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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 6:07:31 AM

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The cock =the pathway to the mind

And vice versa.

hardbody,

Can you expand on that thought?

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 6:11:09 AM

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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968

Ok..now wait. You're telling me that a woman can get what she wants from a guy just by sucking his cock????? Get out of town.

Aileen,

Sometimes the truth is self evident and must be looked squarely in the eye; but please note the stroking aspect!

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 6:13:49 AM

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I believe that feeding the ego is far more effective than stroking the cock.

marie2,

Grins, I think the old saw of Different strokes for different folks works here!

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 6:15:59 AM

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After reading rednicky's thread and several of the reply/comments; it brought to mind a convo I had about a year ago with a submissive that made the final jump froma switch to pure submissive.

The conversation went along the line of why did she decide on sub only and with her usual wit and candor, she replied she had learned that she could much better retrieve what she wanted from the relationship by just taking care of her dominant's cock as a means to get into his minset and amplify or change it.

Be it oral or just a stroking she could manipulate him even during one of his "off" moods.

In your experience as eithera "D" or an "s" care to comment on the concept?

CP

CP.. it amuses me no end that such a thing is pondered as though it is new information. Women have known this for centuries. Think about it - it functions very much as a pop-up handle. 'Men as pull-toys' is not a new concept ;)

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 6:17:58 AM

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I would say that is true CP..she has you and many men figured out.we are all different but i know my Mistress will stroke my mind on a daily basis.how sexy is that?

chezzy,

You appeared to be replying to me; so i will reply. She was not my sub, it was just an academic convo with a friend.

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 6:19:13 AM

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I believe that feeding the ego is far more effective than stroking the cock.

marie2,

Grins, I think the old saw of Different strokes for different folks works here!

CP

Cute pun.

But I disagree. If that were all it took (cock stroking) to keep a man happy, and get a woman's needs met, all relationships that involved blow jobs, would be eternally satisfying to each partner, and there would be no break-ups.

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 6:21:05 AM

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ORIGINAL: Focus50

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After reading rednicky's thread and several of the reply/comments; it brought to mind a convo I had about a year ago with a submissive that made the final jump froma switch to pure submissive.

The conversation went along the line of why did she decide on sub only and with her usual wit and candor, she replied she had learned that she could much better retrieve what she wanted from the relationship by just taking care of her dominant's cock as a means to get into his minset and amplify or change it.

Be it oral or just a stroking she could manipulate him even during one of his "off" moods.

In your experience as eithera "D" or an "s" care to comment on the concept?

If you wanna break it down to basics then, yeah, keeping my dick "happy" is probably one of the girl's primary functions. Within specific guidelines, she can go there almost anytime but I totally disagree with your concept (or context?) of "manipulate" here. There's no chance I'm gonna say 'yes' to something I might otherwise say 'no' to just because she's massaging my dick with her tonsils.... No way I'm that easy or obvious a pushover!

Focus.

Focus,

I agree with your personal view, but it is a question of generalities.

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 6:23:46 AM

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Ok..now wait. You're telling me that a woman can get what she wants from a guy just by sucking his cock????? Get out of town.

Aileen,

Sometimes the truth is self evident and must be looked squarely in the eye; but please note the stroking aspect!

CP

It's not the truth I like to look squarely in the eye....

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 6:34:57 AM

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the female has the power of the pussy and as far as im concerned that is more powerfull then the cock

if she says no the cock has no where to go except see a visit from rosie palm

while my cock has strong desires i think lately my ass leads to my mind ...once she slides in fisting me and strapon play the cock is second fiddle

my mistress is multi talented ..most times the cock is not left out

love a lady in control ...mal

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 7:04:32 AM

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

I think she was being hyperbolistic as a form of humor, but there is certainly some fair bit of truth to that.

The thing is, slaves manipulate all the time, it's a good thing. The issue is whether they are manipulating in line with the owners standards.

Not unusually, I disagree with LA. She has made a general statement which without qualification, includes every male and thus leads to the impression that she has taken orally every human male of legal age...I think not!.. I will agree that human males being biologically what they are, and working on the limited number of male humans I have encountered over the past six decades, I believe that for the youthful period from teens to possibly mid years (will vary with individuals) they can be lead or manipulated a goodly amount of the time. It would be further folly to believe every male during his prime can be manipulated or lead by his cock all the time. I've seen women try this and have it tried on me too. Some of these unfortunate women are no longer alive due to their arrogance and folly..

