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When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant more... - 2/4/2009 10:40:26 AM   
rednicky


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Status: offline 		I was looking for a thread dealing with this and found one! But, unfortunately, it didn't really didn't provide me with the responses I was looking for. I'm a feminist (some form of one anyway), but I take it a step further than traditional feminists. Feminists are searching for equality. I want to get even. As in, instead of being equal with men, I want the role to be reversed. I want there to be a glass ceiling for men. I want women to be on top while men are treated as the weaker sex. It just makes me angry when I look back on history and see how people who are part of my demographic are treated. I am not only a woman but an African American woman. One can say, and I would not deny it, that I am bitter. Because I 'am' bitter. If I had it my way, a simple apology for slavery from the President simply wouldn't do. I'd want to enslave white people for about 200 years. Then I'd call it even. Of course, I know that feeling this way is wrong. Especially since I have never personally been a slave. But I'm not someone who is looking to be right. I'm looking for revenge. I'm sure this is ironic coming from a submissive woman who actually seeks (and perhaps has found) a white Dom. You'd think I'd be some sort of Dominatrix looking to make a white submissive male suffer. Honestly, something like that wouldn't be gratifying if the male submitted 'wanted' to be tortured.

I guess the only reason I am a daughter-type submissive is because I was made this way. Growing up, I was always treated as a child, even when I got to the point where I was no longer one. Because of the way I look, adults would underminr me even though I voted like they did, paid taxes like they did, and worked like they did (Soon I'll be able to drink like they do as well). But I'll always be treated like a 12 year old. Take today for example. I went to the deli like I do almost every day and I ordered an egg salad sandwich on potato bread with extra mayo. The woman refused to give me my extra mayo (which I order EVERY TIME I go there)! She didn't want me to 'kill over' (as she put it). Even though I insisted, she said no. And she said I'd have to put the mayo on my sandwich myself. She would not want to be responsible. Apparently, I was too young to be so unhealthy. First off, since when is it her place to tell what I should and should not eat? She's there to take my order. Not tell me what's best for me. I know that, had I been a grown woman who actually 'looked' like a grown woman, she wouldn't have said a thing. She might have shook her head, but she would have taken my goddamn order (sorry, a little pissed right now). But because I am petite, with a baby face and a baby voice, she did not take me seriously. Now I 'could' have gotten loud and demanded that I get what I ordered but causing a commotion is not how I handle stuff like this. Especially when the person is handling my food. I just silently vowed to myself not to let this woman prepare my food anymore. I'd just get in a different line next time.

I feel as though I am at the bottom of the totem pole. Not only am I a woman but I am a woman of color. And not only am I a woman of color but I'm a woman of color who looks like she should still be in middle school. People either treat me like a child or they dismiss me all together. I get carded just to see a rated R movie, while my friends (whom are younger than myself I might add) walk in with no trouble. And this causes me to have somewhat of an attitude issue (things could have gotten a whole lot worse at that deli). I just want to be treated as a normal woman. I want unquestioned respect without having to ask for it. I want to be treated like all the other women my age are treated. But I'm not. And it gets frustrating. I want to submit like a normal submissive woman but how can I when the people around me act like they're the bosses of me? Instead of 'choosing' to submit around people I want to submit to, I am forcefully dominated by the people around me and, only when I catch an attitude or get loud, do people treat me with the respect that is automatically given to everybody else. I don't want to be mean. But that seems to be what it takes in order to be treated like a goddamn adult. Since I can't get the respect I want in real life, I suppose I work with what God gave me by choosing to act as a child in this lifestyle. It's the only way I can be taken at least half-way seriously. Sure, I'd act like a child in this lifestyle, but the men would know ahead of time that I'm not. I'd get the best of both worlds. I'd be protected and spoiled as a child but recognized as a mentally stable adult with the capacity to make her own decisions. But this seems to only be limited to the 1 man I choose to dominate me (whom has gotten to know me). Never could I expect such treatment in real life. Because even if I do behave as an adult in real life and demand respect, people still look at me and say "Seriously, where's your mother?"

