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ResidentSadist -> RE: Has anyone had better luck with sites other than CM? (1/3/2009 5:33:51 PM)

You may need to adjust your goals if you plan to find someone.  Either a virgin or Dominant.  Finding a combo like that in someone older than you is going to be very rare.  If you didn’t have a couple hundred posts and over a year on these boards as history here I would have thought this was a put on.




hermione83 -> RE: Has anyone had better luck with sites other than CM? (1/3/2009 7:22:22 PM)

I do support myself. I've been doing it for two years. I hate it. I'm successful at it. That makes me feel dead and unloved that I *have* to. If it weren't doing it for sheer survival, I may do it because I wanted to. Nevermind, I guess no one can possibly understand. If I become *independent* which is different than just education/job/living alone.. that means a lot of other things I have refused to do, like take decent care of myself etc and fully accept this life. I will change forever and I will not be submissive anymore. The *only* think that turns me on in *any* way is the Dominance/submission thing and without that there will be no romantic relationships. I know myself. I've been hanging onto my sucky life so I could be rescued while I still needed it - and letting myself get unhealthier and unhealthier in many ways so I don't let it get by. I cannot become healthy on my own without destroying my chances at ever having a relationship with anyone. I'm serious. Maybe you all don't understand that, but it's true. Oh yeah, and I have like 10 vibrators, and I've never had the big "O" btw.




hermione83 -> RE: Has anyone had better luck with sites other than CM? (1/3/2009 7:31:45 PM)

I would have it as a requirement that he had had a serious relationship. I've had a few serious relationships.. almost married.. etc.. all of mine have been serious. You don't have to have sex to have a serious relationship. The relationships I've had that have failed with virgins have been because I was their first girl to really get used to.. and they just.. didn't know how to act and thought girls should be .. less mysterious creatures, and such. 




hermione83 -> RE: Has anyone had better luck with sites other than CM? (1/3/2009 7:34:09 PM)

It's not hard to find a virgin or a Dominant.... Neither would work out for me. I've tried dating any variety of what I wanted, trust me.. Those are just the basics of course, though I think if someone happened to be all those things he'd have to be the right one, but I could get unlucky enough to find one just like that I had no chemistry with I'm sure. But I think he'd probably have to be lying about one of them (like being dominant).




hermione83 -> RE: Has anyone had better luck with sites other than CM? (1/3/2009 7:36:51 PM)

PS how do you find out about those D/s meetup things?




trealeon -> RE: Has anyone had better luck with sites other than CM? (1/3/2009 7:48:25 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: hermione83

I do support myself. I've been doing it for two years. I hate it. I'm successful at it. That makes me feel dead and unloved that I *have* to. If it weren't doing it for sheer survival, I may do it because I wanted to. Nevermind, I guess no one can possibly understand. If I become *independent* which is different than just education/job/living alone.. that means a lot of other things I have refused to do, like take decent care of myself etc and fully accept this life. I will change forever and I will not be submissive anymore. The *only* think that turns me on in *any* way is the Dominance/submission thing and without that there will be no romantic relationships. I know myself. I've been hanging onto my sucky life so I could be rescued while I still needed it - and letting myself get unhealthier and unhealthier in many ways so I don't let it get by. I cannot become healthy on my own without destroying my chances at ever having a relationship with anyone. I'm serious. Maybe you all don't understand that, but it's true. Oh yeah, and I have like 10 vibrators, and I've never had the big "O" btw.


Wow,

I don't know what to say except something has to give. I think the combination of everything you have said in your profile plus everything you have posted here and putting that all together into a composite of what you have revealed about your personality, it makes your situation such an outlier (so far into one particular extreme) that it's going to be extremely difficult if not impossible to find what you're looking for.

As someone else pointed out, you're already pulling from a smaller pool of "fish" in the vast ocean. We all are doing that, but no big deal, we've found a place where all of those fish can hang out. And hey, we all have criteria, things we want, so that's not unusual. But a lot of your criteria shrink the already small subset so drastically, that you're looking for what could maybe be 1 or 2 people in 10,000 (I totally made up those odds but it seems that way). And as you've stated yourself, you have no wiggle room.

