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How benevolent of you.
And what a wonderful sentiment on Christmas Eve.
Fuck 'em, let them die if they have no one to help them.
Let's see...we were talking about the bailout and now we're talking about Christmas? Did you buy gifts or did you send all your money beyond your basic needs to Africa for the Children? You use the net...from a public library system or did you selfishly use the money for your own comfort to post from home? We all make selfish choices that make us more than adequately comfortable while "children are dying in Central America."
I never said you didn't have to try to save everyone....I just state that it just isn't possible.
And which people do you choose to save, since it is going to come down to choices. Pick people who are survivors or those that aren't. Do you let people die who could survive because you try to save people who are dead? We "triage" all the time.
And yeah, some people die. Nothing is ever going to change that.
And one way to minimize that except getting people to be self sufficient. And we know that's not going to happen as long as well meaning but misguided people try to save everyone. Hard, but true. Remember that guy Darwin? Something about evolution?
And as far as the benevolence....I believe in an "enlightened self-interest" approach to life, as discussed by de Tocqueville.
No, you weren't talking about the bailout.
You were talking about your own narrow-minded ideology which, correct me if I'm wrong, consists of your belief that if bad things happen to people it is invariably their own fault and they should be good little buckeroos and pull themselves up by their own bootstraps so you don't have to be bothered.
Actually, you were wrong. I was answering your snide response. Let me answer this one as well.
I was calling you out for trying to have it both ways. People will die. It is a given. Some people, even if through no fault of their own, will not survive. Sucks, but true. People are dying tonight from starvation and other horrors.
My philosophy, if you had checked, was about doing what is good for others and as a result, ultimately accrues benefits to myself.
The bailouts we continue to see are "saving" businesses that perhaps should not survive. My post was about how the bailout mentality is bad for this country, but that it is a consequence of the past. People expect someone (the gov't, in this case) to swoop in and take care of things and make it all better. And the gov't can't do as good a job at it as a family member, friend, charity or themselves. Who is thriving after Katrina relief? I'd lay dollars to donuts that those that are doing the best are those that are doing for themselves. We still have people in hotels on the beach, eating on our dime, with no apparent desire to make their lives better....they just complain about the buffet and rooms.
You, on the other hand, can't get past the fact that I stated that people will die and not everyone could be saved. Did I say it was a good thing? No. I stated that it was inevitable. Try to save all and you end up saving none.
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