Amaros
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Logic inevitably leads in such circles, such is asceticism.
I would say asceticism is not the product of logic, but severe fanaticism.
Being in control of yourself does not mean you should mechanically abstain from worldly indulgences. It in fact leads to quite the opposite; you are disciplined enough to enjoy external pleasures without becoming a slave to them.
Your previous post seemed to imply the opposite - in fact I would surmise that the notion of sexual stimulation leading to uncontrolled acting out on sexual impulses is largely a product of sterile religious logic: i.e., people who value self restraint above all else, and are not only driven to struggle to control their own natures, but to struggle to control the natures of others.
All this repression and emphasis on external control (fear of punishment) leads to a situation where one does not test ones nature, and is forced to develop internal controls - remove the external controls, and these people can go nuts.
Read Michalet's Satanism and Witchcraft, the chapter on Loudan, or rent Ken Russel's The Devils - the result of extreme application of external controls can result in hysteria and what amounts to almost a complete psychotic break of psycho-sexual hallucination.
Moderation, yes, but repression is often more "dangerous" than debauchery.
There was an article on sexual tourism, where when these people get into countries where there are fewer social controls, they have difficulty setting their own limits. In countries like Japan, where they are under very strict social controls, they overlook sexual excesses which act as a relief valve, and are so polite, that they simply pretend not notice things that in Western civilization, would be plastered all over the front pages with shock and horror, can and do, launch entire political movements - this country once spent more than year obsessing over Bill Clinton getting a blow job, and while the mortgage meltdown was brewing, the media was focused almost single mindedly on whether Brittany Spears was wearing any panties today or not.
War is another example, more complex because the controls against violence, both internal and external are much deeper and stronger then the controls ever sexual behavior - we normally repress our killer instincts, this is natural, we could get hurt if we went around picking fights all the time, that kill or be killed stuff is mostly bullshit, nobody is that much of a badass, physical conflict implies the distinct possibility of defeat as well as victory, and the law of averages states that sooner or later you're gonna get your ass whipped - this is true of all species when it comes to intragroup aggression, it's why we have ritualistic behaviors of submission, because it mediates violent conflict and prevents it from reaching lethal levels - someone cries uncle or taps out and it's over.
But in war, we train people to kill, isolate them, brainwash them, do everything in our power to turn them into killers, and still, most would prefer not to kill and generally when in the situation, kill because some bastard is trying to kill them and they'd rather kill than die, pure self defense - but even after the enemy has surrendered/submitted, and most are content to go home and resume their relatively more peacable ways, there are always some who cannot stop, once they start.
Fortunately, this is much more abnormal than uncontrolled sexualityand we have fewer controls, either internal or external about sex than we do about violence. Still, even with sex, most people have some limits, some internal controls, and for the most part, the consequences when they don't might not be pretty, but it isn't typically lethal.
The exception to this might be when information about prophylactic measures is supressed, people aren't going to stop fucking, but unwanted pregnancy and STD's are going to go up - we have evolved to pretty much eat, sleep and fuck, everything else we do, including fighting, is done to that end, that's life.
We pay attention to both things, because they are two things that concern us a great deal: reproduction and violence, so these things tend to pre-empt any other stimulus when we are exposed to them, it's called primacy effect - which creates a sort of false correlation effect, but they aren't necessarily deeply linked otherwise, other thanthe vasopressin thing, i.e., "sex and violence" - it's more like "sex and food", Oxytocin is released by both, and you have to eat to maintain your reproductive potential, an ongoing thing, although males also express more Vasopressin, which makes us jealous of other men - protecting our genetic investment.
So, if your SO's devotion to giving you blow jobs causes you stray, you might just fuck up your good thing, and that's enough for most people to develop a little self restraint, no?
Lol, how's that for a quick breakdown of the mind/cock connection?
< Message edited by Amaros -- 1/20/2009 11:20:25 AM >
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. Regardless of how good I am with my mouth, Sir is going to make choices based on a level headed approach. I love His level head.
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