I remember I was at a Hallmark last year and the lady wouldn't let me make an expensive purchase because she thought I was 'too young' to have a credit card. It wasn't enough that I had my photo ON my credit card. I had to provide two more forms of I.D. Because even my driver's License wasn't enough. And when she saw that I actually was old enough, she had the nerve to drag her co-workers over so that they could look at me and gasp along with her. How dare she! How rude! And the bitch in me would have kicked in, too. But I was raised better than that and I simply smiled and asked if I could make my purchases.

I just cant help but wonder what it will really take for me to be taken seriously. Do I have to be a bitch all the time? Do I have to tape my Driver's License to my forehead? Why can't I be treated in ways that come naturally to everyone else? Why do things have to be so hard for me? Why do I have to rely on the internet to find a man because men in real life don't view me as a woman but as a kid? It seems like the only men who bother see me as a sexual being are pedophiles who really DO think I'm a child in which they can manipulate. Every time I go out with friends, the guys often wonder why one of my female friends brought along her 'little sister'. I'm angry and bitter and I want to get back at the world so badly. But then I know for a fact that I'd be alone from then on. Every time I am underestimated (which is everyday) I'd get defensive. Being polite about my circumstances doesn't seem to be enough to get respect in this world. No, I have to be rude and mean and bitchy in order for me to be taken seriously. And when I do act that way, no one wants to be bothered with me and I end up alone. And it's only going to get harder as I get older. When I'm ready to buy my first car, will a dealer even acknowledge me? What about when I want to buy a house or get a job? Sometimes I just wish I were normal. Profiling is a bitch. And it hurts so much that I can't help but cry. Because I just can't win...

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 11:01:51 AM   
missturbation


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I was looking for a thread dealing with this and found one! But, unfortunately, it didn't really didn't provide me with the responses I was looking for.

Hmm, i wouldn't guarantee you'll get them in here either.
 
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I'm a feminist (some form of one anyway), but I take it a step further than traditional feminists. Feminists are searching for equality. I want to get even. As in, instead of being equal with men, I want the role to be reversed. I want there to be a glass ceiling for men.

Sorry but get real, it's not going to happen. Not in my lifetime and i doubt yours either.
 
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I am not only a woman but an African American woman. One can say, and I would not deny it, that I am bitter. Because I 'am' bitter.

With respect it show's.
 
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If I had it my way, a simple apology for slavery from the President simply wouldn't do. I'd want to enslave white people for about 200 years. Then I'd call it even. Of course, I know that feeling this way is wrong.

You're not kidding. Don't get me wrong i sympathise with your cause but jeeze bitterness like that will eat you up.
 
I did try to wade through the rest but it just appeared to be a pit of loathing for others and self pity for yourself. Instead of sitting there feeling sorry for yourself get off your arse and do something about it.

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 11:03:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		Let me know when you figure it out.  I still have occasions where I'll post something and then a male dom will post pretty much the same thing and all thr girls will oooh and ahh and go "Oh you're such a wise and wonderful master" to him and ignore me. 

I've learned how to get taken seriously for the most part when it matters- and that's a matter of skill, experience and not going away.  But otherwise, I only need to be taken seriously by the people I bring into my life.

One piece of advice is to use underestimation to your advantage.  There's a lot of power in people not knowing just what you're capable of.  Allowing them to keep their assumptions can give you a lot of room to maneuver.

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 11:05:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: missturbation

 
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I'm a feminist (some form of one anyway), but I take it a step further than traditional feminists. Feminists are searching for equality. I want to get even. As in, instead of being equal with men, I want the role to be reversed. I want there to be a glass ceiling for men.

Sorry but get real, it's not going to happen. Not in my lifetime and i doubt yours either.

 
Thank god for that, sorry but i cant stand this attitude, why would you want to replace one form of oppression with another? 
 
 
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I did try to wade through the rest but it just appeared to be a pit of loathing for others and self pity for yourself. Instead of sitting there feeling sorry for yourself get off your arse and do something about it.


Well you did far better than me, I read the bit quoted above and gave up.

