FullfigRIMAAM1
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You made it sound like she is coercing them into giving her somethig of monetary value, and suggesting they aren't there of their own choosing, or because they care for/adore her, but because there are so few fem dommes to choose from.
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I assume by responsibilities you mean either career-related responsibilities or miscellaneous life responsibilities such as taking care of tasks at home.
Almost everybody has career responsibilities and other life responsibilities yet they find time for whatever relationship, recreation, or social outlets they have. Thus, the argument that a submissive must relieve a domme of her responsibilities so that she may have time to play does not resonate with me. After all, the submissive also has responsibilities and is still making time for play She said they serve her financially (I believe). She didn't say I only make time for them because they serve me financially. That is why I thought your response was something of an attempt at getting an explanation about her consensual relationship with her slaves, where none should be necessary. I didn't take it as a general stamtement, because you were specifically replying to her. * (trying no to mention names anymore).*
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Humans and animals attract attention from one another in many ways; yes money and power is one way I do not see this point to apply to our discussion. Do you really think tribute is defining attraction? If some guy writes you and offers you tribute, will he suddently be attractive to you?Ok, I'll explain how it applies... Having money is a sign of power, so is giving up money a relinquishing of said power. Why do you think some men (who may or may not be so hot) work hard, sell drugs, or steal from corporations to aquire lots of cash, and buy flashy cars? It is a sign of power, and a way to attract mates. No, money does not make the man for me.
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First of all, there are more women in the world than men. That there may be more alleged male submissives than women, is highly disputable in my opinion. I do not follow your point here since these two statements suggest opposing ideasHow are they opposing ideas? I'm saying there are probably more women/female dominants without submissive men, because there are not enough submissive men, as opposed to the alleged fem dom/male sub ratio frequently touted.
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It is not an essential part of the mating game because many interactions--especially if one is involved in offline communities--occur without tribute. The world outside Fm, even online, operates without tribute I didn't say it was essential or the only way. I did say it is one way, and apparently it works for those people who seek and get it, at least for that moment.
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Some men do indeed notice the intricacies and subtle details of what a woman is wearing. But enough about gay men ;-)
In my opinion, the effort women put in their appearance is more for themselves and other women, and then men. Words of wisdom I picked up from a woman ;-) Not me. I'm not trying to attract other women as mates, though I like them as human beings, and friends. When I clean up and do the not average look, it's to be noticed, preferably by the men I notice.
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You're not on the other side of the kneel, so you may not always know why people arrive at their destinations emotionally or intellectually. A LOT of men who profess.. Are you saying tribute is necessary because many men are insincere? No, never said tributes were necessary. I am saying that some women who have been mislead often, have decided they are going to take advantage to even the score. I don't endorse or subscribe to this at this point in my life, but won't say I've never mistreated someone due to previously undiscarded baggage.
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Similarly, that you are not on the other side of the keel might not let you see firsthand what that side sees.
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think that D/s or M/s relationships are inherently unfair
In my opinion, the word unequal carries less attachments. So I see that D/s relationships can be unequal. Assuming psychologically healthy participants, whether the inequality is fair or not is best defined by those involved.
Cheers,
Sea Ok, agreed. M
Eddited to try and fix the quotes to no avail. 
< Message edited by FullfigRIMAAM1 -- 1/20/2009 12:21:02 AM >
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