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AAkasha -> RE: Buy me gifts. Spoil me. You don't deserve me! (2/3/2009 8:31:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

I am about to put a shopping list on my profile.

All those guys that email me, instead of me just telling them........."aaaahhhhhhh, read the profile dude. Lesbian!"

I can direct them to my list![:D]

(if I only knew how to get the items on the list to my house, via their credit card, without them knowing where it was going.........hmmmmm)

Hey yeah, seriously ladies, how does that work? I am honestly curious.

If Joe Smith in Texas want to buy Dominant Liz Taylor, a new diamond ring. How does Liz get Joe's ring onto her finger without divulging personal info? I am curious about the logistics.



It's not just about asking for gifts, no.   As an example, being in a cuckold relationship isn't as easy/fun as just having a sub and being able to have extra boyfriends on your own terms completely who you never even mention to your sub cuckold; there's a desire, expectation and NEED for the sub to be used/humiliated in a certain way as a function of that relationship.  That's why I think to some women the "idea" that "subs send you gifts" sounds fine and grand and ladies think "oh, who wouldn't want that? it sounds so easy!"   It's not - and it's one of a variety of reasons it holds no interest to me. I'd rather by my own gifts with my hard earned money, because it's less emotionally "expensive" and time consuming at the end of the day.

I'm talking very specifically about addressing the specific fetish of "financial humiliation" - that is, when a man enjoys buying "gifts" for a woman who humiliates him for it - the Princess, bitch goddess, verbal humiliation style.  As I mentioned in this thread, it's not just about having a wish list and guys will proactively use it and send a sweet gift. It's about a woman being very specific, commanding, humiliating about her demands for VERY specific gifts and then in a very "hands on" way, pushing the man through the process.  Ladies, I put it to you this way.  Is it worth 2 hours of your time to "encourage" a sub to buy you a $50 pair of shoes, knowing that there is a 75% chance he will flake?  It kind of comes down to that.  If you play the numbers game, you may have more luck.  To me, the kind of mindset, the type of writing and/or phone calls, that level of intense humiliation is very emotionally taxing *on me*, I can do it, but I either have to be in a very specific mindframe OR have a really good connection with the guy in a way that pushes my buttons to treat him that way (in those cases, let's be honest, I'm way more into what it's doing to him than the pair of shoes - I am in it for MY femdom rush at that point). So if it's anonymous, I find myself totally emotionally taxed about 10 minutes into any kind of process to fulfill the needs of a "shopping whore".

Also keep in mind, these guys like to buy TYPES of gifts that fit into their erotic fantasies.  In other words, good luck finding a guy to go buy that "blender" I mentioned earlier in this thread.  Blenders just aren't sexy; imagery of a frumpy housewife may come into his head. If you position it as a blender that you and your girlfriends will be sexin' it up at a bachelorette party, it may be more fun for him to buy.   Try eroticizing a toaster oven or lamp.   There are no shortage of "humiliation slaves" that may want to buy sexy shoes (if they find them sexy - there goes comfort!) or whatnot.

Because the men that enjoy and pursue this kind of fetish don't have a desire to do it "no strings attached," remember there's always a power exchange in place. You can't motivate a man just by asking.  You have to appeal to a very specific fetish and do it in a manner that satisfies his fantasy; when you compete with a fantasy, you almost always lose.  I just never found it worth the energy to even pursue, and buying my own blender seemed much more efficient.

Akasha




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Buy me gifts. Spoil me. You don't deserve me! (2/3/2009 8:42:42 AM)

So true, Akasha!  I gave it up ages ago, for that very same reason.  I love shoes, but what do I need with shoes that I can't wear to work?  Fancy lingerie shows through my clothes, and garters do too! 

And, there is that element of them backing out that annoys me.  Not backing out of the gifts, which I truly could care less about, but the PICTURES and evidence that they are doing what I ask.  Fetishists are a freakin JOB.




LaTigresse -> RE: Buy me gifts. Spoil me. You don't deserve me! (2/3/2009 8:46:22 AM)

That makes a great deal of sense AAkasha. And you are correct, I wouldn't have any use for most of that type of item. Nor do I have that kind of time.

