A gift! is it thus or not?

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CelticPrince -> A gift! is it thus or not? (2/8/2009 3:23:21 PM)
There have been some posts that danced around this subject but unless I missed it, it has not been recently. Every day another couple of dozen folks come into CM with varied take of the subject. It is of little consequence for the pupose of this thread which side of the slash your on. What is of some import is your feelings on the subject. Within the contect of D/s, is submission a gift given freely or not? What say you A/all? CP

Lynnxz -> RE: A gift! is it thus or not? (2/8/2009 3:26:20 PM)
O lord. Did you miss the flame fest last night? [:D] There were dominant phallic bananas and everything.

T1981 -> RE: A gift! is it thus or not? (2/8/2009 3:27:33 PM)
Yes and no. My submission is a gift given freely to someone who respects it. Someone who won't abuse it. That means some time getting to know someone before I heave-ho my submission up onto a silver platter to be given.

windchymes -> RE: A gift! is it thus or not? (2/8/2009 3:29:42 PM)
I'm headin' down to the fallout shelter....[8\|]

mistoferin -> RE: A gift! is it thus or not? (2/8/2009 3:32:32 PM)
We live in the real world. We both give and take from each other. We have expectations of each other that color our interactions, whether we care to admit it or not. It's not "inspired" either because...well...that real world thing again and all that shit. Some days neither one of us are very fucking inspired...or inspiring. We just are and we just do whatever works.

littlewonder -> RE: A gift! is it thus or not? (2/8/2009 3:34:20 PM)
It's not a gift. It's an inspiration. He dominates me with his personality and in return he inspires me to want to submit to him.

Voodali -> RE: A gift! is it thus or not? (2/8/2009 3:37:22 PM)
Well...since the only way I can take submission from an unwilling victim is to break the law...the only sort of submission I'm going to get will have to be a gift.

NCNutCase -> RE: A gift! is it thus or not? (2/8/2009 3:49:00 PM)
In my opinion… Submission is not a gift… it’s a characteristic… Sharing this characteristic with someone without limitation, is not a gift. It’s something that may happen in a relationship that takes a lot of time and work from both/all parties involved… But it sounds really pretty and makes a lot of submissives feel good about themselves… but when the words are truly dissected I just don’t feel the statement makes sense…

aravain -> RE: A gift! is it thus or not? (2/8/2009 3:50:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: windchymes I'm headin' down to the fallout shelter....[8\|] Keep the door open, I'm on my way!

Lynnxz -> RE: A gift! is it thus or not? (2/8/2009 3:50:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: aravain quote: ORIGINAL: windchymes I'm headin' down to the fallout shelter....[8\|] Keep the door open, I'm on my way! This could get interesting....

catize -> RE: A gift! is it thus or not? (2/8/2009 3:52:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: aravain quote: ORIGINAL: windchymes I'm headin' down to the fallout shelter....[8\|] Keep the door open, I'm on my way! Wait for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OsideGirl -> RE: A gift! is it thus or not? (2/8/2009 3:53:22 PM)
My view is that a gift is something given with nothing expected in return. I doubt anyone on this board would be willing to give their submission to someone that gave them nothing in return.

Sexycelticlady -> RE: A gift! is it thus or not? (2/8/2009 3:54:24 PM)
Submission is a gift, as is the reciprocal Dominance in a fully aware consentual relationship. Neither is alturistic and they are choices that individuals make that benefit themselves and their partner/s.

persephonee -> RE: A gift! is it thus or not? (2/8/2009 3:55:40 PM)
Did she say, "fallout shelter"...or dark, dank, basement....wet cement walls...chains, eye bolts...shackles... my submission is not a gift.

slaveluci -> RE: A gift! is it thus or not? (2/8/2009 3:56:24 PM)
"Submission" is no more a gift than anything anyone else gives in any relationship. My parents were very happily married for nearly 33 years when my father died. Their relationship with each other was as much a "gift" to each other and me and my siblings as any I've ever seen. She was very much submissive to him but they didn't slap a kinky name on it and use whips and chains. Someone who does (or who simply calls themselves a "submissive" or "slave") is not offering anything more special than I saw her give him my entire life. What makes BDSM submissive types think what they're giving someone is some special "gift?" Puhleez, it's nothing vanilla folks aren't giving each other all over the world everyday. Get over yourselves you "gift givers."[8\|].................luci

mistoferin -> RE: A gift! is it thus or not? (2/8/2009 3:57:50 PM)
Weird. Whenever someone posts one of these "gift" threads I always get a whiff of unicorn poop. Am I the only one?

persephonee -> RE: A gift! is it thus or not? (2/8/2009 4:02:02 PM)
i do smell something...but for the life of meee......

oceanwynds -> RE: A gift! is it thus or not? (2/8/2009 4:04:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mistoferin Weird. Whenever someone posts one of these "gift" threads I always get a whiff of unicorn poop. Am I the only one? I never understood submissivenss is a gift rationale. I am taking my unicorn with me, sorry for the smelly mess.

Nikitaa -> RE: A gift! is it thus or not? (2/8/2009 4:06:56 PM)
If I find a man under Christmas tree wrapped in ribbon with bow then submissive is gift. If I must seek a man in the mens dorm building and grab him by his hair and pull him down and walk on him then is not gift, but more fun. ;-) ^^^Answer is all I have to offer. I do not have experience enough to offer serious answer. I make edit... Why is many people running into the fallout shelter?

Sexycelticlady -> RE: A gift! is it thus or not? (2/8/2009 4:08:58 PM)
Why do people get so het up over simple semantics? Does it really matter what it is called? It is an act of giving, therefore I consider it a gift, but then I also see Dominance as an act of giving and a gift as well. It is also, as someone else mentioned, not unique to D/s.

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