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RE: tipping - 2/25/2009 9:10:49 PM   
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Yeah I tend to frown upon Surprise Inside Meals.

I like those who serve me to be happy just makes for betterness all around

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RE: tipping - 2/25/2009 9:13:57 PM   
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Yeah I tend to from upon Surprise Inside Meals.

Say what?  not sure what you mean here...


I like those who serve me to be happy just makes for betterness all around

Sure, you treat them well they treat you well.  Never piss off the people who prepare your food.  I have heard many a horror story of what cooks and servers will do to the food of obnoxious customers.

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RE: tipping - 2/25/2009 9:14:51 PM   
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I can only assume you have not worked both. There are many differences one of which is ease of Transfer. Wrapping a Whopper (Which I have done) and Setting a King Size Fry are less time and ability consuming than plating a Half Rack of Ribs and Cupping a side order of Slaw and the packaging items that require some symbalance of order to maintian plated until they get home.

I am not saying you have to tip I am just saying that in most cases the person serving you To-Go order has done more than most give them credit for.

I tip because I appreciate the service and yes I see what the to-go staff does as service.

To Each Their own.

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RE: tipping - 2/25/2009 9:20:05 PM   
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Vendaval,

I was refering to all ths things you mentioned in the bottom of your reply we called them Surprise Inside Meals when someone was a Douche Bag and got lippy. The Movie Waiting? NOT EVEN CLOSE to what can really happen in a restraunt.

You would be surprized the things that can be deep fried and remain just edible.

Seriously folks it is common practice in many restraunts to plate food special for mean customer. Ever wanna find out how bad it can be Say the following the next time you go out to eat.

"I asked for ________ and you brough me ________ How hard is your job you that you can screw that up, I pay your salary and I expect service for it."

This TYPE of comments will get you a WONDEFUL meal. Trust me, Oh and Send your burger back more than once and see how it is treated.

Just trying to help here guys. There is a reason I am very nice to those who serve me because I once served others.

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RE: tipping - 2/25/2009 9:21:22 PM   
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Do you tip at the drivethru at McDonalds?


The person working the Drive Thru at McDonalds is also making more than $2.13 and hour.  Which is what the person filling your To-Go order at a restaurant is making.  The min wage for tipped employees has not been raised since the 70's, even though the regular min wage has increased.

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RE: tipping - 2/25/2009 9:24:42 PM   
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OK, thanks for clearing that up.  On the rare occasions when I have had to send food back because it was over-cooked to brickets or undercooked and still wiggling I remain polite and pleasant. 

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RE: tipping - 2/25/2009 9:32:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah

I can only assume you have not worked both. There are many differences one of which is ease of Transfer. Wrapping a Whopper (Which I have done) and Setting a King Size Fry are less time and ability consuming than plating a Half Rack of Ribs and Cupping a side order of Slaw and the packaging items that require some symbalance of order to maintian plated until they get home.

I am not saying you have to tip I am just saying that in most cases the person serving you To-Go order has done more than most give them credit for.

I tip because I appreciate the service and yes I see what the to-go staff does as service.

To Each Their own.


I appreciate your responses... I wasn't trying to trip you up just understand the differences. I can see the problem if your job depends on tips but "to go" orders take up time without reward. The problem as I see it is often you are just paying a cashier that is not paid in tips... or a manager gets your order from the back. I guess I could ask however.

But even then the time spent getting my order is a far cry from waiting at my table.

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RE: tipping - 2/25/2009 9:45:22 PM   
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greetings

I know when you go out  (dining in ) to eat, 15 % of the cost goes for the tip.
what about if you order to go, do you still need to tip, if so , what percent?
when every dollar matters these days, I felt really bad when my bowl of soup was $5.00 to go, and i only left a few cent as the tip.
thanks for any feedback.


i work at a restaurant thats national in size.  the servers make 3.50 an hour.  the to go makes 4.  minimum wage in my state is 7.  they take your order on the phone, make sure its correct, add anything that they may believe you need such as flatware or wet naps, gather your order together and bring it to your car when you pull up.  while they may not be running back and forth to your table, they do provide a service.  if you dont feel you should tip, go to mcdonalds.  they all make minimum or better there.

