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RE: Russian professor predicted 2010 demise of US - 1/2/2009 3:13:24 AM   
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Pay particular attention to the map, who will own you soon?

http://www.campaignforliberty.org/blog.php?view=7004


Well, if we are going to be divided and taken over by foreigners in 2010, I guess I will not worry about all those saying that the end of the world will occur in 2012. 

Yeah, that's a load off my mind, too. I was freaking out at the prospect of no more Mayan Calendars after 22/12/12. 

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RE: Russian professor predicted 2010 demise of US - 1/2/2009 4:52:01 AM   
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If one year ago someone predicted that the US would be part owners of the financial systems(ie.socialism,the real kind,not what cons have been calling liberals,but real hardcore government ownership),that guy would have been laughed off the stage.

Not now.


Lol....

One thing republicans showed us,there`s nothing solid, infallible or incorruptible,nothing.Anything can happen.Anything.

Given enough time ,neglect and malfeasance,even the US can be brought down.

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RE: Russian professor predicted 2010 demise of US - 1/2/2009 5:08:09 AM   
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What a lie..we, Europe, don't want part of the USA..we will sell it!!!

But theoretically..if a country goes bankrupt......one can claim it..or not?



Pennsylvania  will NEVER agree to be part of EU.    ....BTW  crunch the numbers and find that EU isnt too far from bad finances.

Alaska will never agree to go to Russia.

...decentralization IS coming.   being that state rights have been muted to the globalists, it is past due.

the proposed map is not gonna occur.   Chicago is not South Dekota.      no matter how you slice it tho- the system is top heavy and centralized planning is unworkable.



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RE: Russian professor predicted 2010 demise of US - 1/2/2009 5:30:40 AM   
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BTW crunch the numbers and find that EU isnt too far from bad finances.


true.. we always follow the USA lol we are loyal as hell
but..we like to solve the core cause :P

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RE: Russian professor predicted 2010 demise of US - 1/2/2009 5:30:57 AM   
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There is only one thing wrong with that map......Hawaii will actually become part of North Korea.

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RE: Russian professor predicted 2010 demise of US - 1/2/2009 5:37:02 AM   
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There is only one thing wrong with that map......Hawaii will actually become part of North Korea.



I have interest in Hawaii..... how much is it?
Do you accept Visa?

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RE: Russian professor predicted 2010 demise of US - 1/2/2009 5:44:08 AM   
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6 billion Ameros, and resettlement costs for the yokels.

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RE: Russian professor predicted 2010 demise of US - 1/2/2009 5:50:39 AM   
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BTW crunch the numbers and find that EU isnt too far from bad finances.


true.. we always follow the USA lol we are loyal as hell
but..we like to solve the core cause :P


Hello Dark,

I truly wish that todays leaders would solve the core problems.

I am preparing tho.  A bit of silver/gold.  

Maybe from the ashes we can build a new phoenix.

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RE: Russian professor predicted 2010 demise of US - 1/2/2009 5:53:38 AM   
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What's wrong with the old Phoenix?

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RE: Russian professor predicted 2010 demise of US - 1/2/2009 5:55:01 AM   
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Wasn't there a thread not long ago about slavery being legal again by the government, would you want to be such? Would you find that funny? Honestly, unless you have some great intelligence to add ...(not the intell you over-estimate)....they won't love you longer than an expiration date on a carton of milk.

I don't know if you answered on that thread but maybe because you feel you have less to lose  as a submissive is why you (joke) believe you can joke about loss of freedom? 


I find people who believe in<b> crackpot conspiracy theories to be hillarious.  If you want to believe that some secret group of people is nefariously plotting to take over the world and enslave humanity</b>, you go ahead and believe that.  It's not based in reality, and you're wasting your time worrying about it. 

I don't know why you want to connect my personal sexual tastes to my world view, but it's not the case.  I joke about it, because I find humor in the absurd. 


Im not sure what one would need to see this as what is happening.  The deck is stacked.  Alot.

...the bail out of billionaires could be a hint.

when the crowd figures this out- in particular that they are cold hungry and tired..  the riots start.



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RE: Russian professor predicted 2010 demise of US - 1/2/2009 5:55:27 AM   
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Silver and gold......always good to have
And perhaps we can go to Siberia to get oil..when the Russians are busy in Alaska

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RE: Russian professor predicted 2010 demise of US - 1/2/2009 5:57:40 AM   
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Alaska has HUGE amounts of oil.

1 lone guy tho like me, isnt able to change things tho.  I can conduct my life efficiently.... 

