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phoenix1heather -> RE: Palins excuses begin (1/9/2009 2:20:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: bluepanda


Jesus, these people. Always wanting it both ways. They want to run ignorant, unqualified nutcases for high-profile political offices, and then when the country starts laughing at what a lunatic freak the latest fruitbat is, the republicans start whining about how unfair it is that everyone's talking about the fucking idiot. You guys don't like people making fun of the clowns you run for office, stop selecting your candidates from the bargain bin at Clowns R' Us. Because as long as you keep trotting out these losers, and keeping them in the public eye, we're going to keep laughing.







What a terrible thing to say about the President elect.




lronitulstahp -> RE: Palins excuses begin (1/9/2009 3:05:24 AM)

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I think the Palin-pouters need to find a different excuse for her many shortcomings.

Shortcomings?

She's intelligent, articulate, and accomplished.  Things Dear Leader will never be.



Are you serious?  i can't even begin to address this statement.  Though i can honestly say my overwhelming feeling is pity, and not anger *deep breath*.

Because you're not what I would have you be, I blind myself to who, in truth, you are.
~Madeline L'Engle




corysub -> RE: Palins excuses begin (1/9/2009 3:50:35 AM)


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Should not those on the Republican side be doing more than rooting for the incoming Administration to fall on their face.Like finding some credible new blood to run in 2012...or will you guys just run out that same old tired bunch of losers(Hukabee,Guiliani,Romney and Palin)


Come on now..I have not heard any republican leader, starting with President Bush, "rooting for Obama to fail".  Whether Obama's politics and course for the country is one based on republican core beliefs or is the socialist idealism and "big brother knows what's best for you" failed liberal policies that got us where we are today is not the issue.  The issue on the table is saving what is a bad recession from being turned into a depression by stupid and wasteful public works projects and one giant barrel of pork.  We are all passengers on the same ship.  Why would any sane person pray that we hit an ice berg?  I would hope the bi-partisan spirit that Obama professes to find solutions no matter from what party, or what wing of a party,  is not blown away as is suggested by Pelosi changing the Rules of the House this week that seeks to eliminate and counter ideas from the minority...a party that represents 47% of the American taxpayers who voted in the last Presidential election. 

As far as the republican party and its future...it really depends on Pelosi and Reid... more than the naive man who is now "President Elect' and really thinks he is going to control Congress and their back room dealings when it comes to appropriations. The kick -back from an entrenched bureaucracy is also something he will be have to face as he goes into his learning curve and on the job training. More experienced executives  have tried and failed without the major problems Barack will face from day one. 

The Obama administration has not taken power yet and already difficulties are being seen.  His selection of Panetta to head the CIA, the Richardson debacle, the disgrace of the possibly soon to be  impeached democrat Governor of Illinois allegedly trying to sell Obama's seat in the Senate, and now Daschle who I thought we were finally rid of rising like phenix from the ashes to lead the destruction and total government control of our healthcare system for the benefit of 15% of Americans who do not have health insurance, not to mention legislation that will take away the right of workers to hold a secret ballot with respect to choosing to have a union or non-union shop.  The list of failed liberal policy proposals coming back to the table in a democrat controlled Congress that will be pushing through...or attempt to push through, as much as much as they can before the public catches on. I don't know about your Congressional representative, but I doubt my guy will be able to go through a trillion dollars worth of proposals with any sort of due diligence.

While there are individuals on extreme wings of both sides of the political spectrum whose vocabulary doesn't stretch beyond words and clauses like "ignorant", "worst in the history of the country" "criminal" , I don't think republicans want Obama to fail...neither do they want to see the country fail during this period of economic crisis and I would expect alternative ideas to be presented not just contrarian rhetoric as we have seen from the liberal wing of the democrat party over the past eight years. 




DarkSteven -> RE: Palins excuses begin (1/9/2009 5:05:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ArizonaSunSwitch


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ORIGINAL: ArticMaestro

You know Dark, I also thought she was too green to go for the VP.  It was a risk.  Maybe she will bounce back, maybe not.  She's not out yet though.


