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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

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ORIGINAL: NeedToUseYou

It seems odd you'd attribute the responses as being based on him being black. That's fucked up, IMO, and speaks volumes about the glasses you are viewing the world with.

You really think there's no correlation then? Good luck with your rose-tinted glasses.

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Apparently Mr. Holder doesn't think we spend enough times talking about race. We're a bunch of cowards, because we're not out in our local taverns and coffeeshops having open, frank discussions about important topics like skin color and ancesteral origins.

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ORIGINAL: SpinnerofTales

As for the fight against racism being perpetual, I as an American would be proud to see a country that agreed that the fight of racism must be fought until it is eradicated, not just swept under the rug.

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As for the fight against racism being perpetual, I as an American would be proud to see a country that agreed that the fight of racism must be fought until it is eradicated, not just swept under the rug.

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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou
.what other abstract idea are we going to "fight" against?  How exactly do you propose we "fight" racism? 

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

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ORIGINAL: xBullx
Human Nature compels us to group, and at that we group with the pack we are most comfortable.

I loathe 'the pack'. I am not comfortable in a group, especially not a monochromatic one. And I have never believed in "human nature": racism is not the norm, Bull.

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Somehow, I don't believe racism is an abstract notion to the many who are on the receiving end of it. As for how is it fought against... education. Public campaigns to increase awareness, especially in areas where it's rife. It's easy. It's been done. It doesn't cost much: it takes political will though.

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ORIGINAL: Vendaval

"Hispanic
Of or relating to Spain or Spanish-speaking Latin America.

Of or relating to a Spanish-speaking people or culture.
n.   A Spanish-speaking person.

A U.S. citizen or resident of Latin-American or Spanish descent.
Usage Note: Though often used interchangeably in American English, Hispanic and Latino are not identical terms, and in certain contexts the choice between them can be significant. Hispanic, from the Latin word for "Spain," has the broader reference, potentially encompassing all Spanish-speaking peoples in both hemispheres and emphasizing the common denominator of language among communities that sometimes have little else in common. Latino—which in Spanish means "Latin" but which as an English word is probably a shortening of the Spanish word latinoamericano—refers more exclusively to persons or communities of Latin American origin. Of the two, only Hispanic can be used in referring to Spain and its history and culture; a native of Spain residing in the United States is a Hispanic, not a Latino, and one cannot substitute Latino in the phrase the Hispanic influence on native Mexican cultures without garbling the meaning. In practice, however, this distinction is of little significance when referring to residents of the United States, most of whom are of Latin American origin and can theoretically be called by either word. "

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Hispanic

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ORIGINAL: cjan

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Holder told hundreds of Justice Department employees gathered for the event that they have a special responsibility to advance racial understanding. Even when people mix at the workplace or afterwork social events, Holder argued, many Americans in their free time are still segregated inside what he called "race-protected cocoons." "Saturdays and Sundays, America in the year 2009 does not in some ways differ significantly from the country that existed almost 50 years ago. This is truly sad," said Holder.

I don't basically  disagree with what Holder said in the quote above from the article that the OP linked to. I don't see how any honest, thoughtful person could.

I do, however, think that things are slowly changing. Integration in schools and housing and employment can and has been legislated, but attitudes and hearts and minds change more slowly. I do see more mixed race couples ( and few bat an eye at them ), and more racial and ethnic mixing at various social and private gatherings than in the past.

Traveling to countries and cultures that don't share America's history of racism and social injustice is an eye opener. It's a completely different atmoshere in a society where the color of someone's skin is irrelevant. I believe that , in America, progress is being made in this regard. As Martin Luther King Jr. said, " The arc of history is long, but it bends toward justice".

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ORIGINAL: corysub
It is getting very difficult to be patient with this administration....very!

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It is getting very difficult to be patient with this administration....very!

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ORIGINAL: MasterShake69

  a slightly different topic.  Don't you find it funny that Hispanics which are descendants of Native-Americans want to speak there language in the united states.  A language (spanish)of the people who initially conquered them ;)

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ORIGINAL: lronitulstahp

Did i hit a nerve? You're correct that Hispanic isn't a race, but Latinos aren't Caucasians....they are a mix of races, largely descendants of Native-Americans  that mixed often  with white, and commonly African Americans.
Es Verdad....lo siento.
edited to add....if you read the link i included...it was including Blacks and Asians....i wan't trying to mislead or bullshit anyone.

