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RE: A Question for liberals... - 3/1/2009 7:44:54 PM

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Has he measured up to your expectations and, if so, could you share with us what you see that he has done to improve your life or the country that pleases you.

So far for me Obama is the most frightening president I have seen: Trillions deficit spending is scary, US Congress leadership and recent practice how laws are passed is scary, bailouts, Ms. Clinton begging Chinese for money are scary etc....

Really?

So you didn't find Bush taking the federal debt from under $5 trillion to over $11 trillion scary?

You didn't find the $700 billion bank bailout Bush pushed through scary?

You didn't find the fact we have been importing a record trade deficit from China throughout the Bush administration which labeled the country (and rightfully so) a major violator of human rights scary?

Don`t bother with those crushing facts,RML.

Obama`s critics don`t.

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RE: A Question for liberals... - 3/1/2009 7:47:24 PM

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Have you been living in a cocoon and somehow missed all the reports of Dubya's cocaine use? Not to mention he had to be "born again" because apparently he couldn't control his drinking.

We all know that addicts and alcoholics can never redeem themselves. They can't ever hope to be anything better than a fry-cook. How dare GWB spread this lie that people with addiction issues can overcome their problems. Frankly, I think anyone that is struggling with alcohol or drug addiction should just stick a pistol in their mouth.

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RE: A Question for liberals... - 3/1/2009 7:48:11 PM

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First of all, I find it reprehensible that you bring up the fact that Obama admitted that he experimented with cocaine as an argument for mistrust. Though I loathed and still loath Bush the Younger, I never stooped so low as to bring up his former drinking problems as a reason he was an unfit president. To try to tie the responsibilities and power of the presidency to a youthful experimentation with marijuana and cocaine is beneath you.

       Don't get your panties in a bunch, Spinner. It's fair game. Way to try the "attack the messenger" distraction, though. My reference was to power as a drug. It certainly went to George's head, so maybe you should have been a bit more vocal about his history.

      I don't see you answering any questions though. Who said anything about young? I asked about being faced with life and death decisions, perhaps something along the lines of JFK commanding a little boat of men who depended on him for their lives.



       O59, I'm well past having any expectation that you might have a rational answer to a direct question. Have a nice night.

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RE: A Question for liberals... - 3/1/2009 7:49:04 PM

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If you don't get the differences between legislative and executive power, RML, you are as qualified to answer the questions as our other contestants so far.

Yes, a typical response from you TH.

You avoid answering what you know you cannot defend and instead prefer to imply that anyone who disagrees with you just doesn't measure up to your enormous intellect, or "just doesn't get it" as you so often like to say.

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RE: A Question for liberals... - 3/1/2009 7:56:56 PM

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Have you been living in a cocoon and somehow missed all the reports of Dubya's cocaine use? Not to mention he had to be "born again" because apparently he couldn't control his drinking.

We all know that addicts and alcoholics can never redeem themselves. They can't ever hope to be anything better than a fry-cook. How dare GWB spread this lie that people with addiction issues can overcome their problems. Frankly, I think anyone that is struggling with alcohol or drug addiction should just stick a pistol in their mouth.

And you know very well that was not the point I was making.

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RE: A Question for liberals... - 3/1/2009 7:57:44 PM

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So is your point that only those who have been Governer should be elected president.

No. And in the interest of not trying to put words in my mouth, you should have made that a question, instead of a statement. I said executive office. Being the guy in charge of something. Being the guy in charge when bad things happen. Lincoln was a Captain in the militia. I would count something similar on Obama's resume, but it isn't there.

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RE: A Question for liberals... - 3/1/2009 8:02:30 PM

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If you don't get the differences between legislative and executive power, RML, you are as qualified to answer the questions as our other contestants so far.

Yes, a typical response from you TH.

You avoid answering what you know you cannot defend and instead prefer to imply that anyone who disagrees with you just doesn't measure up to your enormous intellect, or "just doesn't get it" as you so often like to say.

No, RML, you just don't get it. This is poli-sci 101 shit. It would have been high-school civics 20 years ago, but somebody decided to let the teachers unions be in charge of our schools.

Really. I'm not here to teach you basic facts.

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RE: A Question for liberals... - 3/1/2009 8:07:18 PM

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No. And in the interest of not trying to put words in my mouth, you should have made that a question, instead of a statement. I said executive office. Being the guy in charge of something. Being the guy in charge when bad things happen. Lincoln was a Captain in the militia. I would count something similar on Obama's resume, but it isn't there. ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

If you'll check the sentence, I did phrase it as a question. I hit the wrong key and typed a period instead of a question mark. Sorry if that caused confusion.

So basically, is what you're now saying is that if Obama had been a captain in the armed forces...or Texas national guard for an equal amount of time that Lincoln served, your fears would be at least somewhat abated?

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RE: A Question for liberals... - 3/1/2009 8:08:02 PM

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It would have been high-school civics 20 years ago, but somebody decided to let the teachers unions be in charge of our schools.

As the son of a teacher who works himself in the education field, my understanding is that state officials--not teachers, and certainly not their unions--set curricula.