Yes, the only person of the 4 that had *actual* executive branch experience was "too green".

Palin's biggest flaw is she allowed herself to be associated with McCain.


Uh, the Executive Branch is associated with the office of the Presidency of the US.  The only people EVER running with experience there are former VPs and sitting Presidents running for reelection.

I think that your statement is intended to say "she is the only one of the four with any exprience running something (in this case, Alaska)."  I have heard that before and dispute it.  McCain retired from the Navy as Captain, which means he had control over a ship, which means a full crew and the capability to destroy a country or two.  Obama headed the Harvard Law Review, which involved overseeing dozens of prima donnas; as well as the most effective campaign in history.  And his maligned "community organizer" job included being the director of the Developing Communities Project for three years.

I'm too lazy to look up Biden's history.  Someone else can do it if they wish.




kittinSol -> RE: Palins excuses begin (1/9/2009 5:26:06 AM)

How about that Biden is a long-time member and chairman of the U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations? The guy is seriously well versed when it comes to international politics (something that Moose O'Lini, clearly, is not - but boy does she make a mean stew [8D]) .




thishereboi -> RE: Palins excuses begin (1/9/2009 5:43:17 AM)

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ORIGINAL: bluepanda

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

who??


She lost the election about 2 months ago, along with McCain. Funny that people are still talking about her though.


She's the one who wants to stay up front and center stage, or at least she  did until a few weeks ago when the latest rash of news stories about her and her trailer trash extended family broke out. She's kept a somewhat lower profile the last few weeks, but it was just last month that she was making public appearances all over the country, giving interviews about her possible candidacy for president in 2012. If she doesn't want the whole country making fun of her, she can just stay the hell home in Alaska and off of our TV screens.

Jesus, these people. Always wanting it both ways. They want to run ignorant, unqualified nutcases for high-profile political offices, and then when the country starts laughing at what a lunatic freak the latest fruitbat is, the republicans start whining about how unfair it is that everyone's talking about the fucking idiot. You guys don't like people making fun of the clowns you run for office, stop selecting your candidates from the bargain bin at Clowns R' Us. Because as long as you keep trotting out these losers, and keeping them in the public eye, we're going to keep laughing.



Well if she wants to stay in the public eye, then it is really sweet of you guys to help her out. You must really think she is something special.




thishereboi -> RE: Palins excuses begin (1/9/2009 5:49:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

And she can see Russia from her porch.[8|]

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Yup, at least that is what Tina claimed. Do you get all your facts from SNL or do you make up some of it yourself?

And even if she had said it, what difference does it make now? She lost, be happy and get over it. Stop obsessing about the women and tell us all the wonderful things the new admin is going to accomplish.




kittinSol -> RE: Palins excuses begin (1/9/2009 5:57:51 AM)

Yes, people should stop obsessing over Palin. She brazenly nudges her way through in front of the cameras, but we should chastily turn our eyes away and ignore the circus, because she lost the election, and it's unfair of us to hear her fishwife voice and shrill comments.

We should go against our modern desire for entertainment, and thusly, ignore the sore losers who constantly stomp their feet in despair at Obama's victory. 
Poor Sarah: nasty, evil, horrible us [sm=evil.gif] .





celticlord2112 -> RE: Palins excuses begin (1/9/2009 5:59:01 AM)

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The Democrats will be running things for the forseeable future.

If history is any guide, right up until 2010.  And with Democrats already lining up to embarrass and oppose Dear Leader's grand scheme to print and spend,  with Queen Nancy and her Senate shill Helpless Reid informing Dear Leader's folk to stay away from Democrat strategy soirees (they're more interested in emasculating the Presidency than in running the country), they won't be running things very effectively.




thishereboi -> RE: Palins excuses begin (1/9/2009 6:04:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Yes, people should stop obsessing over Palin. She brazenly nudges her way through in front of the cameras, but we should chastily turn our eyes away and ignore the circus, because she lost the election, and it's unfair of us to hear her fishwife voice and shrill comments.

