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ORIGINAL: Crush

So, what you are saying is that it is OK for B.O. to do the same bad things that G.W.B. did?  We  excuse bad things because bad things were done?

"OOPS!  Darn...I want lobbyists on my team even though I promised lobbyists wouldn't have positions in my administration.  But that's OK, because the previous president broke a promise too?"

Puhleeze.  We were told that this would be the best and most honest administration ever.  The actions, illegal, unethical, ignorant or immoral, of past administrations is no excuse.  Especially when you run on a platform that says you won't go down that same path.

I guess that "Honest Politician" IS an oxymoron.  

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ORIGINAL: awmslave

Where is CHANGE Mr. Obama?

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ORIGINAL: T1981

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ORIGINAL: MasterShake69

We have seen samples of what occurs when the average American stands up against Obama.  Thats why his critics are attacking him on message boards.  Just making his supporters regret their votes for him.

I rarely regret laughing, which is the only emotion most of the attackers are invoking for me.

Ah well.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

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ORIGINAL: Crush

So, what you are saying is that it is OK for B.O. to do the same bad things that G.W.B. did?  We  excuse bad things because bad things were done?

"OOPS!  Darn...I want lobbyists on my team even though I promised lobbyists wouldn't have positions in my administration.  But that's OK, because the previous president broke a promise too?"

Puhleeze.  We were told that this would be the best and most honest administration ever.  The actions, illegal, unethical, ignorant or immoral, of past administrations is no excuse.  Especially when you run on a platform that says you won't go down that same path.

I guess that "Honest Politician" IS an oxymoron.  

And after less than 2 full weeks on the job,there are those giving his administration a grade already.Please this is just so much utter bullshit,and isn't even worth arguing about.President Obama has put in place the strictest ethics code any administration has ever required of its employees concerning how long they are barred from working with lobbiest after they leave his administration.

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ORIGINAL: hardbodysub

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ORIGINAL: awmslave

Where is CHANGE Mr. Obama?

If you've been paying any attention at all to national news, you'd have seen evidence of serious change in US international relations, as well as important domestic issues. I'm not thrilled about the lobbyists, but you have to take a closer look at the positions they're in vis-a-vis what they lobbied for. Bush repeatedly put foxes in charge of the henhouses, appointing people opposed to the very mission of the agencies they were appointed to head. He was also renowned for filling agencies with unqualified political cronies. I'll bet if you look at Obama's appointees, you'll learn that they at least are qualified for their positions, and won't be turning their agencies into a complete joke, like Bush's cronies did.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity
Google "Joe The Plumber".

It's common knowledge that Joe was savaged just for asking Candidate Obama a few pressing questions, and many Liberals will tell you that they're happy about that fact.

Every aspect of Joe's  life was placed under a microscope and every possible deficiency was headline news. He lost his job, his tax records were made public...

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Joe learned the hard way not to ask Obama too many questions.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

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ORIGINAL: Crush

So, what you are saying is that it is OK for B.O. to do the same bad things that G.W.B. did?  We  excuse bad things because bad things were done?

"OOPS!  Darn...I want lobbyists on my team even though I promised lobbyists wouldn't have positions in my administration.  But that's OK, because the previous president broke a promise too?"

Puhleeze.  We were told that this would be the best and most honest administration ever.  The actions, illegal, unethical, ignorant or immoral, of past administrations is no excuse.  Especially when you run on a platform that says you won't go down that same path.

I guess that "Honest Politician" IS an oxymoron.  

And after less than 2 full weeks on the job,there are those giving his administration a grade already.Please this is just so much utter bullshit,and isn't even worth arguing about.President Obama has put in place the strictest ethics code any administration has ever required of its employees concerning how long they are barred from working with lobbiest after they leave his administration.

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ORIGINAL: MmeGigs

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ORIGINAL: Sanity
Google "Joe The Plumber".

It's common knowledge that Joe was savaged just for asking Candidate Obama a few pressing questions, and many Liberals will tell you that they're happy about that fact.

Every aspect of Joe's  life was placed under a microscope and every possible deficiency was headline news. He lost his job, his tax records were made public...

You're misremembering.  It wasn't Joe's question that got Joe all of the attention, it was Obama's answer, which had to do with "spreading the wealth".  The McCain campaign made a big deal out of that response.  That's completely fair - they'd have been fools not to.  They also made a celebrity out of Joe the Plumber, and in doing so they put him under the microscope.  People wanted to know more about him, and when the media went to find out more about him they discovered that he'd made up important parts of his story. 

It sucks getting caught in a lie, it must suck monumentally to have the whole world see it.  I don't think he needs anyone's sympathy, though.  Joe may have lost his $40k/yr job (turned out his company was violating regulations by having him do plumbing work when he wasn't licensed) but he's made all kinds of media appearances, he's got a book out, he's set up a watch-dog group, and he recently got a job as a war correspondent.  It looks like this whole thing has worked out pretty danged well for him so far. 

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Joe learned the hard way not to ask Obama too many questions.

What is the lesson here?  Ask Obama a tough question and you'll get a book deal?

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ORIGINAL: hardbodysub
If you've been paying any attention at all to national news, you'd have seen evidence of serious change in US international relations,

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Iran says Obama's offer to talk shows US failure

US President Barack Obama's offer to talk to Iran shows that America's policy of "domination" has failed, the government spokesman said on Saturday.


