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RE: Obama pulls a Bush (Flubbed line) - 1/30/2009 3:05:36 PM   
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Of course it's ridiculous domiguy, that's what makes it fun. the line was a low hanging curve at half speed of course I gotta swing at it. LOL

President Obama said from the oval orchid office today "No heat for you, you must conserve energy."



ROFLMAO!
the oval orchid office !
your fucken killing me here!


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RE: Obama pulls a Bush (Flubbed line) - 1/30/2009 3:09:17 PM   
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I thought the quote was and is a funny flub a way that one can take the verbal words. Adding in the rest of the conjecture about Obama seeing profit as evil was spin for the same reason folks spun Bush's flubs beyond reason into huge balls of venom. Be cause it's fun to poke at the verbal misques of a president.




No, what you are trying to do is turn an ambiguous statement into what you call a "flub".

There are literally dozens of books out detailing "Bushisms".  The nonsense our former (God I love saying that) President sputtered out constantly.

In fact, one of the books uses a quote by him as its title. 

While promoting his "no child left behind" program and complaining of the poor state of American education, our beloved Dubya asked a crowd, "is our children learning?".

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RE: Obama pulls a Bush (Flubbed line) - 1/30/2009 3:09:24 PM   
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I dont care who is president, I do not tolerate lies.
a lie is a lie is a lie.
and the sheeple are OK with it.
ROFLMAO!




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There is no such thing as Global warming,
its Re warming and it has happend in the past and will cool again and Re heat .
FOLLOW the money and you will see that every one that claims that "global warming" is proven all want MORE money to study it.
its a scham and all about money.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2001/12/1218_earthbelch.html

Ours is NOT the only planet heating up .
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/23/proof-of-global-warming/

so again its a SCAM!


Obviously you have a problem with the truth when it is in contrast to  your political beliefs.

The national geographic article does not conflict with the theory of global warming...in fact it clearly states that there was an identifiable reason "a methane bubble" that caused the temp to rise.  There is no "huge methane bubble" that is responsible for the warming trend of today.

And the site "hotair"...I don't think anyone would consider it a reliable site for someone that wants to portray himself as someone that "does not tolerate lies."

It appears that you have no problem whatsoever in perpetuating them...
go with God.


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RE: Obama pulls a Bush (Flubbed line) - 1/30/2009 3:14:51 PM   
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I dont care who is president, I do not tolerate lies.
a lie is a lie is a lie.
and the sheeple are OK with it.
ROFLMAO!




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ORIGINAL: Coldwarrior57

There is no such thing as Global warming,
its Re warming and it has happend in the past and will cool again and Re heat .
FOLLOW the money and you will see that every one that claims that "global warming" is proven all want MORE money to study it.
its a scham and all about money.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2001/12/1218_earthbelch.html

Ours is NOT the only planet heating up .
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/23/proof-of-global-warming/

so again its a SCAM!


Obviously you have a problem with the truth when it is in contrast to  your political beliefs.

The national geographic article does not conflict with the theory of global warming...in fact it clearly states that there was an identifiable reason "a methane bubble" that caused the temp to rise.  There is no "huge methane bubble" that is responsible for the warming trend of today.

And the site "hotair"...I don't think anyone would consider it a reliable site for someone that wants to portray himself as someone that "does not tolerate lies."

It appears that you have no problem whatsoever in perpetuating them...
go with God.


You are off topic but for the sake of education, have you ever heard of methane hydrate?
if not you better read , because its there.
http://healthandenergy.com/methane_hydrate.htm
https://www.llnl.gov/str/Durham.html


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RE: Obama pulls a Bush (Flubbed line) - 1/30/2009 3:16:34 PM   
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RE: Obama pulls a Bush (Flubbed line) - 1/30/2009 3:26:20 PM   
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doh.


and I just ran into this one!
I didnt know!
http://fossil.energy.gov/programs/oilgas/hydrates/
thanks for getting me to read more.
the stuff we just dont know.

In recent field tests, researchers have demonstrated the capability to predict the location and concentration of methane hydrate deposits using reprocessed conventional 3-D seismic data, and new techniques, including multi-component seismic, are being tested.  Modeling of small-volume production tests in the U.S. and Canadian Arctic suggest that commercial production is possible using depressurization and thermal stimulation from conventional wellbores. Large-scale production tests are planned in the Canadian Arctic in the winter of 2008 and in the U.S. Arctic in the following year. 














