

If AAR went off the air,there would be something to crow about.But it`s growing and gaining audience shares.

There are thousands of listed companies who don`t perform as well as AAR,but aren`t politicized or attacked or looked at unfairly.They`re looked at like any other bus. and judged without a bias(mostly) to be good performing stocks.Maybe not stellar,but above  inflation and growing.That`s the key word for investors,~growing~.

You`re correct.We`ll see.But AAR`s critics have bad-mouthed them from the start ,fairly and un-fairly.They aren`t telling the truth now,either.

Al`s Senate win would cement AAR`s success,at least spiritually and morally.

We need a progressive anti big business voice in the Senate.There`s way to many corporate brown-nosers there.

Sen. Paul Wellstone was a hero of Al`s and a Senator Franken would be very much like him and fight for the middle class,like Wellstone did.

Go Al!

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RE: Al Franken takes lead in Minn. Senate Race...Go Al!! - 12/23/2008 9:12:40 AM   
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AAR is making money and growing.

Fox Business ,in the tank.,low to no ratings.

Both still alive but can both be called successful?


Have no clue about Fox Business, as it did not seem relevant to Franken.

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PITW,a sports team`s scoring,elections,quarterly reports,stocks and productivity,a census,a budget, all share one thing.A need to tally and account on a day(s)certain so that there`s some sort of metrics to measure with.One can say forever"we`ll see".

But there are benchmarks for performance and AAR has met them.


Not going to say "we'll see" forever. Will wait to see how well they continue to do coming out of bankruptcy. So what are the benchmarks for a syndicated show? Would it be total market share, or advertising dollars gained? What about the P & L? Seems the Income Statement and Balance Sheet would be how I would look at a companies measure of success.

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If AAR went off the air,there would be something to crow about.But it`s growing and gaining audience shares.


So what is their total market share?

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There are thousands of listed companies who don`t perform as well as AAR,but aren`t politicized or attacked or looked at unfairly.They`re looked at like any other bus. and judged without a bias(mostly) to be good performing stocks.Maybe not stellar,but above  inflation and growing.That`s the key word for investors,~growing~.


Uhhhh. You were the one that mentioned it, so I looked into it. The reason was I remember reading something about them in a business magazine, as well as reading something about the funny dealings with accepting loans from a charity.

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You`re correct.We`ll see.But AAR`s critics have bad-mouthed them from the start ,fairly and un-fairly.They aren`t telling the truth now,either.


Who is not telling the truth? Seems AAR was the one that filed for bankruptcy, AAR was the one that said they had 30 mil in starting capital when they actually only had 6 mil, AAR was the one that took loans from a charity that was established to help kids and the elderly. These are all facts, not opinions. You can verify them from multiple sources from the wiki article I linked to.

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Al`s Senate win would cement AAR`s success,at least spiritually and morally.


So morally what is your opinion of AAR getting no interest loans from a charity? Morally what is your opinion of making the company as if they had 30 mil to start with, when actually they had 6 mil? Morally what is your opinion of a company that does not have adequate Workers Comp insurance? Would you apply the same morals if it were a republican?

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We need a progressive anti big business voice in the Senate.There`s way to many corporate brown-nosers there.


Not sure about a liberal being needed (sorry the rebranding is not taking a hold with me), but you are correct there are many corporate and special interest brown nosers in government. Those brown nosers are both republican and democratic. Not sure who has more, but all of them need to be ousted. If Franken does that then great, but please do not make him out to be a savior when he has some not so shiny armor himself.

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Sen. Paul Wellstone was a hero of Al`s and a Senator Franken would be very much like him and fight for the middle class,like Wellstone did.

Go Al!


So do you feel Franken will offer compromise across the aisle to get things done, or just try and bullying things through?

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