I just began to wonder about the logistics of how those that do it, do it.

Le' sigh..........so much for increasing my golden bangle collection...........[;)]




SylvereApLeanan -> RE: Buy me gifts. Spoil me. You don't deserve me! (2/3/2009 1:36:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AAkasha
To me, the kind of mindset, the type of writing and/or phone calls, that level of intense humiliation is very emotionally taxing *on me*,


This part sounds like tons of fun to me.  I love to write and to role-play.  For me, it's relaxing.  And I can always use additions to my wardrobe, jewelry box, etc. regardless how practical the items are or are not.  Unfortunately, I don't have the start-up capital (or, let's face it, the know-how), to run a website like this.  *sigh*




AAkasha -> RE: Buy me gifts. Spoil me. You don't deserve me! (2/3/2009 2:04:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SylvereApLeanan

quote:

ORIGINAL: AAkasha
To me, the kind of mindset, the type of writing and/or phone calls, that level of intense humiliation is very emotionally taxing *on me*,


This part sounds like tons of fun to me.  I love to write and to role-play.  For me, it's relaxing.  And I can always use additions to my wardrobe, jewelry box, etc. regardless how practical the items are or are not.  Unfortunately, I don't have the start-up capital (or, let's face it, the know-how), to run a website like this.  *sigh*


You don't need any start up capital beyond a few thousand dollars (I am guessing what my site cost me to run the first five years, and server space is cheaper now or can be found for free).  You don't need any know-how either (I started my web site when the Internet was still mostly text). What you do need is sincere desire/passion and time.  My site existed for 5 years before it even remotely became a portal for anything than a place to share my stories and I worked on it for a very long time and never made a penny.  What it takes to build credibility on the Web is time and your own reputation.  At some point though, it just doesn't make any sense to invest that much time (for me, personally) in fun side projects like telephone domination anymore, for example.  A couple of years out of college with a growing readership to my site of all fairly intelligent (early adopters on the Web) readers, pay-for-play phone domination a few hours of week made sense and paid for my expensive toys and wardrobe and the callers were generally awesome.  Fifteen years into my career now, I have so little free time and my time is so valuable to me that I can't do phone domination regularly enough to build up a decent client base like I used to have. Nowadays if I do decide to turn on my phone, I just get wankers who only read the first page of my site anyway (and found it randomly) and want to know where the naked pictures of me are.  No thanks! :)

Akasha




SylvereApLeanan -> RE: Buy me gifts. Spoil me. You don't deserve me! (2/3/2009 2:49:33 PM)

It's that darn time thing that always kills me.  Between school, offspring, and assorted other obligations, my time is at a premium already.  The phone domination is also something that poses a problem for me.  I'm way more intimidating in person than I am over the phone.  Tech of any sort makes me sound like I'm twelve.  [&:]  It's also much easier to role-play a scene when I can read the other person's body language for cues.  I'm not sure I could do the same thing with only voice.  It's fun to contemplate though.




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Buy me gifts. Spoil me. You don't deserve me! (2/4/2009 8:46:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: AAkasha

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ORIGINAL: SylvereApLeanan

quote:

ORIGINAL: AAkasha
To me, the kind of mindset, the type of writing and/or phone calls, that level of intense humiliation is very emotionally taxing *on me*,


This part sounds like tons of fun to me.  I love to write and to role-play.  For me, it's relaxing.  And I can always use additions to my wardrobe, jewelry box, etc. regardless how practical the items are or are not.  Unfortunately, I don't have the start-up capital (or, let's face it, the know-how), to run a website like this.  *sigh*


You don't need any start up capital beyond a few thousand dollars (I am guessing what my site cost me to run the first five years, and server space is cheaper now or can be found for free).  You don't need any know-how either (I started my web site when the Internet was still mostly text). What you do need is sincere desire/passion and time.  My site existed for 5 years before it even remotely became a portal for anything than a place to share my stories and I worked on it for a very long time and never made a penny.  What it takes to build credibility on the Web is time and your own reputation.  At some point though, it just doesn't make any sense to invest that much time (for me, personally) in fun side projects like telephone domination anymore, for example.  A couple of years out of college with a growing readership to my site of all fairly intelligent (early adopters on the Web) readers, pay-for-play phone domination a few hours of week made sense and paid for my expensive toys and wardrobe and the callers were generally awesome.  Fifteen years into my career now, I have so little free time and my time is so valuable to me that I can't do phone domination regularly enough to build up a decent client base like I used to have. Nowadays if I do decide to turn on my phone, I just get wankers who only read the first page of my site anyway (and found it randomly) and want to know where the naked pictures of me are.  No thanks! :)

Akasha



I just have one question:

Where are the naked pictures?