Demonstration of production from offshore deposits will lag behind Arctic studies by three to five years, because marine deposits are less well documented, and marine sampling and well tests are significantly more expensive.


winter 2008 ?
hmm I wonder what the results were?


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RE: Obama pulls a Bush (Flubbed line) - 1/30/2009 3:33:01 PM   
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maybe we should not have shut out Ron Paul. 




hint hint.

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RE: Obama pulls a Bush (Flubbed line) - 1/30/2009 4:16:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		When we can't pick on our elected officials, including BO, then we will have lost what it means to be American.

It is our ability disagree and discuss that makes us unique.  As had been said so many times in so many ways: "I may disagree with you, but I'll defend your right to be disagreeable."

Once the PC (politically correct) phenomenon hit the shores, it has been a steady whittling away of that very principal.    I want to KNOW what you truly think, even if I think you are an ass for what your believe.   (That way I know who to shoot first .. ba da dum! <J/K!)





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RE: Obama pulls a Bush (Flubbed line) - 1/30/2009 4:34:44 PM   
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Just think.   that uppidy Obama is in the back room counting his stack of gold and silver that his $480k+ salary- to stop the brain drain

hint hint.



I really hope you're joking there, Hunky .


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RE: Obama pulls a Bush (Flubbed line) - 1/30/2009 4:50:58 PM   
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Just think.   that uppidy Obama is in the back room counting his stack of gold and silver that his $480k+ salary- to stop the brain drain

hint hint.



I really hope you're joking there, Hunky .



The very people that complain, don't bother to vote.  They never write congress- and all they do is know how to complain, while offering no solutions.

the prez salary was increased in 2000.  from 200ish to close to 500k.  it was done to keep judges or some govt people that were leaving.

IMO it is too soon to Slam Obama.  Give the guy a chance.   The GOP could have earned my vote...all they had to do was to NOT spend my money per the big bail out.

but yeah- the whiners don't even bother to vote.



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RE: Obama pulls a Bush (Flubbed line) - 1/30/2009 6:35:54 PM   
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Now is not the time for profit?????

“There will be time for them to make profits, and there will be time for them to get bonuses. Now is not that time.”

Not what one would expect from the great speaker Obama.

Yes it's a flubed line spoken without benefit of the teleprompter feed. At least I sure as hell hope it was.




He was referring to the bonuses.

Looks like nothing`s changed in the mis-lead the public effort.

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RE: Obama pulls a Bush (Flubbed line) - 1/30/2009 7:09:25 PM   
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Wait, wait, wait -

you really believe that telling people corporate greed (which is what many of the corporations have been doing) is wrong is socialism? You really believe that saying that making record breaking profits by slashing jobs and mismanaging money (which is how many corporations have made those profits) is socialism?

Check your dictionary again. In the great words of Inigo Montoya, "I do not think that word means what you think it means."

Socialism is one of those words, like "communism" and "help" and "mommy" that neocons blurt out when they're skeered. It doesn't really mean anything. (raining girl, paraphrased)

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RE: Obama pulls a Bush (Flubbed line) - 1/30/2009 9:23:38 PM   
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The double standard at work!
So when W flubbed a line ( or 156 kabillion) he is an idiot/moron/nincompoop/chimp,but when "O" does it, no problem. When W tried to go out a locked door he was a idiot/moron/nincompoop/chimp, but when "O" does it , its not a problem.



I'm sorry if you cannot see the difference between Obama's oratory skill and those of Bush then there is actually little further to discuss.

However, there is truth that the hiring of William Lynn is in contrast to what he said he would do.

As far as William Corr goes, yeah he  lobbied to keep tobacco away from kids....This is not exactly the type of lobbyist that we have in mind when we think what is going wrong in Washington. Nonetheless, Corr said he would recuse himself if his job touched on tobacco issues.  Will he? Who knows.

It is funny to watch Republicans now get all huffy and puffy about Obama.  face it, it took a perfect storm to get a black guy into the white house.  If you want to blame anybody just look at your own party and the absolute failures that it has persued over the last two terms.