Hey it's fine to have things that are absolute deal breakers, I don't even think you have too many of them as far as quantity, it's just that they are biggies.

The two that stand out the most are... virgin and does not have nor want kids.

The virgin thing because it leaves no room for "error". I'm a Christian too, so I get where you're coming from but I can tell you, we're not all virgins. Of course I don't jump into sex with a girl after one date or anything like that, but I have been in relationships that I thought were lasting and we've had sex.

I think you'll find that there are a lot of Christian guys like that, who don't see sex as the only goal but have had a few sexual partners in their life just because they really loved the person. Your ad is kind of a slap in the face to those kinds of guys, not because of what you want, just how you word it. Hard to explain.

The "no kids" thing. I don't have kids, I'm not even sure if I want them, but then that's the thing. The moment you put that out there. "Absolutely no kids ever" it makes a person stop and think... "well... maybe I might want kids." and so to be faced with "if you ever even have an inclining that you may want kids then don't bother talking to me"... most guys are going to go... "well, I dunno, I might want kids" and then... they won't bother talking to you.

Now, I say all this, not to say that you should change what you want. These sound like really "hard limits" for you... different from "hey I want a guy that's over 5'9" " where there could be room for compromise if a 5'7" guy contacted you and had everything else. But you have to realize that you are going to have to WORK HARD to find those outliers like you, the very few guys who exist out there who meet everything you want.

It doesn't sound like you're willing to put in nearly the requisite amount of effort. From your posts and your ads, you just expect this person to find you. You think that posting your ad on a different site will solve the problem. I am telling you, it will not.

I don't think your problem is your criteria, I think your problem is your attitude. You have high expectations of the man you want to meet and no expectation of yourself. You feel you can sit and do nothing and he will just come to you. You need to understand, HE DOESN'T KNOW YOU'RE OUT THERE. He doesn't know where to look, he doesn't know where you are, or how to find you. But I bet you anything, he's working hard to find someone. He's doing everything in his power to find the person that meets his criteria because he knows the only way to get that right girl is to keep seeking and keep trying. But chances are, he's going to find another girl, a girl who is also working hard and trying to find someone and who isn't just sitting on the sidelines waiting and hoping.

If you want what you want, you have to act. You can't be passive in your search and right now, that's what it seems like. As many have pointed out, there are a lot of different ways to find what you're looking for, but it all starts with changing your attitude about your search.




ResidentSadist -> RE: Has anyone had better luck with sites other than CM? (1/3/2009 7:51:35 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: hermione83
It's not hard to find a virgin or a Dominant.... Neither would work out for me. I've tried dating any variety of what I wanted, trust me.. Those are just the basics of course, though I think if someone happened to be all those things he'd have to be the right one, but I could get unlucky enough to find one just like that I had no chemistry with I'm sure. But I think he'd probably have to be lying about one of them (like being dominant).

I wish you luck in your search.  You may have better luck searching in venues for virgins than BDSM.  Finding a “vanilla conversion” candidate might be easier since the male role and dominance are closely associated. 

I once searched for a shemale midget nun…  but that is another story.




Jeptha -> RE: Has anyone had better luck with sites other than CM? (1/3/2009 7:59:14 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: hermione83

I thought that was just for jobs and selling old chairs or something.

Well, you can pick up an old chair at the same time!

Seriously, though, I am getting the impression that maybe going the independent route might be the best for you.
Get that solid foundation going and who knows what doors may open up for you - though I know you feel you won't need them at that point.