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RE: A Question for liberals... - 3/1/2009 8:08:42 PM

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i think lee atwater has been dead for like 20 years.

You should have said Karl rove......lol

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Cory, is your world really split into two, liberals on one side, conservatives on the other? Where did you get that idea from, Lee Atwater?

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RE: A Question for liberals... - 3/1/2009 8:09:56 PM

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We all know that addicts and alcoholics can never redeem themselves. They can't ever hope to be anything better than a fry-cook. How dare GWB spread this lie that people with addiction issues can overcome their problems. Frankly, I think anyone that is struggling with alcohol or drug addiction should just stick a pistol in their mouth.

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RE: A Question for liberals... - 3/1/2009 8:12:18 PM

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Why? Rove got everything he knows from Atwater. Atwater was the guru for the Republican party: Karl was just a student. Lol

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RE: A Question for liberals... - 3/1/2009 8:13:42 PM

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No, RML, you just don't get it. This is poli-sci 101 shit. It would have been high-school civics 20 years ago, but somebody decided to let the teachers unions be in charge of our schools.

Really. I'm not here to teach you basic facts.

It must be high school civics because you are stooping to high school foolishness.

Debate me on the issues at hand, not what you think "I get or don't get".

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RE: A Question for liberals... - 3/1/2009 8:19:45 PM

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So basically, is what you're now saying is that if Obama had been a captain in the armed forces...or Texas national guard for an equal amount of time that Lincoln served, your fears would be at least somewhat abated?

Very much so, Spinner. I'd even let the bar go a bit lower. A lieutenant. A small business owner. A CEO. The person in charge of something bigger than his own life, no matter how big his life might have become during the campaign. He has never worn ANY mantle of responsibilty, never carried the worry that if he had done something wrong, people were going to lose their jobs or maybe even die. We just gave him the biggest one on the planet.

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RE: A Question for liberals... - 3/1/2009 8:22:39 PM

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We just gave him the biggest one on the planet.

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RE: A Question for liberals... - 3/1/2009 8:24:14 PM

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Debate me on the issues at hand, not what you think "I get or don't get".

Cool. The issue at hand is that President Obama came to this job with a complete lack of any executive experience. What are your thoughts on how concerned we should be about this?

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RE: A Question for liberals... - 3/1/2009 8:28:38 PM

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It looks like in a year and a half Obama will spend more then it took bush to spend in 8 years ;)
Talk about inheriting problems. Hes giving the next president a huge problem to inherit ;) Every president has inherited problems from the previous one some even far more difficut then Obama. But nobody has whined as much as obama has about inheriting his problems. Reagan had the bad economy from carter. clinton had it from Bush sr. George W had it from clinton. And Obama had it from George W.
Thats because the economy works ina cycle.

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So far for me Obama is the most frightening president I have seen:

It is amazing. Your parents have got to get you on the teli. I have never seen someone so young...What?..Why you couldn't be over a couple of months old...gitchygoooo!

You are just darling, cute as a fuckin' button! How did you learn to type? Truly gifted! I must say you have one of the most extensive vocabularies I have ever witnessed for one so young. Want some ice cream?...Open the hanger cuz here it comes....Zoooooooooom!!!!

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RE: A Question for liberals... - 3/1/2009 8:33:21 PM

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And what "executive experience" did your guy McCain have?

Zero.

You we`re saying?

When the two were matched,your guy lost.

Get over it.The process you`re going through now isn`t healthy.

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RE: A Question for liberals... - 3/1/2009 8:36:01 PM

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i like how unproven rumors about Bush are considered facts with Obama supporters. Can the same standards be held to Mr. Obama? If so then Mr. Obama is not even a US citizen ;)

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How about experienced with ANYTHING, Spinner? With the exception of his campaign, which was all about him, what has he ever run?

I am so tired of listening to this inane argument that somehow suggests a U.S. Senator is not qualified to be President because he did not "run" anything.

What exactly does that mean anyway? The lame executive experience argument that we've heard so much about?

In case it has escaped your attention, we have a legislative body that is an equal branch of government, that passes the laws we all live by. Somehow, that seems to qualify as "running things" for me.

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Here's an unsettling thought. We know from his writings that he liked cocaine. Power is the greatest drug on the planet, and a man who has never had any, is suddenly mainlining on all of it. What experience does he have in restraining that? What will it do to him, as the weeks turn into months and years in that office?

Spin that.

No shit?

He liked cocaine?

Have you been living in a cocoon and somehow missed all the reports of Dubya's cocaine use? Not to mention he had to be "born again" because apparently he couldn't control his drinking.

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RE: A Question for liberals... - 3/1/2009 8:42:14 PM

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what was Obamas reason for picking Biden as his VP? It was the same reason why Bush picked Cheney. Unlike Bush and Obama, Mr. McCain doesn’t need someone to hold his hand.

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And what "executive experience" did your guy McCain have?

Zero.

You we`re saying?

When the two were matched,your guy lost.

Get over it.The process you`re going through now isn`t healthy.