LunaVenus -> RE: Buy me gifts. Spoil me. You don't deserve me! (2/4/2009 8:49:02 AM)

I am about to take some for my site dear [;)]




FullfigRIMAAM1 -> RE: Buy me gifts. Spoil me. You don't deserve me! (2/4/2009 9:50:16 AM)

This isn't my kink, in that I don't feel I should have to ask, at all.   I will date a poor or not so poor man, as long as he is a generous human being.   Whether what he has to offer is attention, smarts, ability to cook and worship, all good. [;)]    M




4u2spoil -> RE: Buy me gifts. Spoil me. You don't deserve me! (2/4/2009 10:45:41 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Personally, I don't believe most of them are getting so much as a pecan roll from Stuckey's.


[sm=lol.gif] This line just made me snort (from laughter) a little




domiguy -> RE: Buy me gifts. Spoil me. You don't deserve me! (2/4/2009 10:54:52 AM)

Much of what has been posted here is complete crappola.  It seems for along time that men have paid for the services provided by women.  I doubt many out here are suffering or feel used or humiliated by supplying these dommetutes with what they desire. 

I also can only imagine that once you start going down the slippery slope of trading services for dollars that virtually everything is negotiable.  You have already proven that you can be bought.

It's all rather sad as well as disgusting.




sirsholly -> RE: Buy me gifts. Spoil me. You don't deserve me! (2/4/2009 11:22:52 AM)

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once you start going down the slippery slope of trading services for dollars that virtually everything is negotiable. You have already proven that you can be bought.

you equate selling a service..a business deal if you will...with buying the Domme? You must be joking.




OttersSwim -> RE: Buy me gifts. Spoil me. You don't deserve me! (2/4/2009 12:10:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

Much of what has been posted here is complete crappola.  It seems for along time that men have paid for the services provided by women.  I doubt many out here are suffering or feel used or humiliated by supplying these dommetutes with what they desire. 

I also can only imagine that once you start going down the slippery slope of trading services for dollars that virtually everything is negotiable.  You have already proven that you can be bought.

It's all rather sad as well as disgusting.


What's complete crappola is you coming into this topic with an aggressive and insulting first and last line.  And FYI, the crap you typed in between those two lines was no stunning insight.  Spin again gadfly...  [;)]




MISTRESSKUMA -> RE: Buy me gifts. Spoil me. You don't deserve me! (2/4/2009 12:19:54 PM)

We Women have had mountains moved for us by men. Everything a man does he does for a woman. If no woman existed, men would be lazy poor fat beer belly slugs. Women know they know they got what men want. Female sexuality is powerful, which is why males are more competitive and more aggressive than females - mostly in order to win female approval and mating rights. And because women prefer males who can accomplish a certain dominance rank, who can provide resources and security - and that aggression is one method that males achieve these things, and was probably the primary method during the earlier stages of our beginnings in evolution. But now in our modern times there are other ways that males can achieve these things, particularly the males of today - through charm and charisma, through intelligence, and of course money. [:D][:D][:D]




sirsholly -> RE: Buy me gifts. Spoil me. You don't deserve me! (2/4/2009 12:21:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MISTRESSKUMA

We Women have had mountains moved for us by men. Everything a man does he does for a woman. If no woman existed, men would be lazy poor fat beer belly slugs. Women know they know they got what men want. Female sexuality is powerful, which is why males are more competitive and more aggressive than females - mostly in order to win female approval and mating rights. And because women prefer males who can accomplish a certain dominance rank, who can provide resources and security - and that aggression is one method that males achieve these things, and was probably the primary method during the earlier stages of our beginnings in evolution. But now in our modern times there are other ways that males can achieve these things, particularly the males of today - through charm and charisma, through intelligence, and of course money. [:D][:D][:D]

complete and utter bullshit [8|]




LaTigresse -> RE: Buy me gifts. Spoil me. You don't deserve me! (2/4/2009 12:30:24 PM)

Actually Holly, there is some truth to some of it. Just that it does not apply to all people, all the time.