I don't mean to discourage you in your search, but that's my impression. Stay positive. Best of luck.




hermione83 -> RE: Has anyone had better luck with sites other than CM? (1/3/2009 8:03:20 PM)

I appreciate what you're saying about actively looking, but I just don't think I can manage to do that. I think you are probably totally right, but I'm very submissive, old fashioned and super shy. I'm not not meeting people out of pride alone, I hope (not expect) someone to find me because it would be a MIRACLE for me to muster any amount of courage in this life time for that sort of thing.




trealeon -> RE: Has anyone had better luck with sites other than CM? (1/3/2009 8:13:48 PM)

but you don't think it will take a miracle for this person to just "find" you? Of course, I don't know you and the challenges you face with actively searching, but I think your miracle would be a guy literally falling into your life that meets every criteria you are asking for AND actively looks past all the girls that are actively seeking and putting themselves out there to find the one girl who is hiding in the proverbial corner and hoping to be noticed.




DominaSmartass -> RE: Has anyone had better luck with sites other than CM? (1/3/2009 8:15:40 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: miranda151

try FetLife.com


While it's not a dating site, I do agree with this.

The thing about fetlife is it will work better if you've got real life friends who you can connect with and meet people through. I do not accept friends requests from people I don't know offline and I know many others who don't either. Thus, it really works better in the social network sense when you have some real-life contact to start with. The only way to gain that is to go out and meet people. If you're unwilling to do that then you're sort of stuck no matter which way you slice it.




sirsholly -> RE: Has anyone had better luck with sites other than CM? (1/4/2009 1:25:04 AM)

quote:

I do support myself. I've been doing it for two years. I hate it. I'm successful at it. That makes me feel dead and unloved that I *have* to.


Honey...lemme give you a dose of reality: There are very few of us who do not have to work. Most couples have a two income household just to pay the mortage and eat.

You want to be the damsel who is rescued by a knight on a white horse and taken to a castle to live happily ever after.

Lemme know how this works out for you....[8|]




Daddysgoodgirl02 -> RE: Has anyone had better luck with sites other than CM? (1/4/2009 1:37:42 AM)

Hermione, sorry you have had such poor luck on this site. I do not want to sound snotty but it's a free site open to basically anyone who feels like posting. What do you expect? You cannot let it effect how you view D/s as a whole. I met my husband, who is also my Master, in an AOL chatroom. I simply let down my guard and trusted him enough to see where he might take me as a new submissive. I had been interested in BDSM for about a year at this point. I have been his for 6yrs now. He attends church with me and my family loves him. Not saying this to brag just showing you that it is possible to meet "Master right" online. Dont give up and dont sell yourself short.




susie -> RE: Has anyone had better luck with sites other than CM? (1/4/2009 1:45:51 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sirsholly


You want to be the damsel who is rescued by a knight on a white horse and taken to a castle to live happily ever after.

Lemme know how this works out for you....[8|]



My thoughts too. Last time I heard Prince Charming was pretty much taken with Cinderella so he is out of the running.

Seriously hermione I think you have been reading way too many fairy stories and taking them as fact. Men do not come riding to the rescue these days. Being independent does not mean not being submissive. I have travelled all over the world working since the age of 21. I am now the Finance Director of an automotive company but to Master I am his slave.

It is hard enough in this world to find someone but to limit your options as much as you have makes it all the harder. It took me to the age of 44 to find the perfect match. I can see your search taking even longer unless you start looking seriously at the obvious issues you have and start dealing with them. 




BondageBarbieX -> RE: Has anyone had better luck with sites other than CM? (1/4/2009 4:03:45 AM)

Have you looked at the FetLife Christian groups yet? and there is nothing wrong with not wanting to work,I never have and never plan to either,but that's just me,a lot of women enjoy working.