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 11:07:47 AM   
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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 11:10:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		The obsession with "getting even" is what perpetuates conflicts such as those in the Middle East and Serbia/Bosnia/Croatia. Punishing original perpetrators is not only just, but rational, as it can serve as a deterrent and can be cathartic. Seeking to punish later generations who may have unwittingly and indirectly benefited from injustice, but didn't perpetrate it themselves, is neither. If you obsess over revenge, you're doomed to a frustrating and unsatisfying life. And to quote from "The Princess Bride" (one of my absolute favorite movies of all time), "There's not a lot of money in revenge".

But I think you know that intellectually, and you're talking about emotions, where it's a different story.

I sympathize with the lack of respect you feel you are given. It's not unusual for people to subconsciously treat others differently based on their physical stature, appearance of physical maturity, gender, race, etc., and it's certainly frustrating for those receiving the disrespect.

One thing you might consider, though, is that sometimes you might be interpreting something as disrespectful or demeaning when it really isn't, because you're somewhat obsessed with it emotionally. For example, the woman may have refused to put extra mayonnaise on the sandwich because she really has no idea how much extra to put on, and doesn't want to screw it up. Maybe she knows one way to do it, and feels that if someone likes it differently, they'll do a better job themselves than she would. I'm not saying that that's what was going on, but just that it might be a good idea to step back from the situation and consider alternative interpretations, even if they seem unlikely at first.

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 11:11:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		I hear in your words, alot of pain. I won't try to discredit that. What I will say is this.......We teach others how to treat us. As much as you want to get angry and throw a tantrum, you will only be fueling the fire that you are raging at. But no, it will not get harder because no matter how youthful you look, you will age.

In time, your youthful looks will change. No sense in getting upset about it. Someday you will be looking in a mirror and seeing wrinkles, sagging parts and graying hair and may wish you could return to that youthful look.

All you can do is find a way to enjoy the moment, find the positives and focus on them. Live with joy. Otherwise the negative will grow because you will have focused on it. Look at yourself and find reason to love what you see. Two things will come of that. One, others will begin to see the same. Two, there will come a time when it will not matter to you if they don't.

If someone does not give you the service you want, extra mayo, ask to speak to the manager and tell them what happened and that you will take your business elsewhere. Being rude and bitchy IS childish and will only cause people to treat you so.

Find a woman that you admire, who's behaviour you see as perfection. Gracious and strong. Then, when you are treated in a manner that upsets you, think "what would .......name of woman.... do? Hopefully you have chosen wisely and it won't be throwing a nasty screaming tantrum.

Edited to add..........The part LA said about using it to your advantage. I simply ADORE being underestimated!!! I am usually a very even tempered nice person. On the few occasions someone has pushed too far, the look of abject terror on their face when I actually got angry with them, was priceless.

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 11:13:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		if it gives you any comfort, single women with college degrees already make more than single males with the same level of education for the same jobs. and a higher percentage of women go to college than men, so the gender reversal is already happening. please go to college (if you are not) and become a part of it

as for slavery and color...if all you look at is the last 200 years in the us, things look very different than if you look at the whole world with a longer historical perspective. slavery has been commonly accepted among all races for thousands of years. white slaves were common in africa in the middle ages, for example, and repulsion to slavery only took hold in the 1500s, although the us was a latecomer to that. in any event, slavery was wrong, another wrong wouldn't make it right

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 11:17:26 AM   
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if it gives you any comfort, single women with college degrees already make more than single males with the same level of education for the same jobs. and a higher percentage of women go to college than men, so the gender reversal is already happening. please go to college (if you are not) and become a part of it


Wow dude I would totally love sources that prove that there 'fact' because im pretty sure that its bollocks (that is unless it changed in the last year since I looked at male-female wage structrue)

