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Can you stand back and watch your partner get slated? - 1/8/2009 7:11:51 AM   
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Recently my partner was slated by some on the boards.

Now I have been slated on the boards on various occasions but if anything its made me laugh or just move onto another thread. Watching my partner be put down had a very different effect on me. It made me angry, which is something that surprises me as I so dislike and stay away from that emotion.

He's a big boy and thinks nothing of what anyone says. He brushed it off just as I would of done if it were aimed at me, but here is me sitting frustrated and pissed.

I recently found out about 2 people within the London BDSM community that have been gossiping and spreading rumors about him. He's not bothered about it but I am. I want to get hold of them both and confront them face to face, I want to bang there silly heads together and make them apologize.

Thinking about it I was like this with my last partner. He used to build dungeons for the pro Mistress and several of them thought they could open there legs and get the stuff on the cheap. He used to moan and complain but it would be me that drove the truck round, banged on the door and got a couple of heavies to remove what was not
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Am I over protective ? How would others feel in the same situation? Do you feel highly protective towards your partner?

Maria


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RE: Can you stand back and watch your partner get slated? - 1/8/2009 7:15:06 AM   
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Hmm......I actually am a moderator for another site so my husband is quite used to me huffing and puffing over the actions of other people online, and hate mail is nothing new to me. At first, I think he was a little concerned about how I would handle it, but I've been working with that site and the admins for going on 4 years now, so I've gotten to the point where I can brush it off.

There is the occasional point where someone will hurt my feelings, usually it is from a member that I had thought I were getting along with, but that's less to do with moderating than it is just average online interaction.

I can understand you getting upset about it, especially if it affects your face to face interactions with other people in your local scene, though. That would make things tougher.


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RE: Can you stand back and watch your partner get slated? - 1/8/2009 7:23:05 AM   
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Hmm......I actually am a moderator for another site so my husband is quite used to me huffing and puffing over the actions of other people online, and hate mail is nothing new to me. At first, I think he was a little concerned about how I would handle it, but I've been working with that site and the admins for going on 4 years now, so I've gotten to the point where I can brush it off.

There is the occasional point where someone will hurt my feelings, usually it is from a member that I had thought I were getting along with, but that's less to do with moderating than it is just average online interaction.

I can understand you getting upset about it, especially if it affects your face to face interactions with other people in your local scene, though. That would make things tougher.



Thanks T1 but it hasn't actually affected us, it has affected them because we have been given a huge amount of support from our local community and they are the ones that are sitting alone in the corner, not us but I still want to confront them, still want an explanation.
I wish I was calmer and less protective.

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RE: Can you stand back and watch your partner get slated? - 1/8/2009 7:26:38 AM   
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Oooh - that makes sense, sorry about that! Yeah, it seems it's human to want to get an explanation out of someone, even if it is nothing more than "Yeah, I was feeling like being a jackass". At least the local members of your community have seen them for the jerks they are, that's at least a little comfort in a bad situation!

Calm and productive takes time, and sometimes that never comes, and that's okay. We're human beings, we're allowed to be hurt and upset from time to time. I'm glad you were able to talk about it!


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RE: Can you stand back and watch your partner get slated? - 1/8/2009 7:41:29 AM   
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"Sticks and stones may break my bones but WORDS will never hurt me". Live by that and let the others be frustrated.

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RE: Can you stand back and watch your partner get slated? - 1/8/2009 7:48:46 AM   
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It depends whats been said, if people are ignoring them it doesnt matter much

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RE: Can you stand back and watch your partner get slated? - 1/8/2009 7:49:03 AM   
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Recently my partner was slated by some on the boards.

Now I have been slated on the boards on various occasions but if anything its made me laugh or just move onto another thread. Watching my partner be put down had a very different effect on me. It made me angry, which is something that surprises me as I so dislike and stay away from that emotion.


I believe it just comes down to not knowing people really.  In the sense that you see words, but do not necessarily know the people behind them.  So without facial expressions or physical expressions, and without knowing a person then words just some across blankly with no personality behind them.  So it can appear negative.
It's really important to remember as well that some of the topics (well most) have been presented before and whilst not an excuse, it can mean that some people get tired of answering - what seems to them -  the same old observation.

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He's a big boy and thinks nothing of what anyone says. He brushed it off just as I would of done if it were aimed at me, but here is me sitting frustrated and pissed.