badlilthang -> RE: Has anyone had better luck with sites other than CM? (1/4/2009 4:11:33 AM)

seems to me you have such endless criterias for the Virgin Dom - that it is impossible for anyone to meet them...at the same time, you seem to think you do not need to bring anything into the relationship. Are you willing to take care of the home - cook and clean - do as he tells you to do - willingly and happily? Make the time He is able to spend at home pleasureable and relaxing for Him?
You do not want to work - that makes you feel empty. Odd for me - i started working when i was 17 - today i have my own little company and i am quite proud of being able to do this. i am still submissive - that is my nature, and working/not working will not change that. In a relationship i would like to pull my own weight, and not expect my Dom/Master to pull all those long hours - just to provide for Him and me alone. As a matter of fact, that would make me a tad ashamed - and believe me...if i had a very wealthy Dom - who did not want me to work - but to take care of Him and the house - i would obey - but i would also have begged to discuss it - because a social life IS important for us all. Him being out there in the world - getting new experiences, and you home alone always - puttering around the house. Cabin fever comes to mind, but that is how i would feel - others might love it this way. The interaction with other people can teach us a lot of things. But read books, watch the news - make sure You can talk to Him and be a part of good discussions - broaden your views - be interesting...then He will want to hurry home and spend time with you... IF i ended up being a homemaker - the house would be spotless, though...(and since i do not really love housework...laughs...it would be a challenge in itself). If you find One - and you are able to stay home - good for you, just make sure that He secures your future just in case he dies before you...and another thought - what if the relationship/marriage just ends? How will you pay the bills? Surely you are not expecting Him to take care of that also after the divorce?

you have some issues you need to deal with. You say you are so shy - why not try a therapist? Until you are ok with who you are, and safe in your own skin - it is futile to expect the knight in shining armor to arrive. Especially one without any experience...

i wish you the best of luck - and i sincerely hope you are not in for a rude awakening...


edited a bit...i added something...






colouredin -> RE: Has anyone had better luck with sites other than CM? (1/4/2009 4:25:24 AM)

This is all a bit of a train wreck. Ok firstly desperation is not attractive to people who are worth attracting. Everything in your profile is trimmed with cynisism and need. Seriously if thats who you are and im guessing from reading your posts it is then you have much bigger issues than whether you will find 'earth shattering love' (oh and we dont all live in a hollywood movie).

Looking for someone to rely on is never the way to go. I do think you come to rely on someone but not being able to function as a normal person without someone else propping you up is not good. You really need to work on that. One line in your profile says will you make her yours even if she tries to be coy. Im thinking you have some confidence stuff going on, there are some great courses out there that teach assertivness which would be good for you. You really cant expect someone to come along and do all the work. You have to be a worthwhile person to make the effort for.

Knowing what you want is fine, great honestly never give up your ideals. However you should also be realisitic what you want is something that isnt to be found around every corner. Putting a time limit on it (another desperation thing) is not going to work and also not increase your chances of meeting someone like it. The thing is all that you say you want is stuff, its not really about his personality, you are being so specific about silly little things that even if you do meet someone fitting all your critera you may totally clash. i personally think that you are focussing on the wrong things, thats your perogative but if you are going to be so choosy you have to be patiant oh and you have to be worth it.




MrDevlin -> RE: Has anyone had better luck with sites other than CM? (1/4/2009 6:15:45 AM)

And to my detractor/s(specific quotes would just be petty);

Construing the perpetuation of another's self-delusions as "helping" occurs more readily when they dovetail with your own.  The vehemence with which you object to dissent will occur in direct proportion to the subjugation of the truth within yourself.




T1981 -> RE: Has anyone had better luck with sites other than CM? (1/4/2009 7:07:10 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: hermione83

I do support myself. I've been doing it for two years. I hate it. I'm successful at it. That makes me feel dead and unloved that I *have* to. If it weren't doing it for sheer survival, I may do it because I wanted to. Nevermind, I guess no one can possibly understand. If I become *independent* which is different than just education/job/living alone.. that means a lot of other things I have refused to do, like take decent care of myself etc and fully accept this life. I will change forever and I will not be submissive anymore. The *only* think that turns me on in *any* way is the Dominance/submission thing and without that there will be no romantic relationships. I know myself. I've been hanging onto my sucky life so I could be rescued while I still needed it - and letting myself get unhealthier and unhealthier in many ways so I don't let it get by. I cannot become healthy on my own without destroying my chances at ever having a relationship with anyone. I'm serious. Maybe you all don't understand that, but it's true. Oh yeah, and I have like 10 vibrators, and I've never had the big "O" btw.


