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all you haters must have been caught doing something wrong

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Maybe in the backwater where you live the evidence locker is made up of those rusty old shotguns, but here in NYC, the beat/radio car patrolmen deal with everything from 22's to automatic machine guns. Every flavor and variety in between and then let's throw in the knives, bats, clubs, chains, explosives and heaven knows what else.

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You can't be that naive to believe statistics for everything. *chuckles* Ignorance must be bliss. 

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ORIGINAL: slutslave4u

celticlord2112......As an ex-cop of many years, would not do us any good to get together to talk, as I see your views on the subject......I can get along very well with anyone, but what I see you saying here.....well, let's just say that I will be more of a man and reserve my comments....as I know they will not be appreciated, and know that I am a better man for keeping them to myself. You are a man that is in need of help!....and surprisingly, one day it just may be a cop that comes to you and offers that help too!



I sit here as an ex-cop, both military and civilian, of near 20 years, and have read just a few of the posts here, and what I am seeing disgusts me. 

I will say that yes the video was troublesome to see, and yes there are at times incidents that unfortunately do and will happen, face it folks the world is not a perfect place, never has been, and never will be. Yes there are some bad apples out there that have sworn to serve and to protect. But to bad mouth and bash all that do so on a daily basis, some of you need to grow up and get a life. You sit where you are, some making very good money, while an officer can and I personally knew of some that were collecting food stamps while on the job just to survive and put food on their table to feed their children because of the LOW pay they get for what they do every day so you can be  in a better place and make what you make, so you can sleep in peace and in safety at night, knowing they are out there protecting you and yours EVEN thought they dont even know who you are.

You want to bash someone, bash the corrupt ones, but instead you bash them all? What kind of world are you living in? What fantasy life are you in that the rest of society is clueless on? Cops on the street have never been up to date, with weaponry against the criminal out on the street. Departments do try, however it is a neverending thing. As for police not being able to hit what they do aim at, well as for this ex-cop, we trained often, and even in our off time...Want to see what I can hit? Officers spend more time in classes and training than you could ever imagine. Still yes, you will find and see an occassional corrupt one out there. Keeping in mind also in any given situation it is easy to sit and judge what an officer did out on the street, but keep in mind in the midst of things, that officer had maybe 2 seconds to make that decision, while you have a lifetime to judge whether he/she did right or wrong in it. A cop once hired on the job is next to useless for the first 1 1/2 to 2 years due to all the classes and training that they must go through. Effectively they are not good out on the street up to about 1 1/2 to 2 years, and still not have the experience that goes with all the training that has been thrown at them in that time. The officer that did this shooting, I believe they did say yes he was a rooky of 2 years, not enought time out there to gain any amount of real experience after all his training before he was put out there to begin with. I started civilian police in 1984, and that first year found myself being shot at for what? Because someone did not want to go to jail for their drugs? and for what, $12k a year, and IF I had a bullet proof vest, I HAD TO PAY FOR IT MYSELF. To protect you, those that rant and rave and bash those that are out there EVERY single day to try to make this world a better place for you to coninue making your money and having your families safe and secure? Those that want to bash the police, do so under the very protection that they provide for you every day, so you can rant and rave even.

Those here that bash ALL cops here, take a good hard look, someday you just may need them, and even though you bash them, they will come running anyway. To proctect you so you can bash them another day. You will need them some day....and tell me, when that day comes, will you still continue to bash them then?

Not all are bad apples, yes a few out there make it seem as so....but look at the number of EXTREMELY GOOD cops out there all across this country, then see the FEW bad ones out there.............me, yes I was a cop for a number of years, I'LL TAKE MY CHANCES WITH THEM, AND THANK THEM FOR WHAT THEY CONTINUE TO DO....do i still have guns, yes I do, will I use them IF I need to, yes I will......take them away from me? COME TRY!     

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ORIGINAL: UncleNasty

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ORIGINAL: slutslave4u

celticlord2112......As an ex-cop of many years, would not do us any good to get together to talk, as I see your views on the subject......I can get along very well with anyone, but what I see you saying here.....well, let's just say that I will be more of a man and reserve my comments....as I know they will not be appreciated, and know that I am a better man for keeping them to myself. You are a man that is in need of help!....and surprisingly, one day it just may be a cop that comes to you and offers that help too!



I sit here as an ex-cop, both military and civilian, of near 20 years, and have read just a few of the posts here, and what I am seeing disgusts me. 

I will say that yes the video was troublesome to see, and yes there are at times incidents that unfortunately do and will happen, face it folks the world is not a perfect place, never has been, and never will be. Yes there are some bad apples out there that have sworn to serve and to protect. But to bad mouth and bash all that do so on a daily basis, some of you need to grow up and get a life. You sit where you are, some making very good money, while an officer can and I personally knew of some that were collecting food stamps while on the job just to survive and put food on their table to feed their children because of the LOW pay they get for what they do every day so you can be  in a better place and make what you make, so you can sleep in peace and in safety at night, knowing they are out there protecting you and yours EVEN thought they dont even know who you are.