We should go against our modern desire for entertainment, and thusly, ignore the sore losers who constantly stomp their feet in despair at Obama's victory. 
Poor Sarah: nasty, evil, horrible us [sm=evil.gif] .




Well I personally don't think she is worth the attention, but if you do then by all means go ahead and talk about it all day. Just seems kind of odd that she is still in the public eye so much. I can't think of any other vp pick that got that much attention after they lost the election.

As to our new dear leader....the majority of the people I hear trashing him today are democrats who feel he mislead them. I keep waiting to hear about all the wonderful things he is doing, but that is not what I am seeing. I think they should at least wait until he is sworn in before they start hating, but they don't seem to listen to me. Oh well, this to shall pass.




kittinSol -> RE: Palins excuses begin (1/9/2009 6:56:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi
Well I personally don't think she is worth the attention, but if you do then by all means go ahead and talk about it all day. Just seems kind of odd that she is still in the public eye so much. I can't think of any other vp pick that got that much attention after they lost the election.


1. You seem to talk about us talking about her a hell of a lot, for somebody who doesn't think she's worth the attention [;)] ;

2. It is Palin herself who ensures she remains in the public eye, with her efforts to become a permafixture on blogs and news bulletin. Trust me: had she chosen the route of discretion, I, for one, would have filed her away under the "Hilarious campaign blunders" earmark.




bluepanda -> RE: Palins excuses begin (1/9/2009 7:15:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

I actually feel sorry for her.  If she had a few more years of seasoning before being thrust out into the national stage, she might have learned more polish, learned the issues, and understood the importance of propriety.  She's now a national figure and I don't think she'll ever learn.



Sorry, but not me. If she'd made even the slightest effort to present herself as a  somewhat decent, likable human being, I might be moved somewhat, but she's been nothing but a whiny, lying, meanspirited bitch ever since she first walked on stage at the X in St. Paul. I see absolutely no reason to feel the least bit of sympathy for her. She's paying the piper, and I'm doing nothing but enjoying the show.




Owner59 -> RE: Palins excuses begin (1/9/2009 7:52:54 AM)

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: bluepanda

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

who??


She lost the election about 2 months ago, along with McCain. Funny that people are still talking about her though.


She's the one who wants to stay up front and center stage, or at least she  did until a few weeks ago when the latest rash of news stories about her and her trailer trash extended family broke out. She's kept a somewhat lower profile the last few weeks, but it was just last month that she was making public appearances all over the country, giving interviews about her possible candidacy for president in 2012. If she doesn't want the whole country making fun of her, she can just stay the hell home in Alaska and off of our TV screens.

Jesus, these people. Always wanting it both ways. They want to run ignorant, unqualified nutcases for high-profile political offices, and then when the country starts laughing at what a lunatic freak the latest fruitbat is, the republicans start whining about how unfair it is that everyone's talking about the fucking idiot. You guys don't like people making fun of the clowns you run for office, stop selecting your candidates from the bargain bin at Clowns R' Us. Because as long as you keep trotting out these losers, and keeping them in the public eye, we're going to keep laughing.



Well if she wants to stay in the public eye, then it is really sweet of you guys to help her out. You must really think she is something special.


Oh yes we sure do....[:D]



In fact,most of "us" want her to be your party leader.And your next prez candidate.

I pray for it. She`s one of those effortless types,who does all our work for us.Truly a pleasure of operate with.The gift that keeps on giving.

I`m not sure why she`s doing interviews,though.But hey,I won`t turn down a republo-train-wreak, ever.She`s just as obnoxious and ridiculous as before.God bless her.

What exactly is her purposes for these interviews?The 5 or 10 thousand she gets per interview?A possible future run?She`s a glutton for punishment so she keeps coming back?An affair w/ the left wing conspirwusy?

Who knows.

Thanks for some more laughs,Sarah.Don`t change,don`t 'evah' change......




corysub -> RE: Palins excuses begin (1/9/2009 7:57:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: lronitulstahp

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unfortunately unably not assisted by her running mate...an old nice guy that didn't have a chance in hell....Sarah's back in Alaska and still the jealousy, the fear, the wrath of the neo-libs who just don't understand what a real woman is in the 21st century.
Actually, i think the old nice guy had quite a chance, until he named her as running mate.