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RE: tipping - 2/25/2009 10:01:30 PM   
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quote:

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greetings

I know when you go out  (dining in ) to eat, 15 % of the cost goes for the tip.
what about if you order to go, do you still need to tip, if so , what percent?
when every dollar matters these days, I felt really bad when my bowl of soup was $5.00 to go, and i only left a few cent as the tip.
thanks for any feedback.


i work at a restaurant thats national in size.  the servers make 3.50 an hour.  the to go makes 4.  minimum wage in my state is 7.  they take your order on the phone, make sure its correct, add anything that they may believe you need such as flatware or wet naps, gather your order together and bring it to your car when you pull up.  while they may not be running back and forth to your table, they do provide a service.  if you dont feel you should tip, go to mcdonalds.  they all make minimum or better there.


I'll agree that a tip is appropriate if someone delivers either to the house or car...but if I have to go in to the counter and pick it up that’s different...But…a gratuity may still be given...especially after what I have seen written above. But not 15 to 20 percent...Its still not the same service delivered at tableside.

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RE: tipping - 2/25/2009 10:06:12 PM   
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oh i agree, Butch.  i dont know about the rest of the chains, but, at mine, the servers have to rotate the "honor" because no one will do it full time. a little something, even if its just 2 bucks, would be nice since they are often on that shift for four hours. and, according to the laws of the state, they sometimes cant even claim up to minimum because, as in ohio, if they make at least 30 dollars in tips a month, they arent entitled to the difference.

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RE: tipping - 2/25/2009 10:13:49 PM   
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My tipping depends first on the type of establishment (Is it primarily pickup/drivethru and delivery, like McDonalds or a non-eat-in pizza place? If so, then I don't tip. In fact, I make sure to write the exact amount of the bill on my receipt if I use a credit card), second on WHO is being tipped (this is easy to tell, usually. If it's a to-go order from a sit-in, such as Denny's, all to-go tips usually go to the hostess... who is making minimum wage (non-tip based), but if it's clearly a server, I'll do between 5%-10% depending on the complexity of the order), and third on quality of service and how difficult my group was (I don't give a DAMN if you have ten tables to yourself, if I have to flag you down twice or more to just get a drink refilled, or you don't ever return to actually take our order within the first 40 minutes I refuse to tip more than 10%, and that's ONLY if you're in a situation of over-work and aren't clearly giving preference to other customers/diners, which is how it usually happens).

I'll usually give around 15% or less for average or worse service in a sit-down restaurant. I typically will give less the pricier the bill (and unless I have no choice (part of a huge party) I won't tip more than $20), then again I usually don't go places that cost more than $10 a plate per person (and even $10 is a rare splurge). For excellent service I'll tip around 20%, but again it depends on the price of the bill.

For when I receive delivery, as long as it's within the time given when I order it I'll tip 20% flat rate. If it's late by more than 5 minutes, 10%. By more than 10 minutes 5%. By any more than 15 minutes and I don't tip, period. If a driver calls me ahead of time to let me know he'll be later than estimated I'll tip 10% (even it it's 10 or more minutes late).

For take-out I don't tip unless it's clearly going to a server (making tip-wage), and even then only 5% max.

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RE: tipping - 2/25/2009 10:43:18 PM   
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Order water instead of a drink .   Use the savings as the tip.   If you need to fill your diet coke fix then bring a can in the car and drink some before going  in.  Once you leave, finish the rest of the diet coke that is in your car cup holder. 

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greetings

I know when you go out  (dining in ) to eat, 15 % of the cost goes for the tip.
what about if you order to go, do you still need to tip, if so , what percent?
when every dollar matters these days, I felt really bad when my bowl of soup was $5.00 to go, and i only left a few cent as the tip.
thanks for any feedback.

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RE: tipping - 2/25/2009 11:26:08 PM   
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I've never quite understood the logic of a set percentage for tips, but I guess for a sit down meal I inadvertently leave 10 to 25 percent. I base tips on performance and size of the party (pain in the ass factor), more than on the bill total. Bad service equals no tip, plain and simple, good to great service equals a better tip...that's the point of it all, at least to me. Carry-out I really don't have a point of reference, other than a pizza being delivered, I can't ever recall an instance where I utilized what I would call carry out. Perhaps a bucket of chicken once a decade or fast food maybe once a year (semi-emergency), but I don't see a tip justified for either. For the occasional pizza I round the bill up, but it's usually something like $2 to $3...after all, the guy (person) only has to drive 3 blocks to get to our house.