Like you said before, your also unwell.  That doesn't help your emotional response either.  It's always easy to brush off personal yuck, but when you care for someone or know a person and see that their words have been misrepresented or misunderstood, you naturally want to explain to others. Again, it's just they don't know him and only have black and white words.

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I recently found out about 2 people within the London BDSM community that have been gossiping and spreading rumors about him. He's not bothered about it but I am. I want to get hold of them both and confront them face to face, I want to bang there silly heads together and make them apologize.


Ignore them.  I know it isn't always easy, but if you don't, you are giving them power over your emotions.

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Thinking about it I was like this with my last partner. He used to build dungeons for the pro Mistress and several of them thought they could open there legs and get the stuff on the cheap. He used to moan and complain but it would be me that drove the truck round, banged on the door and got a couple of heavies to remove what was not
paid for.


That's just you being far more proactive.  That's not a bad thing.

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Am I over protective ? How would others feel in the same situation? Do you feel highly protective towards your partner?

Maria



I feel protective against anyone I care about - that is totally natural.  My partner and family above all else.  But I learnt that the people I love and care aout don't need defending to people who have little or no impact on our personal lives.  However if I let other people cause my emotions to react, then I am letting them have power in my life and that I don't allow.  There is only one person who has ultimate authority and that's all that matters.  He says I am to ignore, I do it.  It's healthier and far more productive to just focus on the positive and love everyone anyway.  But then, I am all hippifreelove...
 
 
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RE: Can you stand back and watch your partner get slated? - 1/8/2009 7:52:34 AM   
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I have seen a ton of ordeal on message boards.  Yahoo in particular.  I too have been very mad over- what ends up to be words on a screen.

What would you like to do about it???  

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RE: Can you stand back and watch your partner get slated? - 1/8/2009 7:58:05 AM   
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I believe it just comes down to not knowing people really.  In the sense that you see words, but do not necessarily know the people behind them.  So without facial expressions or physical expressions, and without knowing a person then words just some across blankly with no personality behind them.  So it can appear negative.


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I agree with everything you say but will say that the above works two ways. When something negative is said to or about my partner its because they don't know him either because if they saw his expression, his fun, laughter and personality they may just get to like him but then you can't explain that to the boards.

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RE: Can you stand back and watch your partner get slated? - 1/8/2009 7:59:41 AM   
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It depends whats been said, if people are ignoring them it doesnt matter much


Its not that simple colourdin.... This caused such a ruck at one stage that it threatened our relationship. This was nasty vindictive stuff that was aimed to cause damage and very nearly did.

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RE: Can you stand back and watch your partner get slated? - 1/8/2009 8:02:34 AM   
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RE: Can you stand back and watch your partner get slated? - 1/8/2009 8:02:50 AM   
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i think it is a normal and natural reaction to want to defend your partner.

However..wanting to and actually doing it are two very different things. It will blow over.


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RE: Can you stand back and watch your partner get slated? - 1/8/2009 8:08:35 AM   
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I make my living with live performances and if I paid any attention to people who put me down i would be insane.

I don't care what people write or say about me.....The only things I care about is what I think, what my spouse thinks and are tickets selling.

Other than that, if my spouse responsed to all the bad things said about me or my shows she would go nuts. 

As they say.... "You can't please all the people all the time..so why try."

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RE: Can you stand back and watch your partner get slated? - 1/8/2009 8:11:39 AM   
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I agree with everything you say but will say that the above works two ways. When something negative is said to or about my partner its because they don't know him either because if they saw his expression, his fun, laughter and personality they may just get to like him but then you can't explain that to the boards.



Exactly, as I said above also, they just don;t know him.  But you do.  Isn't that all that matters?
Take a look at the boards.  How many people do you think you might meet in reality?  How many of these people/posters will have an actual impact on your life?  I always look at it in the sense that - those that have a worthwhile impact on our life, will be understanding enough to get to learn all his expressions and fun etc.  Those are the only people you need to have any concern over.  When it comes to people who you deal with in everyday life, same goes.
 
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RE: Can you stand back and watch your partner get slated? - 1/8/2009 8:13:10 AM   
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We don't really have the problem with people talking shit... but I can fully understand having to go demand payment from someone for your partner. Currently we are in a lawsuit with the shitty remnants of the Atl mafia (had no idea there'was' a fmafia here, but ok.) We had a contract with them to provide steel, and erect a building for them, but they quit paying him. The lawsuit is up to 250k.... What a mess.

If it's just online, or some idiot's opinion in a club, it's never bothered us before.