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 11:19:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		Feminism isn't about retribution or reparations, it's about choice.  At least, it's supposed to be.  That's how it started out; what it's become, if women buy the adjenda hook-line-and-sinker, is every bit as limiting and choice-restrictive as what it was supposed to be combatting, potentially more-so as we get even more responsibilities and have to be super-women. 
But, thankfully, we're the thinking animal (Humans, I mean, not just women) and if we understand the fundamental presumption that it's about choice.  To fully exercise choice, one must feel that they have the power to do such, so empowerment of choice becomes fundamental.  Now, if we allow external forces to empower our choices, then those external forces can take them away.  However, if we develop empowerment within ourselves, even in the least advantageous situations, there is still a choice, even if it is a choice in how to perceive the situation at hand. 
You see, I see a lot of 2-dimensional, disempowered thinking evidenced in your original post, RedNicky.  How does that serve you?  The only potential benefit I can see is absolution of responsibility and I don't view that as a benefit at all because with that, you relinquish your freedom. 
How, you say, can one be a feminist and *gasp* on the s-side of the kneel in D/s and not feel down-trodden?  Self-acceptance and choosing a partner that lifts you up rather than tears you down.  The s-side of the kneel isn't inherently disempowered; it takes one to make the other anything other than theoretical relationally speaking, it is a choice and has responsibilities, if one accepts that part of themselves, they may become able to revel in being true to themselves. 
True feminism is, in no way, in opposition to incorporating D/s into one's life be it on either or both sides of the kneel; it's all about choice and with every choice and freedom come responsibilities. 
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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 11:21:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		Wow.  I can't believe what I just read.  That you would enslave every white person.
If you are as you claim to be, educated, you should know that in every time and place every race has been enslaved at some point.  Even now we are experiencing a time of "white slavery".  Don't know what that is?  Perhaps you should find out.
Africans have enslaved and enslaved for centuries.  Egyptians enslaved many different races.  Perhaps we should have open season on Egyptians.  Romans owned slaves.  Any italians out there want to be killed because your ancestors were a-holes?
And the one I like most: whites and blacks line up and get out, because America is MY country.  That's right, I'm part Native American, so everyone line up and go back where you came from!!!

Instead of being bitter, you should spend a little more time finding out what you're bitter about.

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 11:22:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		I agree...this's one of the whinier threads lol however, just because you have a baby face and a baby voice doesn't mean you are doomed and that people will treat you like a kid. It's probably your attitude and/or the way you dress.

I'm curious if you avoid caucasian people then in general or if you have caucasian friends...because if you do have caucasian friends then you become kind of a hypocrite (not that you aren't one since you have a white dominant....)

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 11:26:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've always been very young-looking. It was a curse until I hit 30 or so. Wait a while, and you'll enjoy being mistaken for much younger than you are.

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 11:27:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		Oh, and about the "young" thing.  I was 30 and IDd to buy a lottery ticket.  An F-ING lottery ticket.  Trust me, it does get better, but when you're old and you finally LOOK old, it's not much of a reward.

Edited to add: And I can't tell you how many times I went into a bar and was told I didn't have a real driver's license because that couldn't possibly be my age, or I had borrowed someone's because I was not who I said I was.
And I'll never forget going out with my ex who is 6 years younger than me, and being carded to buy a drink.  I didn't have it with me, and so he bought the drink for me.  He wasn't carded.

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 11:29:01 AM   
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LMAO... thank you, I needed a good laugh today!

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 11:30:01 AM   
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if it gives you any comfort, single women with college degrees already make more than single males with the same level of education for the same jobs. and a higher percentage of women go to college than men, so the gender reversal is already happening. please go to college (if you are not) and become a part of it


Wow dude I would totally love sources that prove that there 'fact' because im pretty sure that its bollocks (that is unless it changed in the last year since I looked at male-female wage structrue)


Seconding the request for source-quotes on that assertion.  It flies in the face of ever bit of data I've ever seen. 
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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 11:34:38 AM   
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I'm reading alot of self-hatred in your rant. Alot of "Why am I not good enough?" "Why can't I get men to like me for who I am?" "Why can't I be the kind of person people take seriously?" The part about settling for men who want a father/daughter relationship because you feel that's all you're good for is especially unsettling.