You are absolutely right...to a point.  It took a perfect storm to get Obama into the White House.  Race was only an issue with democrats. The man has unquestioned oratorical skills, has trained himself well and can deciphper the psychological weaknesses of an adversary better than anyone I have seen.  He would have been a great salesmen in any industry.  It's impressive the way he is "bitch slapping" the republicans in Congress, and they don't even know it!!  It's laughable.  A few republican senators will probably vote passage of the stimulus Bill (really a Bill to begin Obamas social change planned for America).  They will vote aye because Mr. Reid has made sure to put a generous piece of pork for their States in the Senate version of the Bill.  

Liberals don't really have much of an arguement and that is the reason for the personal attacks on people like George Bush....Over my entire lifetime everyone of the six republican Presidents were labeled idiots, stupid, bumbling fools, (remember Chevy Chase and his Ford impression)..and on and on with the personal insults. It's not a language that should concern anyone anymore than the first time your sweet little five year old comes out with the word "fuck" for the first time.  Just chuckle and don't make an issue out of it...there are more important things for adults to be concerned about these days.

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RE: Obama pulls a Bush (Flubbed line) - 1/30/2009 9:34:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Still more folks who want to ignore the first half of the sentence/ statement. Why was the statement or fragment about there being a time for profit included at all if it wasn't germane to the thought?  You can't just wish it away.

Now from the World Socialist Web Site, not exactly an anti Obama partisan hack source. (Bold mine)
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/jan2009/obam-j31.shtml

"There will be time for them to make profits, and there will be time for them to get bonuses," Obama said. "Now is not that time."

Look even they have the comma as well as the word "AND" making this a compound sentence, not out of context.

So nice to have a source available that is not impeachable as a neocon hack, LOL

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RE: Obama pulls a Bush (Flubbed line) - 1/30/2009 9:38:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		Obama has been given a chance. He was given a chance when he was in senate and that was not an important enough job for him to finish before trying for the bigger fish.

Now we have a man in office who has forced those who do not believe in abortion to pay for it. Your tax dollars no matter what you believe will be funding it.

His rebuke of money makes him a hypocrit. He has made lots of money and yet he does not believe in fortunes. Then why not volunteer to be president, give his wages to charity or building up the economy while in office.

Then I might see him in a little better light than what I do now.

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RE: Obama pulls a Bush (Flubbed line) - 1/30/2009 9:44:44 PM   
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RE: Obama pulls a Bush (Flubbed line) - 1/30/2009 9:51:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Stipulating that is was a 'flub'; excusable for this President in an amount equal to it not being tolerated if said by the Ex-President. Those type comments disclose much about the posters.

However, even if the 'flub' was out of context and solely about bonuses; why should he complain about something he must want since he's authorized them as part of the Bush/Obama economic stimulus package? Or, didn't he read any of the financial statement notes for the companies he's bailing out?

So the question to consider is, does he know as much about business employee/executive contracts as President Bush; is he lying; or is he trying to make 'points'? It has to be one of those answers.

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RE: Obama pulls a Bush (Flubbed line) - 1/31/2009 12:10:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		I saw the tape.There was a pause between the sentence ,"There will be time for  them to make profits". and "And,there will be time for them to get bonuses,now is not the time."

He was referring to the day`s news, that some Wall Street a-holes payed themselves huge bonuses last year at the same time we were giving them billions in bail-out $.

That news, and everyone`s(accept cons) outrage is what promoted Obama to speak.That was the subject of the news conference.

Any spin ,creative punctuation  or otherwise, is just bullshit on the face of it.

The pause was clearly a ~period~.

If someone can prove that a sentence can`t start with the word "and",knock yourself out.

Perhaps this was a way of diverting attention from Bonus-Gate and the fact that 100% of republicans just voted against the stimulus bill.Yes?

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Just look at the ranters on this thread,screaming about this that and the other thing.And anything.

And ,all this fuss over their mis-representation/biased interpretation.It`s like they want to fight,want to pick,want to play politics with our financial futures.

Guys,...Obama`s gonna have to do some really bad fuck ups,before he even comes close to the retard.Lot`s and lots.

This rant a minute over nothings in the very 1st days looks like yelling at the ocean.

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RE: Obama pulls a Bush (Flubbed line) - 1/31/2009 12:11:56 AM   
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RE: Obama pulls a Bush (Flubbed line) - 1/31/2009 2:34:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		My interpretation of a a flubbed line is mispronouncing a common word or phrase.  This was not a flub.  Did he mention when Mother Government would allow profits to be earned and performance based bonuses to be paid? 

Same shit, different douche. 

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