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Russian professor predicted 2010 demise of US - 1/1/2009 6:46:52 PM   
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http://www.campaignforliberty.org/blog.php?view=7004
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RE: Russian professor predicted 2010 demise of US - 1/1/2009 6:48:50 PM   
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RE: Russian professor predicted 2010 demise of US - 1/1/2009 6:56:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sounds like somebody whose guesses are partly coming true.  There are millions of people making guesses out there every day.  Some of them WILL come true.  And some of them will get famous for it.  Doesn't mean they're intelligent or that their luck in predicting the future will continue, in my opinion.

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RE: Russian professor predicted 2010 demise of US - 1/1/2009 6:56:46 PM   
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Igor N. Panarin (Russia) Doctor of political sciences, professor of the Diplomatic Academy Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Russia.
Prof. PANARIN is the author of nine books, «Infowar and power”, “Infowar and world”, “Infowar and election”, and others, and of many political essays published in various journals. Prof. PANARIN often take part in different political discussions on the Russian TV on the main problems of Russian policy, development of relationships between USA and Russia and many others.
His main interests are history, philosophy, psychology, computer science, communication, election technology, conceptual problems of globalization, the theory and practice of infowar.





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RE: Russian professor predicted 2010 demise of US - 1/1/2009 7:01:36 PM   
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Pay particular attention to the map, who will own you soon?

Same person who owns me now....ME.


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RE: Russian professor predicted 2010 demise of US - 1/1/2009 7:08:25 PM   
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c'mon, you actually don't believe this housing crisis etc doesn't have some deeper thoughts to it..reasoning, conspiracy or end game?

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RE: Russian professor predicted 2010 demise of US - 1/1/2009 7:11:53 PM   
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Pay particular attention to the map, who will own you soon?

http://www.campaignforliberty.org/blog.php?view=7004


It certainly won't be the pile of dead Canadians the guy predicts will rule my section. Even if it happened, and the US broke up, which in the long term I think would be a good thing. My guess is the resulting nations would be very apprehensive about bowing to any other established power structure seeing the result of superpower status has had on the US and all that. I think Isolationism would boom, more than domination from abroad, not to mention the civil unrest a collapsed US would have on foreign countries, I doubt they'd be eyeing a land grab, or even have the resources in most cases to build an empire.

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RE: Russian professor predicted 2010 demise of US - 1/1/2009 7:14:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think if the good professor would have kept his theory more on a possible change in "form of government" in the United States his thesis would seem more within the realm of possibility.  It's kinda silly, and probably based on his experience with the disintergration of the Soviet Union, to believe that China would control the Western USA; "Mexico", a corrupt country that can't even control it's own people would control the southwest, and "Canada"..part of the northern tier .. eh!  He also did not factor in Sarah Palin being Governor of Alaska and would shoot the balls off the first Russian troops that waded ashore.
Seriously, the USA faced disintergration over slavery and found the leadership in Lincoln who, while hated by most of the north for the first few years, finally found Grant and saved the union.  Today, he is on a pedestal as one of, if not the greatest, Presidents in our history.  During the 1930's the communist party made terrific inroads in the USA and was essentially a vassel of the Stalin regime.  At that time we saw unemployment range close to 20% for most of the first two terms of FDR after peaking closer to 25%! Today we are close to 7% and worst case seems to be 10% in 2009 prior to the economy showing a recovery, and in the 1930's, unemployment was a lot more severe for the family than these days.
While Obama and a super liberal Congress could test the willingness of the American people to turn over increased control of and how we live our lives to government, in 2010 we will have an important mid-term election that conceivably could see the loss of control by the liberal wing of the party, if not the democrat party in general.  People, rightfully, don't trust the government to do much right and Obama's leadership has yet to be proven. But disintergration of the USA and our free capitalist system does not seem in the cards to me.  If it does happen, I won't be around to see it and neither will a few people in my line of fire.

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RE: Russian professor predicted 2010 demise of US - 1/1/2009 7:16:33 PM   
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c'mon, you actually don't believe this housing crisis etc doesn't have some deeper thoughts to it..reasoning, conspiracy or end game?

Conspiracy theories violate Occam's Razor, which when applied to politics and economics may be fairly stated thusly:

Never assume malice when stupidity will suffice.

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RE: Russian professor predicted 2010 demise of US - 1/1/2009 7:17:21 PM   
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Pay particular attention to the map, who will own you soon?

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I was just thinking the same thing.  And I have to add, having looked at his map - if the ol' boy thinks that the South will end up under Mexican domination/control - omg he soooooooo does NOT know Southners.  More likely that - should such a split occur - that portion of the US would literally become it's own country, under No One's outside control, with tighter borders than a Victorian prude's chastity belt and truss!  Hell, half the time we don't pay particular attention to what the yahoos in DC are blathering about - much less give a shit what someone from Outside says.

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RE: Russian professor predicted 2010 demise of US - 1/1/2009 7:19:52 PM   
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if the ol' boy thinks that the South will end up under Mexican domination/control - omg he soooooooo does NOT know Southners.

Nor does he know his history.

Remember the Alamo, anyone?


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RE: Russian professor predicted 2010 demise of US - 1/1/2009 7:20:30 PM   
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Do you think that they take this whole thing a little too seriously? And if so, why would that be?

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RE: Russian professor predicted 2010 demise of US - 1/1/2009 7:31:13 PM   
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Already, I know people that live like this, sans the sovereign nation part.


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RE: Russian professor predicted 2010 demise of US - 1/1/2009 7:37:04 PM   
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and who says any Southerners or anyone else would do so willingly? or let anyone live to fight? or trading of military troups to do the dirty work? Some even think the government would hand it over like candy, as long as the privilleged few get their own lil part of the world that is promised. 




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RE: Russian professor predicted 2010 demise of US - 1/1/2009 7:51:07 PM   
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Do you think that they take this whole thing a little too seriously?


          "Seriously," Kitten?  The guy thinks Texas is going to come under the influence of Texas.  Bit of a shark jump.

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RE: Russian professor predicted 2010 demise of US - 1/1/2009 7:55:33 PM   
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RE: Russian professor predicted 2010 demise of US - 1/1/2009 7:59:29 PM   
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I chose to ignore the blogging comments.

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RE: Russian professor predicted 2010 demise of US - 1/1/2009 7:59:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Do you think that they take this whole thing a little too seriously?


         "Seriously," Kitten?  The guy thinks Texas is going to come under the influence of Texas.  Bit of a shark jump.


Right :-) . Just another proof that people just love getting riled up... especially when it's over a Russian bloke making ridiculous apocalyptic "predictions" about the imminent future of the U.S. of A.



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RE: Russian professor predicted 2010 demise of US - 1/1/2009 7:59:44 PM   
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RE: Russian professor predicted 2010 demise of US - 1/1/2009 8:05:53 PM   
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Well, I guess it is a bit of humour. I got at least, half a laugh, out of it. Combined with an eye roll.

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