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RE: tipping - 2/25/2009 11:37:51 PM   
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I usually round up by a few dollars for any delivery order.  And my routine tip is about 20% at most places.  At a cafe' or bar I usually leave $1 per drink.

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RE: tipping - 2/25/2009 11:38:50 PM   
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I'll tip when I pick up food, usually  just a couple of bucks.  There's a Claim Jumper I used to pass by on my way home from work (one of my favorite restaurants) and once a week I'd bring home dinner-to-go from there.  I got to know the folks who handled the to go orders a bit - very nice people.  They would recognize my voice on the phone and already know what I wanted.  More than once, they sent me home with a free dessert (a "slice" of cake from Claim Jumper served me, my husband and my inlaws for two sittings).  So yep, I tipped them very well!!

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RE: tipping - 2/25/2009 11:41:26 PM   
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"Claim Jumper" sounds like a Western style steak house.  Is that a good description?

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RE: tipping - 2/26/2009 1:25:42 AM   
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I've always been a generous tipper, but I'm tipping a lot more these days because so many people in the service sector are getting hit so hard by the depression. Some of these people are just getting slaughtered by this. I had some personal business over in Hollywood today, and I timed it so that I'd get over to the Sunset Strip around lunchtime. I wanted to eat at the Rainbow one more time before flying home tomorrow. I walked in there at 12:30 in the afternoon, and the place was empty - I mean, literally empty. I was the only customer in the place! One of the most legendary eating spots on the whole Strip, and it was completely deserted at 12:30 in the afternoon. Amazing. Just me and the staff. I felt so sorry for the waitress; she was a great kid, terrific personality, friendly as hell (like everyone else out here; it's a tough place to be a misanthrope), helpful, funnier than a barrel full of monkeys. All I ordered was a hamburger, and if it disappointed her, she didn't show it. I paid 6 bucks for the burger, and left a 5 dollar tip. I wasn't thinking at all in terms of percentages; as far as I was concerned, I got 5 dollars worth of service from that kid. And honest to god, I swear that was the best hamburger I've ever eaten in my life. I don't know how anyone gets a hamburger to taste that good, but that was one meal I was very happy with.  It wasn't her fault I didn't order order calamari and shrimp scampi; she earned every penny of it and I was glad to help her out.

Same thing with my hotel here in Santa Monica. I'm checking out tomorrow morning, and I'm leaving at least 40 bucks for the cleaners. It's a Mexican family, very nice, friendly people, and they've worked hard to make my stay as pleasant and as comfortable as possible. They work at least 6 days a week, and in fact I think at least one of them is here every single day of the week, and I think 40 or 50 bucks for a 7-day stay is fair. I stayed here earlier this month for 9 days, and left 50. I know that on one hand I need to be watching my money more closely during this depression, but at the same time, I think it's times like these where we have to pull together and help each other out a little more than usual. I'm very fortunate in that I can afford to share a little more with people who haven't been as fortunate as I, and i'm glad to be able to do it. An extra 2 or 3 bucks here and there is nothing but pocket change to me, but to some young kid with 2 kids of her own or whatever, who's seen her tips drop 40 or 50 % in the last few months, 2 or 3 extra bucks can make a real difference. It's an easy way to help out, and i just think it's what we all need to be doing right now if we can afford it.


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RE: tipping - 2/26/2009 5:22:18 AM   
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I tip what I am capable of at the time and it always depends on service. 

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RE: tipping - 2/26/2009 6:12:50 AM   
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Here is the Miss Manners board for etiquette in regards to carry out tipping:
http://boards.live.com/Lifestyleboards/thread.aspx?threadid=971679


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RE: tipping - 2/26/2009 6:22:17 AM   
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Miss V,

Yes, they feature comfort foods.  Their hallmark, imo, are the gigantic platters of food, holding sufficient supply for several subsequent meals, setting the standard for excess equaled only by the Hawaiian restaurants popping up everywhere.  I haven't been there in a number of years mostly due to that coupled with my own lack of willpower against giant piles of food. 

To the OP, I generally tip at 20% to done in and 0% for to go orders.  After reading this I will endeavour to leave at least a few bucks to go next time.  I hadn't considered that the staff is distracted from tipping customers. 

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