And I'm also reading alot of conflicted feelings, especially concerning the D/s aspect of where you are coming from. Perhaps it's nothing, but I'm a little worried that you are coming into the BDSM scene with such attachement to the idea of "revenge" or "getting even." That doesn't make for healthy relationships, and on either side, could wind up with you getting, at the very least, your heart broken into a thousand little pieces, or at worst, quite physically hurt. Even if you don't wind up being a dominatrix, being a submissive that carries that kind of a chip on her shoulder could wind up with the anger being turned inwards - not healthy.

I understand the confusion about the feminist thing. I, too, had a hard time with that. But as I've gone on in the scene, it comes down to simple choice. I choose to be a submissive. I also choose to be a feminist. They are not so oppisite of each other, really.

I believe LuckyAlbatross said in another thread of yours that it's a good idea to slow down and decide what YOU want out of D/s. Taking the time to do that could prove very useful and extremely fufilling for you.


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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 11:37:35 AM   
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Where to start?

I'm reading alot of self-hatred in your rant. Alot of "Why am I not good enough?" "Why can't I get men to like me for who I am?" "Why can't I be the kind of person people take seriously?" The part about settling for men who want a father/daughter relationship because you feel that's all you're good for is especially unsettling.

And I'm also reading alot of conflicted feelings, especially concerning the D/s aspect of where you are coming from. Perhaps it's nothing, but I'm a little worried that you are coming into the BDSM scene with such attachement to the idea of "revenge" or "getting even." That doesn't make for healthy relationships, and on either side, could wind up with you getting, at the very least, your heart broken into a thousand little pieces, or at worst, quite physically hurt. Even if you don't wind up being a dominatrix, being a submissive that carries that kind of a chip on her shoulder could wind up with the anger being turned inwards - not healthy.

I understand the confusion about the feminist thing. I, too, had a hard time with that. But as I've gone on in the scene, it comes down to simple choice. I choose to be a submissive. I also choose to be a feminist. They are not so oppisite of each other, really.

I believe LuckyAlbatross said in another thread of yours that it's a good idea to slow down and decide what YOU want out of D/s. Taking the time to do that could prove very useful and extremely fufilling for you.



Ooooooo theres a poem, there is, nods head yup.
Cant find the poem but its by rosaleen young and its called the submissive to the suffragette.

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 11:39:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		It seems as if you're grasping at straws and trying to find something to complain about more than anything. But, I'll give you advice the best way I know how.

Two wrongs have never made a right. Enslaving white people and making men the weaker sex won't help your feelings. Analyze them and see where they start, if you have this much anger, it's coming from somewhere.

You're a woman of color, I don't care. Stop trying to use it as a 'pity me' card and maybe people would respect you more.

You've owned the issues you face now, fix them. Being angry over looking so young seems silly and an incredible waste of energy. Do something far more productive with your life than wasting it stressing over how young you look.

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 11:41:11 AM   
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I choose to be a submissive. I also choose to be a feminist. They are not so oppisite of each other, really.



And here is the crux of the matter. The common concpetion of feminists is the bra burning man hating woman. Thats a pile of crap and really an image perpetuated by the media so that feminism becomes a dirty word

I am a feminist all women should be really, I believe that everyone has the choice to be treated as an individual. This doesnt mean that some women wont want to be housewives but the assumption shouldnt be that all have to be.

Some feminists are just as bad, they say that for women to be respected we have to have high powered jobs and to be submissive is anti-feminists. Honestly thats stupid. Like the OPs assertation its replacing like for like oppression for oppression.

Women should have the right to be whatever they are just as men should be. Some people are good at some things and not so good at others it shouldnt be that we assume anyone of either gender will instantly be good or bad at something its a pile of crap.

Im sorry OP but I really dont agree with what you are writing, maybe it is simply bitterness maybe its confusion. Its true that people feel oppression for many differant things, race,gender, class, age etc but we have to choose to try and rise above it, not be so defeatest, you cant change the world by accepting in the way that it is. And just being full of revenge isnt going to help either.

You can be strong in other ways. You have to empower yourself. But seriously stop being so defeatist someone who blames everything on discrimination really does get boring.

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