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 7:20:47 AM

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ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

and here i thought it was the dominant's way of manipulating the relationship by using his 2nd brain (the cock) ..since most of thinking is done with that instead of the grey matter inside their head.

lilgirl,

that sounds so sexist!!!!! laughs!

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 7:20:58 AM

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What would be sad to me and probably lead to the opposite of anything good coming out of it would be if a female felt that she had to do those things in order to get what she wanted. in the first place. If our relationship was about manipulating and stroking of ego's, I'd think we didn't have much of one to begin with.

littlwonder made a good comment on it. If your doing what your suppose to be doing, I'd have little issue with giving a person what they needed as long as it didn't go against what I thought was best. No amount of sucking or sucking up to would make a difference.

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 7:25:00 AM

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I don't see getting what I need/want from the relationship as manipulation - he asks me all the time to be sure that I'm content and happy with him. He wants me to have my needs met and most of my desires fulfilled. No stroking needed for that whatsoever ... but I'm more than happy to oblige!

mc1234

aahhhhhhh! A relationship that exists on a higher plane! thanks for your thoughts.

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 7:29:50 AM

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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968

Ok..now wait. You're telling me that a woman can get what she wants from a guy just by sucking his cock????? Get out of town.

Well, it's a start. We mens are simple creatures.

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 7:29:51 AM

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ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

After reading rednicky's thread and several of the reply/comments; it brought to mind a convo I had about a year ago with a submissive that made the final jump froma switch to pure submissive.

The conversation went along the line of why did she decide on sub only and with her usual wit and candor, she replied she had learned that she could much better retrieve what she wanted from the relationship by just taking care of her dominant's cock as a means to get into his minset and amplify or change it.

Be it oral or just a stroking she could manipulate him even during one of his "off" moods.

In your experience as eithera "D" or an "s" care to comment on the concept?

CP

CP.. it amuses me no end that such a thing is pondered as though it is new information. Women have known this for centuries. Think about it - it functions very much as a pop-up handle. 'Men as pull-toys' is not a new concept ;)

MsF,

And yet fems continue to allow themselves to be directed from their pultoy!!

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 7:33:07 AM

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ORIGINAL: marie2

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ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

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I believe that feeding the ego is far more effective than stroking the cock.

marie2,

Grins, I think the old saw of Different strokes for different folks works here!

CP

Cute pun.

But I disagree. If that were all it took (cock stroking) to keep a man happy, and get a woman's needs met, all relationships that involved blow jobs, would be eternally satisfying to each partner, and there would be no break-ups.

marie2,

but that is the point, if the "s" wants a breakup she just stops paying attention to Mr. Johnson

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 7:35:38 AM

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

From the D perspective, I believe there can be some truth in it, at least for some. There are a couple of threads on the Mistress board just now that speak to the very concept. That female Domination is based on male submission which is completely tied up in sexuality. In other words, the female is Dominating only because the male is getting his rocks off. It's not My way of Domination, but obviously, it is the way for others.

That's your way of explaining of what is said.
It's One of the ways I use.

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 8:53:59 AM

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The conversation went along the line of why did she decide on sub only and with her usual wit and candor, she replied she had learned that she could much better retrieve what she wanted from the relationship by just taking care of her dominant's cock as a means to get into his minset and amplify or change it.

Be it oral or just a stroking she could manipulate him even during one of his "off" moods.

And there is a perfect example of why a "dominant" male should have control of his man part. In many examples I've seen throughout life, the cock is the anti-mind for men (laughing). It's quite a challenge for us males; weakness to sexual influence has been bred into our very genes.

I would point out, however, that it's not ultimately productive for the female "in control" at the moment. You go after a man who is lead around by his sex drive and (through your manipulations) encourage him to be even more so? Don't feel too bad when he jumps to consume the next passing object of interest. I may be in the minority with this opinion, but I believe authentically submissive women respect men who aren't slaves to their sex drives. There is no nobility in a man who is such a carnal wimp.

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 9:06:19 AM

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Logic inevitably leads in such circles, such is asceticism.

I'm more inclined to think in terms of the role of Oxytocin and stimulation of the vagus nerve.

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 9:09:03 AM

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i.e., I'm down with anybody into stimulating my vagus nerve - a bird in the hand...

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