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RE: Something came across my mind and path - 1/22/2006 2:22:47 PM   
KnightofMists


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Eir

I have said this befor if it's YOUR will to have his mark then it's your will but none should be marked without wanting to


It's not her will... IT's MINE! She chose to consent! to it!

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RE: Something came across my mind and path - 1/22/2006 3:23:50 PM   
Petruchio


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Status: offline 		Knight's reply about the original post is technically correct. As a writer, I tend to read 'between the lines' and realized that Eir had intended more than she had explicitly stated, so it wasn't a matter of veracity. In my early response, I even mentioned that Eir seems to have implied a second (subtextual) question that hadn't yet been addressed.

Remember that as facile in English as Eir is, it's not her first language. (And knowing Europeans, possibly not even her 2nd or 3rd, although that's merely speculative.)

That said, Knight well summed up the applicable 'rules'.

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RE: Something came across my mind and path - 1/22/2006 3:28:10 PM   
Eir


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Status: offline 		Acutally Icelandic is my first, danish my second, german my third and english the fourth :)

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RE: Something came across my mind and path - 1/22/2006 3:31:54 PM   
Eir


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Status: offline 		she concented to it but would you have done it anyways if she had refused? Perhaps you would have but you must concider the fact that she is human being and if she haddn't wanted something that would last forever on her, if there had been the slightest fear of that she wouldn't want to be yours she might not have concented to it.
I am glad for your sake that you have such a good sub for you and I wish you all the best

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RE: Something came across my mind and path - 1/22/2006 3:34:19 PM   
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Acutally Icelandic is my first, danish my second, german my third and english the fourth :)


How many languages do you know?

(BTW, for those who've never visited, Iceland is a starkly beautiful country. It's really amazing.)

In any case, you raised an intriguing question, and the controversy is a good indicator of how it affects people.

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RE: Something came across my mind and path - 1/22/2006 3:37:35 PM   
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Hey... To each his/her own -- but me, personally, I could NEVER do this. Hell, I don't even like tattoos on women?

To me, a woman's body is the most friggin AMAZING thing on the planet (way to go, God!!! ), so I prefer mine to stay as beautiful as they were the day I met them.




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RE: Something came across my mind and path - 1/22/2006 3:38:45 PM   
Eir


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Status: offline 		Icelandic, german (worked in austria for a while), danish (studied in school for 6 years), english (studied for 4 years), a little italian, a little bit of norweigan and svenska ;)

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RE: Something came across my mind and path - 1/22/2006 4:24:13 PM   
KnightofMists


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Eir

she concented to it but would you have done it anyways if she had refused? Perhaps you would have but you must concider the fact that she is human being and if she haddn't wanted something that would last forever on her, if there had been the slightest fear of that she wouldn't want to be yours she might not have concented to it.
I am glad for your sake that you have such a good sub for you and I wish you all the best


No - if she would not consented.. I wouldn't of done.. it

... But the relationship would of ended right then and there!


This is my slaves 2nd Prime Directive!

the slave has the responsibility to make the decision of consent to the will of the Master. This consent is absolute and a total availability to the Master's Free Will. With the choice of consent the slave has the responsibility to obey the Master’s will. To disobey their will is to remove consent - to remove consent is to remove ownership of the slave from the Master.

as a note this is my slaves 1st Prime Directive

the slave has the responsibility to ensure their Well-Being to the best of their ability. If the slave is of the opinion that their Well-Being is at risk, they must advise the Master as quickly as possible.

In essence... the person is always responsible for their personal Well-Being and to deny me consent is only going to be excuseable if the issue is with regards to their well-being. If every I give an instruction that gives them the feeling of endangering their Well-Being... Well-being being emotional, mental and physical health. Then a very important discussion will occur. Of course, I don't every expect or intend to cause my slaves to require them to used Directive one against myself. But, I will protect my slaves... EVEN against myself!


as a note.. she is not a sub.. she is a slave... ready to carry out my will whatever it might be. I have the authority she will obey! With or without the priveledge of me shareing my reasons to her. I provide clarification to my slave of what my will is... but i do not justify my reasons to them. I do however seek there opinions and thoughts on alot of things... different perspectives does increase ones ability of making the best possible of decisions at any given moment.

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RE: Something came across my mind and path - 1/26/2006 4:07:42 AM   
Eir


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