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

A U.S. citizen or resident of Latin-American or Spanish descent.
Usage Note: Though often used interchangeably in American English, Hispanic and Latino are not identical terms, and in certain contexts the choice between them can be significant. Hispanic, from the Latin word for "Spain," has the broader reference, potentially encompassing all Spanish-speaking peoples in both hemispheres and emphasizing the common denominator of language among communities that sometimes have little else in common. Latino—which in Spanish means "Latin" but which as an English word is probably a shortening of the Spanish word latinoamericano—refers more exclusively to persons or communities of Latin American origin. Of the two, only Hispanic can be used in referring to Spain and its history and culture; a native of Spain residing in the United States is a Hispanic, not a Latino, and one cannot substitute Latino in the phrase the Hispanic influence on native Mexican cultures without garbling the meaning. In practice, however, this distinction is of little significance when referring to residents of the United States, most of whom are of Latin American origin and can theoretically be called by either word. "

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Hispanic

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I am so tired of Americans who keep beating on their own country.

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UPGS:Many Black-Americans save for Lousiana and tiny enclaves within places like Chicago, Milwaukee, Georgia and various other places, tend to be Protestant or newly converted to Islam (some are second generation N.O.I. religious members though - which is a neo-Islamic sect akin to the neo-Christianity of Mormonism) and are anti-Catholic. They inherit this perspective to the world that seeks purity. Thus their anti-Catholic inclinations due to what they view Pagan adaptaions that have diluted purity. Americans love purity in religion and purity in race. But go to Brazil and purity of sex or gender is questionable in the transsexual - who may be Morena or Mulatta and wear a Catholic crucifix around her/his neck, and practice Candomble (spelling?) and Afro-Brazilian religion (similar to Vodoo and Santeria). Her politics may be from one of the 4 or 5 major parties or one of the several more minor political parties (in contrast to the two party system of the U.S.)

I say all this because for the Black-American to have that "real" racial talk he or she wishes - likewise the White-American - may at some point require coming to terms with Mulattos as Mulattos and not "Black" people and coming to view drums, salsa, and Vodoo and Santeria as something that may require appreciation in some form. Can a Black Baptist or Black Muslim in the U.S. do that? Many Black-Americans have Yoruba (spelling?) ancestors and not just Fulani (mainly Islamic). Can White-Americans come to terms with a Black woman or a Puerto Rican Mulatta swaying her hips to rapped drum beats as being something on par with Marylan Monroe puckering her lips for a kiss? 

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What counties have you visited where there is no racisim, ethnic segregation, or religious discrimination...Germany and the Turkish minority?....France and the North African muslims, the U.K. and their Indian ghetto's...nor Northern Ireland with deep hatreds between the protestants and catholics?
What country have you been in where a "minority" has been elected President or Prime Minister?

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

I run with a great crowd. We speak our minds.

I try never to say something in front of whites that I wouldn't feel comfortable saying in front of others.  It makes life fairly easy to lead and removes the feeling of hypocrisy.

We are a polarized nation. Until we start making the same public education that is available to upper class whites available to all then I'm in support of some sort of  "affirmative action."

Whites have had it their way in this country since it's inception....Everything that any other ethnicity has achieved they have, for the most part, had to fight and die for.

Correct but what is 'white' or ethnic ? The Germans, Irish, Italians etc. had to blend, learn, work to survive as well. The Irish were among the most marginalized of all European 'ethnics' yet came out strong and without any special help.

Not talking about anywhere else.

The Irish were not given shit when they arrived. They had to fight and die. However, it is difficult to look at someone and say with complete confidence that they are Irish.  They didn't have to learn to blend...They simply blended.  They lost the accent and voila! They got here on the fucking Mayflower! All Europeans found it easy enough in this land. Those who have had it tough were the ones that could not simply blend in to the fabric of this nation.