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RE: Can you stand back and watch your partner get slated? - 1/8/2009 8:29:27 AM   
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I agree with everything you say but will say that the above works two ways. When something negative is said to or about my partner its because they don't know him either because if they saw his expression, his fun, laughter and personality they may just get to like him but then you can't explain that to the boards.



Exactly, as I said above also, they just don;t know him.  But you do.  Isn't that all that matters?
Take a look at the boards.  How many people do you think you might meet in reality?  How many of these people/posters will have an actual impact on your life?  I always look at it in the sense that - those that have a worthwhile impact on our life, will be understanding enough to get to learn all his expressions and fun etc.  Those are the only people you need to have any concern over.  When it comes to people who you deal with in everyday life, same goes.
 
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If it was IC then possibly around the 200 mark but on here just a mere handful and that mere handful are very good rl friends.
What I love about CM is the anonymity.

I am going to stop moaning and get over it.... thanks for your replies all

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RE: Can you stand back and watch your partner get slated? - 1/8/2009 8:34:31 AM   
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Don't take this badly, but do you want your personal, intimate life, to become the Play for Today?




I asked a roundabout question of 'are you overly protective towards your partner'. I did not mention the width of my vagina or the depth of my anal passage! I gave nothing away about who I really am, or who said what to whom, so how does that equal personal and intimate?

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RE: Can you stand back and watch your partner get slated? - 1/8/2009 8:46:36 AM   
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It depends whats been said, if people are ignoring them it doesnt matter much


Its not that simple colourdin.... This caused such a ruck at one stage that it threatened our relationship. This was nasty vindictive stuff that was aimed to cause damage and very nearly did.



Its never just that simple, I have had horrific stuff said about me and it affected my relationship with many people. I got some great advice on here if people believed it they werent worth getting my knickers in a twist over, its totally 100% their loss.

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RE: Can you stand back and watch your partner get slated? - 1/8/2009 9:17:35 AM   
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Don't take this badly, but do you want your personal, intimate life, to become the Play for Today?




I asked a roundabout question of 'are you overly protective towards your partner'. I did not mention the width of my vagina or the depth of my anal passage! I gave nothing away about who I really am, or who said what to whom, so how does that equal personal and intimate?



I can understand what Kittin is saying to a degree. Your relationship is personal and intimate, as it should be. On here, and even outside of your relationship, should not be allowed to affect that "inner personal life".

Us on here, and people that are not in your close intimate circle, you cannot give us the power to affect your relationship. It is too potentially destructive.

Also, for me personally, I am very careful about what part of my relationships, the intimate ME and mine, I share on here or with anyone that I am not really close to. It's just a matter of protection.

Now, if I had a SO and they got upset about something that was posted online to them, or about them, and it upset them to the point that they could not deal with it in a positive manner......I would remove them from their computer until they put things back in perspective.

All of this on here, just pixels on a screen. Pixels created by people that know so very little about me and mine that it is rediculous to allow any of it to upset me. I just refuse to. I say what I want to say, read what I want to read, and the rest is just not important to me. Not at all.


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RE: Can you stand back and watch your partner get slated? - 1/8/2009 9:28:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

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ORIGINAL: SteveAndJaz

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Don't take this badly, but do you want your personal, intimate life, to become the Play for Today?




I asked a roundabout question of 'are you overly protective towards your partner'. I did not mention the width of my vagina or the depth of my anal passage! I gave nothing away about who I really am, or who said what to whom, so how does that equal personal and intimate?



I can understand what Kittin is saying to a degree. Your relationship is personal and intimate, as it should be. On here, and even outside of your relationship, should not be allowed to affect that "inner personal life".

Us on here, and people that are not in your close intimate circle, you cannot give us the power to affect your relationship. It is too potentially destructive.

Also, for me personally, I am very careful about what part of my relationships, the intimate ME and mine, I share on here or with anyone that I am not really close to. It's just a matter of protection.



I understand what your saying and ty for this good bit of advise. I will show this thread to Steve and if he wants then I will delete it.

I must say something here though and it goes back to what I said earlier about being almost anonymous here.
I have read forums where people have talked about real rape experiences, or parental abuse.  I really admire those people that dare to talk about such personal trauma. I never know what to say to them, how to comfort them or how to start to comprehend what they have been through and are often still going through. I believe the reason that many can open up on these forums is because they can if they wish, walk away from this site and never see any of us again.


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