I  think the polls prior to the Palin nomination showed that McCain campaign was really lacking in strong core support that rallied to him big time AFTER Sarah was nominated.  You may recall she brought down the house during the convention and had crowds so lacking for McCain everywhere she went on the campaign trail. Palin scared the hell out of the liberal media and they had to destroy her...she is conservative, pro life, and damn attractive, and adored by the republican core....a real danger to not only libs but dusty old republican pols that deserted sound, small-government principles and raped the public treasury almost as good as the democrat party.
It wasn't Palin being a negative as much as the economy and stock market going into a tailspin than elected Obama...along with the well deserved tsunami against most republicans running for office

Actually, Joe Biden probably did more to flatten the upward trajectory of the Obama campaign than Palin ever did on her ticket with his idiotic comments.  It's going to be fun hanging on his every word over the next four years.   However, to be fair I will say that Biden had everything to do with Obama raking in those 3 Electoral College votes from Delaware that helped put the team over the top!  Thanks Joe...  I would love to be a fly on the wall when Barack, Joe and Hillary discuss the administrations foreign policy program and who is their going to be the spokesmMAN or spokesWOMAN detailed for that function. Sounds to me like a job usually done by the Secretary of State, until now....What's with this trip Biden is taking to Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan....looks like an end-run around the soon to be Secretary of State by the man no longer going to be Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committe...dontcha think?? 




kittinSol -> RE: Palins excuses begin (1/9/2009 8:02:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: corysub
Palin scared the hell out of the liberal media and they had to destroy her...she is conservative, pro life, and damn attractive, and adored by the republican core....a real danger to not only libs but dusty old republican pols that deserted sound, small-government principles and raped the public treasury almost as good as the democrat party.


Are you kidding? If she was such a danger, she wouldn't have imploded as loudly as she did [:D] . Danger, my arse rofl!

And the poncy wimpy pinko weak-ass libewal media wouldn't have been able to make a dent in her iron-like exterior (turned out she was merely aluminium plated).

Nah... Palin's a good looking woman with a crazy political streak. And it's the crazyness that put people off: perhaps it hurts your feelings, because you obviously like her a lot (we all have our vices), but I agree that facts can be painful at times. 




Archer -> RE: Palins excuses begin (1/9/2009 8:04:04 AM)

Funny how the liberal platform of class not meaning better than falls instantly into the class is important when it suits their cause.

Hillbilly slurs flinging wildly while if anyone slured a protected class they would be on the phone to the ACLU in about .00000000000001 seconds.




kittinSol -> RE: Palins excuses begin (1/9/2009 8:06:22 AM)

Her social class is irrelevant. It's her complete lack of intellectual class that's laughable.




Archer -> RE: Palins excuses begin (1/9/2009 8:14:22 AM)

dodge bob and weave. Bottom line is slurs about her background ie hillbilly were cast by folks who preach tolerance for the same level of intellectual class when it's inner city slum residents. If the tables had been turned you'd be calling for someone's head kittinsol.






kittinSol -> RE: Palins excuses begin (1/9/2009 8:19:09 AM)

You'd be surprised, actually, Archer: my partisanship does have limits, and I actually don't like hearing socially disparaging comments about people... then I remember the disgusting rumour mongering and ugly insinuations made by Palin (against McCain's advice, by the sound of things) that Obama was not 'a true American' and 'a terrorist sympathiser', and my sympathy for her evaporates. She dived in the pool of shit. Let her drown in it.




bluepanda -> RE: Palins excuses begin (1/9/2009 8:26:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Archer

dodge bob and weave. Bottom line is slurs about her background ie hillbilly were cast by folks who preach tolerance for the same level of intellectual class when it's inner city slum residents.


Not necessarily. Since I'm the one who was calling her an ignorant hillbilly, I'm probably in the best position to tell you that were we talking about, say, Al Sharpton for example, I'd be even more scathing and derogatory.




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