Most men are rather easily manipulated by sex. At least most I have met.

Most hetro women are swayed by an otherwise less than impressive man, by him having more money. If not, guys like Donald Trump wouldn't get laid, let alone married.




sirsholly -> RE: Buy me gifts. Spoil me. You don't deserve me! (2/4/2009 12:40:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MISTRESSKUMA

We Women have had mountains moved for us by men. Everything a man does he does for a woman.Really? I would have to hear from the guys on this one. And when you consider a homosexual, your theory is sorta shot in the ass If no woman existed, men would be lazy poor fat beer belly slugs.So...how do you explain the men who are lazy, poor, fat, beer belly slugs? And an FYI, cupcake, there are many, many men who take care of themselves for the purpose of feeling good. Women know they know they got what men want. Female sexuality is powerful, which is why males are more competitive and more aggressive than females - mostly in order to win female approval and mating rights.Uh...no. A competitive nature does not have its roots in the cock, Sorry. And because women prefer males who can accomplish a certain dominance rank, who can provide resources and securityI provide my own resources and security, thanks. - and that aggression is one method that males achieve these things, and was probably the primary method during the earlier stages of our beginnings in evolution.Yeah...back then aggression was the primary means of survival. These times they are a changin'  But now in our modern times there are other ways that males can achieve these things, particularly the males of today - through charm and charisma, through intelligence, and of course money Reading this post of yours...i get the feeling MONEY is first on your list.




sirsholly -> RE: Buy me gifts. Spoil me. You don't deserve me! (2/4/2009 12:50:43 PM)

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Most hetro women are swayed by an otherwise less than impressive man, by him having more money. If not, guys like Donald Trump wouldn't get laid, let alone married.

Ya got me on the Donald, LaT [:)]

However...while I do agree that women may show an interest in a man flashing a bank roll, i think the interest is more curiosity than anything else (and i am talking about the average woman here...not a money hungry skank). In other words...what does he have that gives him that earning power? Once that curiosity is met, then hopefully compatibility becomes an issue




LaTigresse -> RE: Buy me gifts. Spoil me. You don't deserve me! (2/4/2009 1:02:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sirsholly

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Most hetro women are swayed by an otherwise less than impressive man, by him having more money. If not, guys like Donald Trump wouldn't get laid, let alone married.

Ya got me on the Donald, LaT [:)]

However...while I do agree that women may show an interest in a man flashing a bank roll, i think the interest is more curiosity than anything else (and i am talking about the average woman here...not a money hungry skank). In other words...what does he have that gives him that earning power? Once that curiosity is met, then hopefully compatibility becomes an issue



Holly, I do know what you are saying and I know that there are many people that focus first and foremost on the person rather than bankroll. I am just saying that the old "doctor lawyer versus ditch digger" for husband material is still there. It is subtle, very very subtle, but I see it far too often to pretend otherwise.

The only difference is that many times the women are also doctors, lawyers, sucessful women. Rarely do they marry someone "beneath them" in income and social standing. If anything, almost always, up.




sirsholly -> RE: Buy me gifts. Spoil me. You don't deserve me! (2/4/2009 1:08:44 PM)

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Holly, I do know what you are saying and I know that there are many people that focus first and foremost on the person rather than bankroll. I am just saying that the old "doctor lawyer versus ditch digger" for husband material is still there. It is subtle, very very subtle, but I see it far too often to pretend otherwise.

The only difference is that many times the women are also doctors, lawyers, sucessful women. Rarely do they marry someone "beneath them" in income and social standing. If anything, almost always, up.

Good point, LaT, especially about the professional women. I never thought about that.




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