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RE: Russian professor predicted 2010 demise of US - 1/2/2009 6:05:33 AM   
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Will be interesting to see if Russian propaganda works on its people in the twenty first century the way it did in the twentieth. That map isn't for your viewing and there are always serious intensions behind something such as this. No serious economic discussion can come from this, amusing it has made four pages thus far though.

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RE: Russian professor predicted 2010 demise of US - 1/2/2009 6:23:51 AM   
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That's an interesting interpretation but I think he's putting too much Russian flavor on our country.  We're in for a bumpy ride, but even in the worst of economic times I don't think we'd break apart into different nations. 

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RE: Russian professor predicted 2010 demise of US - 1/2/2009 6:29:10 AM   
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Too funny.

Does anyone actually believe this theory?

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RE: Russian professor predicted 2010 demise of US - 1/2/2009 6:29:46 AM   
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...Never assume malice when stupidity will suffice...


That's actually quite brilliant. Can I use it?

By all means.  I'm not the author, merely someone who finds the statement handy now and again.


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RE: Russian professor predicted 2010 demise of US - 1/2/2009 6:45:02 AM   
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What's wrong with the old Phoenix?


It's full of pensioners

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RE: Russian professor predicted 2010 demise of US - 1/2/2009 6:50:23 AM   
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Damn pensioners grrr
 
Depressing us all with their talk of medical conditions to look forward to.

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RE: Russian professor predicted 2010 demise of US - 1/2/2009 7:21:01 AM   
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The map thing is a little whacky, but the guy has a point as long as we dispose of the geography and transfer his ideas to demography instead.

The US (and the UK for that matter) is being undermined and its being- insomuch as it arises from its people rather than its territory - is at risk of disintegration. Our Russian friend points this out in his comments about immigration, economic woes and moral degradation which have already brought disunity, loss of national ideation and belief and widening socio-economic gaps between individuals, groups and states.

We are not likely to see the sort of map proposed, but we are likely to see these negative traits enhanced and deepened, with the end result being a demise of the US every bit as dramatic in that its people will no longer see themselves as Americans but rather describe themselves according to ethnic, socio-economic or geographic denominators. And once such division is in place, without the glue of a common national identity, the prospects for unrest between groups described by such denominators become far higher.

However this is not a doom to which we are necessarily condemned any longer, as we most certainly might have been without the sharp arrest we have experienced economically in the last year. Whilst these present conditions and what shall be announced shortly about the situation do not bode well for us in the short to medium term, they represent an opportunity in the medium-long term to get back on track not only economically, but individually, socially and nationally.

In this, leadership of the highest calibre will be required, to make us all understand that there is no such thing as an easy life, that our success is directly related to the success of our neighbour and to the aspiration and application of all according to their capacities and inclinations, and that the continued celebration of the easy dollar and the betrayal of one's neighbour and one's country that this so often means be replaced with the promotion of the excellent and the seeking of new heights of achievement at home which builds more reliable wealth albeit over a longer period. And from that we must replace the notion that quick profit and rapacious greed are the co-arbiters of excellence and achievement.

But to do that requires first the restoration of national identity - not in some high blown patriotic jingosim but in the recognition that we are all in this together and each a part of a whole. Most especially, the likes of the rich and powerful need to understand this the most, and it must be a culture wide phenomenon embracing the media, the home, the workplace and the social sphere such that everyone is playing for the team and the star players most especially know that their star status is nothing without the rest.

Our problems as they stand are as described by our Russian friend; immigration without integration, economic woes brought about by the short term thinking represented by outsourcing alongside low cost immigrant labour and a financial sector out of control, moral degradation - not in some religious way but rather in our notion that we ought to aspire to the unthinking decadence of the consumer culture, financed not by our own toil, achievement and investment but by easy credit.

So, I rather see this prediction - and it applies equally to the UK - as a warning and a wake up call, to end what is left of the ways that have obtained these last years (and we might trace these ways to the early 80s as easily as the late 90s), and replace them with ways not as attractive perhaps but certainly more realistic, and so avert the explosion of the timebomb ticking in our midst.

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RE: Russian professor predicted 2010 demise of US - 1/2/2009 7:39:28 AM   
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The funny thing about your link are the outraged comments by the indignant American readers  .

Do you think that they take this whole thing a little too seriously? And if so, why would that be?


Some people take everything they hear and read very seriously....kinda scary when you think about it.

Me, I am not worried. Michigan will be taken over by the Canadians and my family went there before they came here, so no worries.

I just hope I can get the accent down.....How's that, eh!

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