With that attitude, you are not going to attract a Dominant. At best, you'll attract a man whom, in his desperate and misguided attempt to "save" you, will only damage you further.

At worst, you'll attract an abusive asshole who could hurt you so bad you wind up in the hospital or dead.

And you're right, I don't understand you, because you are coming from a very, very, very unhealthy place. I'm not going to be able to change your mind. This is now obvious, and it should have been obvious to me from your second post in this thread. But for what it's worth, for the mere fact that what we are seeing is a person spinning out of control...well, I've said my piece concerning it.

I just really hope you're not the first person I see someone making a thread about here that says "BE CAREFUL, LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS CHICK!"

I want to put off reading that thread for as long as I can.





DarkSteven -> RE: Has anyone had better luck with sites other than CM? (1/4/2009 7:17:39 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: badlilthang

seems to me you have such endless criteria for the Virgin Dom - that it is impossible for anyone to meet them.


While I wouldn't go as far as to say that it is "impossible", Hermione makes it more difficult with every added criterion.  Also, note that she is not using a battery of hired private investigators to comb the country but is hoping that he will initiate contact.

Some specific suggestions:

1. Relax.  If you state that "#1: Do not waste our time by contacting me for anything but friendship unless you are a virgin male. Or bother lying about it. It's not worth it. I am NOT interested if you are NOT a virgin, sorry!" that's got a lot more vehemence than "I need a man who is a virgin".  I do NOT like vehemence in a profile.  To me it indicates that the profile's author has unresolved anger issues.

2. Avoid the unnecessary.

"If you are a crazy con man, do not even bother contacting me. I will find out, collect evidence, and then make sure you are brought to justice."

How many con men will this deter?  And does it apply to sane con men?

"Every single person I've had a chance with wants to have children one day. I do not. If you must have children of your own one day, do not contact me unless you just want to be friends. If you don't want them, or are undecided, or are only considering adoption, feel free to write. I am 100% sure that I will NEVER give birth to a child, and I will not accept someone who already has kids. Sorry, I don't want to waste our time."

You say that you will not accept someone with children.  Um, you're already requiring a virgin.  How many single men are out there with adopted children?

And just what kind of Dom do you want?  When I read the above, I get the idea that you want to define the relationship, and want a man who will step into your preconceived Dom role.  I get the feeling that your attitude is topping from the bottom.

What is your objection to children?  It sounds like you are open to having children, just not biologically.  And please note that your prohibition against them is reducing your prospective Dom pool a lot - you need to justify this to yourself.  It sounds like a pregnancy issue.

3. Drop that stupid questionnaire.  Again, I feel like you have a desire to be in control, asking prospectives to fill it out.  Some of the questions are stupid (Are you male?)  Some ask complex questions in yes-no fashion (How Dominant are you?  How monogamous are you?)  Some are sappy (Do you have a lot of compassion and empathy, kindness, trustworthiness, honesty, loyalty, bravery, protectiveness, goodness, and love in your heart? ).

First off, filling it out would be a pain.  Your profile gives me more than enough info that I know whether we're compatible or not.  You are asking FIFTY FOUR questions.

Second, it indicates to me that you have zero tolerance.  If there was a perfect Dom out there for you that experimented with crossdressing once when he was sixteen, or once wondered what it would be like to be on the receiving end, you've announced that he's not for you.  Hermione, you are a lot pickier than you ought to be.

Third, I feel it objectifies the prospective.  It reinforces the feeling that I am not being viewed as a person with MY OWN accomplishments, interests, and desires as much as how well I fit into YOUR criteria.

4, A suggestion - add in your profile what's in it for him.  Say something like, "I have no experience and would love to experiment with you.  Let's begin with nonsexual activities like spanking, bowing/kneeling, and me serving you and making you comfortable."  This not only lets him know what he can get out of the relationship, but also lets him know that you are realistically willing to grow the relationship instead of expecting everything to be and stay perfect. 




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