You want to bash someone, bash the corrupt ones, but instead you bash them all? What kind of world are you living in? What fantasy life are you in that the rest of society is clueless on? Cops on the street have never been up to date, with weaponry against the criminal out on the street. Departments do try, however it is a neverending thing. As for police not being able to hit what they do aim at, well as for this ex-cop, we trained often, and even in our off time...Want to see what I can hit? Officers spend more time in classes and training than you could ever imagine. Still yes, you will find and see an occassional corrupt one out there. Keeping in mind also in any given situation it is easy to sit and judge what an officer did out on the street, but keep in mind in the midst of things, that officer had maybe 2 seconds to make that decision, while you have a lifetime to judge whether he/she did right or wrong in it. A cop once hired on the job is next to useless for the first 1 1/2 to 2 years due to all the classes and training that they must go through. Effectively they are not good out on the street up to about 1 1/2 to 2 years, and still not have the experience that goes with all the training that has been thrown at them in that time. The officer that did this shooting, I believe they did say yes he was a rooky of 2 years, not enought time out there to gain any amount of real experience after all his training before he was put out there to begin with. I started civilian police in 1984, and that first year found myself being shot at for what? Because someone did not want to go to jail for their drugs? and for what, $12k a year, and IF I had a bullet proof vest, I HAD TO PAY FOR IT MYSELF. To protect you, those that rant and rave and bash those that are out there EVERY single day to try to make this world a better place for you to coninue making your money and having your families safe and secure? Those that want to bash the police, do so under the very protection that they provide for you every day, so you can rant and rave even.

Those here that bash ALL cops here, take a good hard look, someday you just may need them, and even though you bash them, they will come running anyway. To proctect you so you can bash them another day. You will need them some day....and tell me, when that day comes, will you still continue to bash them then?

Not all are bad apples, yes a few out there make it seem as so....but look at the number of EXTREMELY GOOD cops out there all across this country, then see the FEW bad ones out there.............me, yes I was a cop for a number of years, I'LL TAKE MY CHANCES WITH THEM, AND THANK THEM FOR WHAT THEY CONTINUE TO DO....do i still have guns, yes I do, will I use them IF I need to, yes I will......take them away from me? COME TRY!     

You have painted a very elaborate picture, holding out not only yourself, but the vast majority of other officers, as being victims and martyrs.

You have also failed utterly at providing any examples of anything that equates with, or even resembles, selfless service to your constituents.

So what numerous good and selfless deeds can be attributed to you in your 20 or more years of service to your fellow citizens?

There is reason for the strong and negative comments about those that have chosen your profession. History and experience.

Question for you. As part of your training are you taught how to maneuver, manipulate or trick people into giving up their rights? As a for instance how many citizens you had pulled over for allegedly routine traffic stops did you unlawfully and unethically intimidate into letting you search their vehicle?

Uncle Nasty (still on the mend)

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I remember I was walking to work close to "downtown" from my apartment on Floyd Avenue in the Fan District in Richmond, Va. This  was around 8:30 AM. This black sedan pulls up next to me, and this greaser-looking dude gets out, grabs me, and throwps me up against the car. I protested, and this fuck said, "Shut up or I'll shove this knife up your ass."

It was then that I understood that the Pigs aren't there to "protect" me. They are there to act out their fucked-up power trips.

I'm thrilled, gwynvyd, that you get kicks from fantasizing about Pigs.
You all can stay the fuck away from me.

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I remember I was walking to work close to "downtown" from my apartment on Floyd Avenue in the Fan District in Richmond, Va. This  was around 8:30 AM. This black sedan pulls up next to me, and this greaser-looking dude gets out, grabs me, and throwps me up against the car. I protested, and this fuck said, "Shut up or I'll shove this knife up your ass."

It was then that I understood that the Pigs aren't there to "protect" me. They are there to act out their fucked-up power trips.

I'm thrilled, gwynvyd, that you get kicks from fantasizing about Pigs.
You all can stay the fuck away from me.

What the fuck does that story have to do with cops?

As for the people complaining about bad experiences... well no shit. The corrupt cops are the ones that fuck around with people. The decent ones generally leave you alone unless you screw up. I'm not denying there are some screwy people around... but hey it's bound to happen.

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Oh, yeah, right, it's bound to happen that somebody is just bopping down the street and some pigs drive up and fuck with him for no reason. 

Here's what the fuck my story had to do with pigs. It was pigs that pulled over and fucked with me. Duh.

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ORIGINAL: NormalOutside

Stories about good things police officers did doesn't change the fact that there is a CLEAR trend toward more control in the hands of the government, police, and military, and less control in the hands of citizens.  When we are controlled by the people we hired to make our lives better, and sometimes even shot to death by them, there is a HUGE problem in society.  Yes, police officers rescue cats from rooftops.  They also gun down men, women, and children on a regular basis.  The police state is already here.  We are NOT free.

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Oh, yeah, right, it's bound to happen that somebody is just bopping down the street and some pigs drive up and fuck with him for no reason. 

Here's what the fuck my story had to do with pigs. It was pigs that pulled over and fucked with me. Duh.

This is a greaser. Just FYI in case you're planning on more story telling.