"This request means Western ideology has become passive, that capitalist thought and the system of domination have failed," Gholam Hossein Elham was quoted as saying by the Mehr news agency.


"Negotiation is secondary, the main issue is that there is no way but for (the United States) to change," he added.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.073ba2ee2f1f00668848a4655420fedc.411&show_article=1

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The EU has increased its pressure on the US to reconsider the "Buy American" clause in the $800bn (£567bn) economic recovery package now before Congress.

The clause seeks to ensure that only US iron, steel and manufactured goods are used in projects funded by the bill.


A European Commission spokesman said it was the "worst possible signal" the Obama administration could send out.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7866900.stm

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

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ORIGINAL: Crush

So, what you are saying is that it is OK for B.O. to do the same bad things that G.W.B. did?  We  excuse bad things because bad things were done?

"OOPS!  Darn...I want lobbyists on my team even though I promised lobbyists wouldn't have positions in my administration.  But that's OK, because the previous president broke a promise too?"

Puhleeze.  We were told that this would be the best and most honest administration ever.  The actions, illegal, unethical, ignorant or immoral, of past administrations is no excuse.  Especially when you run on a platform that says you won't go down that same path.

I guess that "Honest Politician" IS an oxymoron.  

And after less than 2 full weeks on the job,there are those giving his administration a grade already.Please this is just so much utter bullshit,and isn't even worth arguing about.President Obama has put in place the strictest ethics code any administration has ever required of its employees concerning how long they are barred from working with lobbiest after they leave his administration.

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ORIGINAL: E2Sweet

Here's a link that tells you step by step how to contact the President of The United States to voice your opinion(s) about his job performance, or whatever else you'd like to say. Why waste time posting here when you can say it directly to him? Unless of course yer chicken to say to him what you're proclaiming here...

How to Write a Letter to the President of the United States:
http://www.ehow.com/how_4561907_letter-president-united-states-america.html

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

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ORIGINAL: Coldwarrior57

did you see that now its comming out that team O had highlevel meetings with Iran, in direct violation of the logan act!

Summary

The Logan Act, codified at 18 U.S.C. § 953, states:

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without

authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any

correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or

agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States,

or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or

imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply, himself or his

agent, to any foreign government or the agents thereof for redress of any injury

which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or

subjects.

The Logan Act was intended to prohibit United States citizens without authority

from interfering in relations between the United States and foreign governments.

There appear to have been no prosecutions under the Act in its more than 200 year

history. However, there have been a number of judicial references to the Act, and it

is not uncommon for it to be used as a point of challenge concerning dealings with

foreign officials. Although attempts have been made to repeal the Act, it remains law

and at least a potential sanction to be used against anyone who without authority

interferes in the foreign relations of the United States.

 

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL33265.pdf

 

"So far as can be determined, there have been no prosecutions under the Logan

Act."

 

If I were Obama I would be shaking in my boots....Oh no! they are going to prosecute me under the Logan Act!  

 

Maybe they could come after him with some other scofflaws that are still on the books...Sodomy or spitting on a sidewalk.

 

Do you even bother reading what you post?  But I remember that you are only after the "truth"...."I do not tolerate lies. a lie is a lie is a lie."  You don't care about lies or the truth....You only care about drivel that will support your stringent political beliefs...You are as transparent as you are silly.

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Everyone knows that Joe was a Republican plant and that he was screwing Sarah Palin .

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ORIGINAL: Crush

So, what you are saying is that it is OK for B.O. to do the same bad things that G.W.B. did?  We  excuse bad things because bad things were done?

"OOPS!  Darn...I want lobbyists on my team even though I promised lobbyists wouldn't have positions in my administration.  But that's OK, because the previous president broke a promise too?"

Puhleeze.  We were told that this would be the best and most honest administration ever.  The actions, illegal, unethical, ignorant or immoral, of past administrations is no excuse.  Especially when you run on a platform that says you won't go down that same path.

I guess that "Honest Politician" IS an oxymoron.  

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ORIGINAL: Coldwarrior57

so I guess for real journalism we need to look outside our shores. How sad .

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

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ORIGINAL: Crush

So, what you are saying is that it is OK for B.O. to do the same bad things that G.W.B. did?  We  excuse bad things because bad things were done?

"OOPS!  Darn...I want lobbyists on my team even though I promised lobbyists wouldn't have positions in my administration.  But that's OK, because the previous president broke a promise too?"

Puhleeze.  We were told that this would be the best and most honest administration ever.  The actions, illegal, unethical, ignorant or immoral, of past administrations is no excuse.  Especially when you run on a platform that says you won't go down that same path.

I guess that "Honest Politician" IS an oxymoron.  

And after less than 2 full weeks on the job,there are those giving his administration a grade already.Please this is just so much utter bullshit,and isn't even worth arguing about.President Obama has put in place the strictest ethics code any administration has ever required of its employees concerning how long they are barred from working with lobbiest after they leave his administration.

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

~FR~

So what does everyone think of Obama's performance on vetting these two nominees? Think it could be improved? Were there mistakes made? Should he continue to support them if they are avoiding paying taxes?

Instead of slinging personal cuts or cute remarks back and forth, how about actually addressing the questions.